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There are no absolutes …

Hate to break it to ya Mr. Stockholder, I have yet to see the stocks increase after any Apple Keynote no matter how awesome the product is.

Yeah … AAPL is often volatile in the days immediately following product announcements … but it has actually risen on occasion.

For example, the introduction of the iPhone at Macworld Expo in 2007 resulted in a jump of over 8 percent.

Finally, unless you're day trading, it hardly matters.
 
A Google shower would make you sign in to Google+, track how many times per day you shower, then sell it to advertisers.

A Facebook shower would have a camera watch you so you can share it with your friends

An Apple shower would only work with an obscure showerhead that uses a non-standard connection, would be no longer supported after 5 years, and would force you to buy a new home to upgrade.

A Linux shower would require that you first spend 40 years becoming a master plumber, carpenter, engineer, and electrician, renovate your entire house from the ground up to install it, and would not be compatible with your utility company's water.
 
This is not something that is going to make me buy the iPhone 6.

There are hundreds of features I'd like to see added top the iPhone before this.
 
So now when I walk into a dark room I have to get the iPhone. Unlock the phone's screen find the light switch app and launch it then scroll down to the "Bedroom #2 room lights" switch then tap a radio button. Cool. That is so much better can quicker than flipping the wall mounted light switch and more "cool" then an IR motion detection light switch.

A better interface would be location based. The controller would see that some one is about to enter the room. It would know the right time to flip the switch and then turn them off when no longer needed. It might also come with an open microphone and allow Siri to adjust the room temperature or lights.

What I'm saying is that the test for this system is if the user has to do less or more to control the equipment. So far in most cases the user has to do MORE which in my opinion is a design failure. Using this criteria it is hard to beat a wall switch


No. the switches will still have switches. Like all current home automation solutions. Rolls eyes.
 
A Google shower would make you sign in to Google+, track how many times per day you shower, then sell it to advertisers.

A Facebook shower would have a camera watch you so you can share it with your friends

An Apple shower would only work with an obscure showerhead that uses a non-standard connection, would be no longer supported after 5 years, and would force you to buy a new home to upgrade.

A Linux shower would require that you first spend 40 years becoming a master plumber, carpenter, engineer, and electrician, renovate your entire house from the ground up to install it, and would not be compatible with your utility company's water.

Excellent. ;)
 
Hate to break it to ya Mr. Stockholder, I have yet to see the stocks increase after any Apple Keynote no matter how awesome the product is.

And yet they'll rise the moment Google even mentions some half-baked idea that will never even see the light of day.

Which just goes to show you how little the stock market means and how worthless it truly is.
 
This is not something that is going to make me buy the iPhone 6.

There are hundreds of features I'd like to see added top the iPhone before this.

Good job this has nothing to do with the iPhone 6 directly then does it. Hundreds... Really... slowly shakes heads. I'd certainly like to see maybe 5-6.
 
These are exactly the kind of technologies you'll never see on competing platforms. And this is why I'm all in on Apple adoption. The tight seamless integration between devices and services cannot be matched by anyone else.
 
And how exactly is an iPad gonna control the heating?.. download an app?.. nope.. a firm like nest has to build a piece of hardware that an app ( theirs or an Apple one on ios) can control.. it's the hardware that is key.. everything needs an extra control box somewhere...

Of course there is still need for dedicated hardware (that is obvious to anyone who actually bothers to rtfa, by the way). What Apple is doing is creating an environment, much like it did with iOS and the App Store. In a few years, dozens—if not hundreds—of companies will be selling hardware that can be controlled via iPod, iPhone, iPad and whatever iDevices Apple will be selling by then. The symbiosis will be the same as it is today with apps: Apple helps app vendors to sell more apps, and app vendors help Apple sell more iDevices. And that's a great strategy, IMHO.
 
Yeah … AAPL is often volatile in the days immediately following product announcements … but it has actually risen on occasion.

For example, the introduction of the iPhone at Macworld Expo in 2007 resulted in a jump of over 8 percent.

Finally, unless you're day trading, it hardly matters.

Exactly. Traders trade, investors invest. Traders think they are successful if they don't lose money, and they keep themselves convinced that they are beating the market by never comparing their results to investing. They'd be shocked if they did. A stock trader believing they have outsmarted the markets is like calling yourself a great driver because you haven't died in a car wreck.
 
