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The possibilities with renovating 100 year old homes is pretty exciting to me. It used to require a total overhaul behind the walls and under the floors - now smart technology, an outlet, and minimal piping you can totally change a home in a weekend. After we first got married my wife and I lived in a house built in the 1920's - I don't think it was ever updated other than minimal electricity and (really bad) window AC units. It was miserable. The house, however, was beautiful. The possibility of controlling lights and *Air from my phone (with updated wall units in each room) is really cool. Add the ability to have a TV in any room there is an outlet (no cable wires required) and what else do you really need? Not to mention the fact that most of that could come with me when I leave. Who would have thought about light bulbs as an investment?
 
I hope Insteon jumps on board with this. The Insteon system has worked very reliably for me; but their app -- while it gets the job done -- could be so much better. I'd love to try an Apple-designed app with Siri integration to control my Insteon equipment.
 
Seems a bit late in my opinion.
Sure the masses don't have home automation systems yet, but the people that influence others do. I have a Z-Wave based system from Lowes called IRIS. Before that I had a Schlage/Trane Z-Wave system called Nexia. I have a lot of money into Z-Wave devices from door locks, door & windows sensors, a sprinkler system controller, water sensors, garage door controllers, and outdoor outlets.

Unless Apple is going to allow hub manufacturers to integrate and continue to run the whole system themselves, I just don't see Apple having success here.

It might be fine for someone who has a wifi thermostat, but I don't see much success beyond that.
 
In the past there was often a pre-announcement bump in the week or two heading into the announcement, then the sell-off you're talking about.

In the investment world, it's called "buy the rumor, sell the news". It has been around longer than any of us.

This is probably the single most meaningless statement ever passed off as investing wisdom, right after "what goes up must come down."
 
This is going to be an awesome selling feature in emerging markets.

Brazil, China, and India have all been clamoring for the chance to automate and integrate their hovels.
 
A Google shower would make you sign in to Google+, track how many times per day you shower, then sell it to advertisers.

A Facebook shower would have a camera watch you so you can share it with your friends

An Apple shower would only work with an obscure showerhead that uses a non-standard connection, would be no longer supported after 5 years, and would force you to buy a new home to upgrade.

A Linux shower would require that you first spend 40 years becoming a master plumber, carpenter, engineer, and electrician, renovate your entire house from the ground up to install it, and would not be compatible with your utility company's water.

LOL. So true :)
 
Don't forget that you'll have to link your fridge to a Google+ account.

Good lord...


Who needs a computer... Sit in front of your fridge all day, the you wouldn't need to walk anywhere,,, just open the door to get drinks... plus you'll have a large display too.

Double the fun.

We don't wanna go down the privacy/invasion here... Google already knows enough. Otherwise they'd be like "bulk data collection just like the NSA"

Scary thought.

But then again, people may not care by the time this happens.
 
Simpsons did it

So now when I walk into a dark room I have to get the iPhone. Unlock the phone's screen find the light switch app and launch it then scroll down to the "Bedroom #2 room lights" switch then tap a radio button. Cool. That is so much better can quicker than flipping the wall mounted light switch and more "cool" then an IR motion detection light switch.
No, that's what this unified "hub" and integration would do. What you are describing is the current issue many home auto-maters are facing. Everyone has their own 3rd party app that must be used rather than me simply asking siri to turn on my lights or using the control center that you drag up from the bottom of the screen(which your phone does not need to be unlocked to access). I would gladly replace my calculator button with a light-switch button.

A better interface would be location based. The controller would see that some one is about to enter the room. It would know the right time to flip the switch and then turn them off when no longer needed. It might also come with an open microphone and allow Siri to adjust the room temperature or lights.

This already exists in the proprietary Philips Hue app. I can customize a set of lights to turn on based on my location.

What I'm saying is that the test for this system is if the user has to do less or more to control the equipment. So far in most cases the user has to do MORE which in my opinion is a design failure. Using this criteria it is hard to beat a wall switch

I suppose its a matter of perspective and your personal definition of success and failure. Yes taking out my iPhone and starting an app to turn on a light would be irritating if I was standing right next to a switch. However turning on your porch light when you are outside drunk trying to find your keys / key hole or turning on and off your lights without getting out of bed are pretty cool advantages of home automation. Neither of those things are possible with conventional light switches unless you covered your walls in light switches. So i guess it's not necessarily a matter of doing things better than before, rather doing new things that were not possible with conventional hardware.

