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but the vast majority of people don't own iPhone or Apple products, so it makes sense to make any hardware work with the larger audience.

Currently in the US about 56% have smartphones and 25% iPhones. My guess is that the SmartPhone/iPhone market is exactly those people for home automation.
 
And then my house can be hacked! :eek:

They could *gulp* raise my temperature and run up my electric bill...or, or, or turn of the lights when I'm walking and I fall! ;)

OR... they could lower your temperature in the winter while you are gone so your pipes burst... OR make your lights flash on and off randomly, or when you don't want them to. Let's not pretend that alone wouldn't infuriate you.

And let's also not be so naive as to think this isn't merely a first step in smart home evolution. Automatic door locks, window locks, etc. are all around and will be integrated in as well over time. I remember a man who had automatic curtains in the 70's. The rest is coming... then will you be more concerned with security?
 
Not going to happen. This has already been done, but it never took off.
People don't have the money or infrastructure to implement anything like this.
 
really ?

Apple seem to want to try and close the doors and do it all themselves.

No closed system ever works long term.
Short term sure, but not long term

Apple will just keep their little safe corner and make money whilst the rest of the world carries on working.

Does eight years not count as long term enough for you? Apple still takes home the lion shares of the profit with iOS and it's just as closed as ever since day one. iPhones and iPads command a huge and ever growing influence in the enterprise market and there are also no signs pointing that iPhone 6 will not be a best seller with consumers yet again this fall.

I'd say their closed system has been working out wonderfully for almost an entire decade.
 
As I said above, the company called iHome sells a line of audio accessories, including speakers, headphones and clocks. You find them in stores like Target and Wal-Mart. Low-end stuff. No chance that Apple would want to use the name, even assuming they could.

Oh ok. I didn't see that. Thanks for clarifying.

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Not going to happen. This has already been done, but it never took off.
People don't have the money or infrastructure to implement anything like this.

Who has done this?
 
YEP!!!! A standard like the USB or Wireless g/n/? Would be the shiznit! Then each company can make hardware and consumers can pick what ever they like.

I can see the trolling now.
Apple Fan: "My Apple Thermostat can raise and lower my heat remotely."
Droid Fan: "Oh, yeah? My Android Thermostat can do it from the moon."
Apple Fan: "Well you can't get to the moon, so there."
Samsung: "We need a phone on the moon."

I sense a bit of sarcasm but am not very good at telling.

When I say standard, I mean a company makes 1 setup box and all hardware connects to that box.

Then that one box can use the inputs and outputs from all the sensors to create logic. E.g: Product from company X detects a movement and tell you, you then go ahead and command product from Company Y to do something in response.

Now if they were interconnected, talking in the same language and able to share their IO changes. You could then have all of that automated.

I very much doubt Apple will allow for that freedom but if they do start with something. The popularity and # of products will increase with 3rd party developers adding these features as part of it.
 
As long as their App will talk to all Z wave and products, I'll be interested. Some of the Z wave stuff is great but the Apps are poor. Apple stores sell Wemo but the devices don't work with all wiring ( require a neutral line to work), hence they are not useful for everyone - require Zeewave for home automation.
 
really ?

Apple seem to want to try and close the doors and do it all themselves.

No closed system ever works long term.
Short term sure, but not long term

Apple will just keep their little safe corner and make money whilst the rest of the world carries on working.

So Apple hasn't even announced this yet and you already know it's going to be a failure? Btw, I'd say making money (and becoming the most valuable company in the world) "working". ;)
 
Just not interested in being able to turn on my lights or adjust the thermostat, or fiddle with the furnace when I'm not home. I just don't see what this would accomplish.

I can. You leave home for the weekend, and forget to set back your thermostat. Alternately, you do remember to set it back, but would like your house to be comfortable when you get home. You have a home security system and want to be notified if it is set off and maybe have it send you pictures of what is happening at home at that moment. While you are away for a couple of weeks you read that the weather at home has turned very hot. You can set your irrigation system to run more often so the plants don't die. A smart lighting system should be smart enough that you can set it and forget it, but if the security system did go off, it might be nice to be able to turn on a bunch of lights at your house. Stuff like that, right off the top of my head.
 
but the vast majority of people don't own iPhone or Apple products, so it makes sense to make any hardware work with the larger audience.

Like how many people would own Mac's if Msoft acted like Apple do and not allow windows to run on a Mac.

I don't see Apple allowing OSX to run on a PC, as they know people would rather buy a PC and run OSX than would buy a Mac

"but the vast majority of people don't own iPhone or Apple products", and yet the vast majority of App developers choose iOS as their primary platform in which to deliver their software.

Same deal with hardware vendors: if Apple creates an environment under which new hardware can be connected through iDevices, which platform will hadware vendors choose as their primary? iOS or any other mobile OS on the planet?

iOS, hands down. That is their strategy, and I believe it will be quite successful.
 
I am trying to figure out what you are saying here, without success. Both the Nest and Honeywell smart thermostats are controlled by apps. This is a problem how, exactly?

Read what I am referring to.. the original poster dint want nest type devices.. just to be able to control everything with an iPad. How is that achieved without a nest type device... Sheesh...
 
Read what I am referring to.. the original poster dint want nest type devices.. just to be able to control everything with an iPad. How is that achieved without a nest type device... Sheesh...

I did read it. It seemed to me he is talking about whether Apple is better off buying a hardware company like Nest vs. developing software that allows other companies to create hardware that is controlled on iOS. I don't see your issue.
 
but the vast majority of people don't own iPhone or Apple products, so it makes sense to make any hardware work with the larger audience.

Like how many people would own Mac's if Msoft acted like Apple do and not allow windows to run on a Mac.

I don't see Apple allowing OSX to run on a PC, as they know people would rather buy a PC and run OSX than would buy a Mac

People buy Macs so they don't have to use Windows.
 
I did read it. It seemed to me he is talking about whether Apple is better off buying a hardware company like Nest vs. developing software that allows other companies to create hardware that is controlled on iOS. I don't see your issue.

You can lead a horse to water......
 
I’m not convinced. Apple has proven time and time again it’s not good in products requiring support from third parties. Look at Passbook, AirPrint, Firewire, Thunderbolt. Great ideas, but never the next big thing to conquer the market, mainly because of lack of support. Let’s hope iBeacons and CarPlay don’t join this list.

And yes, they also severely damaged their speaker market by switching from 30pins to lightning. Not exactly encouraging.

Also, don’t forget Apple is a hardware company, so this initiative would purely exist to boost iOS sales. Again, not exactly the next Nest.
 
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