I can see this being added to iOS 8 for a new class of 'smart' fixtures/appliances hitting the market (like the smart fridges that text you to buy more milk or the Phillips LED light bulbs), kinda like iCar runs on a limited set of in-car systems, but there's no way this will be a universal add-on for any random house with any set of appliances - Apple isn't in the DYI/bring-your-own market in any way.
 
You know that you cannot be wrong "1000%" Even Totally wrong 100% would be redundant.

As for the actual just of your comment please tell me one product Apple make that has 'failed again' - I am fairly sure every single product they have sold for the past 7 years have been runaway successes.

These aren't Apple products. They are third party products using an Apple service.

There are no end of Apple services that have been a dismal failure.
 
And then my house can be hacked! :eek:

They could *gulp* raise my temperature and run up my electric bill...or, or, or turn of the lights when I'm walking and I fall! ;)

Or you could be locked outside on a cold rainy night with an electric door lock and a dead iPhone battery, repeating "House open... House open... " :)
 
One thing I've been waiting to see is a less tying of home automation products to the cloud.

I have no desire to be telling Honeywell, Google or any second- or third-party companies (yes, including Apple) what's going on in my home:

• When I leave
• When I arrive
• What room I'm in
• Whether I'm awake or not
• What temperature I like
• What I'm watching on TV, or listening to on the radio
• ....

Some of the tying is really nuts. It's not needed technically, but it's sure as hell a big data grab (see also: Google acquires Nest).
 
The only thing that would make this a nonstarter for me is if I'd have to install 9 different manufacturer's apps to control something. I'd prefer one interface that Apple builds that can talk to all the certified products, preferably from a gesture on the lock screen.
 
Now, Apple going into 'Home automation' ?

Will there be any thing left to compete against ?

As i've always said, technology does have it's place, but doing something for a phone just to "make life easier" and make you more lazy then ever, the move is sure swaying in this direction..

In the future, i can see a world where we're all obese fat bastards.. It's already happening...

- Controlling your Apple TV via your tablet..
- Smart houses
- Flying drones. (terminator style)
 
Standard Protocol required

It would be great if Apple or Google could get a chip manufacture to make a chip for each device that would have a standard self describing protocol. So that when you got a new furnace it would come up and say I am a new furnace I have these parameters furnace coming on, furnace going off, high filter delta and service required. If the air conditioner could say to the hot water tank I going to blow some hot air can you use it. The refrigerator could determine outside temp and decide to blow hot air outside or inside. But first you need a standard protocol for each device.
 
Here's a new product category all the Wall Street weenies have been wanting.

Home automation is an INCREDIBLY niche area right now and will remain so for a while. Most people in America aren't worried nor can afford 200 for a thermostat or 50 for a light bulb.

Not for the masses.

But they can afford an iphone? Lol

Not ready for the masses until it's done in an Apple way, then the flood gates will open!
 
Well they do probably own a lot of the infrastructure that NEST was based on before the guy left so a continuation of it would seem natural.

There was the rumor that Apple wanted to build a car.

I'm thinking the "Apple Modular House" that shows up in a box and is put together with velcro and an Ikea like Wrench. Nice!
 
This feature will be great for emerging markets in India, China and Brazil...

They will be so impressed on their dollar a day salaries, and jump at the prospect to integrate and automate their hovels.
 
There are plenty of enthusiast. The problem right now though is the 'smart home' products are dispersed between multiple companies making different components. None of them talk together and require multiple apps to control.

The true full smart home solutions on the other hand are a 'niche' product because of the complexity involved with them and the lack of a trustworth store selling them.

YEP!!!! A standard like the USB or Wireless g/n/? Would be the shiznit! Then each company can make hardware and consumers can pick what ever they like.

I can see the trolling now.
Apple Fan: "My Apple Thermostat can raise and lower my heat remotely."
Droid Fan: "Oh, yeah? My Android Thermostat can do it from the moon."
Apple Fan: "Well you can't get to the moon, so there."
Samsung: "We need a phone on the moon."
 
These aren't Apple products. They are third party products using an Apple service.

There are no end of Apple services that have been a dismal failure.

Services perhaps. Not protocols. Airplay is used extensively. What else along these lines have failed? It's all very well saying "No End" but yet you have not cited one.
 
Hate to break it to ya Mr. Stockholder, I have yet to see the stocks increase after any Apple Keynote no matter how awesome the product is.

In the past there was often a pre-announcement bump in the week or two heading into the announcement, then the sell-off you're talking about.

In the investment world, it's called "buy the rumor, sell the news". It has been around longer than any of us.
 
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