After some type of core integration like this, the only downside I see to Home automation is the price. They are definitely luxury purchases that are not economically rational, but the WOW/cool factor seems to be what mainly drives it for people.
 
In the past there was often a pre-announcement bump in the week or two heading into the announcement, then the sell-off you're talking about.

In the investment world, it's called "buy the rumor, sell the news". It has been around longer than any of us.

That's an interesting quote. Makes sense.
 
But who walks into a dark room and uses their apps to turn the lights on?

The rooms in my house controlled by IRIS still have switches on the wall.
I log into the hub to make rule changes, such as when this door opens between these hours, turn the lights on automatically.

Or when my keyfob leaves the house, turn off all of the smart outlets and arm the alarm.

The key to a smart home is not having to interact with it on a regular basis... if you have to, its not very smart. Is there room for improvement with the current systems out there? Of course.... but I don't really see Apple bringing a lot of value to this space...

But maybe I will be wowed. I can't say I have been super impressed with anything they've done the past few years... but, I feel like i've seen everything technology can do.... bumping up specs or changing a UI theme doesn't really get me excited anymore :)
 
Hate to break it to ya Mr. Stockholder, I have yet to see the stocks increase after any Apple Keynote no matter how awesome the product is.

That's odd, as a shareholder, I see their stock go up every year in the few months following a WWDC announcement, no matter the product.
 
Pass

Just not interested in being able to turn on my lights or adjust the thermostat, or fiddle with the furnace when I'm not home. I just don't see what this would accomplish.
 
Absolutely agree. MFI is a disaster. Apple seem to insist that it's a good idea because there were a lot of iPod-compatible speakers back in the early 00s and they maintained compatibility throughout several models.

Really, it was the stability of the 30-pin connector protocol which did that for them. Once the iPhone 3G came out, lots of them started breaking due to interference problems (or other internal spec changes, which made the dreaded "this accessory is not compatible with iPhone" message appear on your $400 speakers).

That really pissed me off. I had purchased a $350 Pioneer car deck that was MFi and after an iOS software update, I'd get that message. The phone would still play music (although it would only do it by playing the first song in the library forcing me to skip ahead to find a song I wanted), but wouldn't charge so I couldn't do both at the same time. No firmware update from Pioneer to fix it either.
Same thing happened with 2 speaker docks.
 
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Looking forward to the day when I can't use my toilet because some moron in a foreign country's datacenter forgot to renew the SSL certificate.
 
But who walks into a dark room and uses their apps to turn the lights on?

The rooms in my house controlled by IRIS still have switches on the wall.
I log into the hub to make rule changes, such as when this door opens between these hours, turn the lights on automatically.

Or when my keyfob leaves the house, turn off all of the smart outlets and arm the alarm.

The key to a smart home is not having to interact with it on a regular basis... if you have to, its not very smart. Is there room for improvement with the current systems out there? Of course.... but I don't really see Apple bringing a lot of value to this space...

But maybe I will be wowed. I can't say I have been super impressed with anything they've done the past few years... but, I feel like i've seen everything technology can do.... bumping up specs or changing a UI theme doesn't really get me excited anymore :)

Like yours, my lights come on automatically. Motion sensors control normally dark areas. My Nest thermostat knows whether I am home or not and adjust it self automatically. My door locks when I leave and unlocks when I return. All of this from existing iPhone apps.
 
Are you kidding me?

Just look at Apple and what it has been doing forever and that's exactly what you will see: through their entire line of i-products they HAVE made cars that only run on Apple gas, and people still massively buy such cars, with no sign of slowing down.

but the vast majority of people don't own iPhone or Apple products, so it makes sense to make any hardware work with the larger audience.

Like how many people would own Mac's if Msoft acted like Apple do and not allow windows to run on a Mac.

I don't see Apple allowing OSX to run on a PC, as they know people would rather buy a PC and run OSX than would buy a Mac
 
You know that you cannot be wrong "1000%" Even Totally wrong 100% would be redundant.

As for the actual just of your comment please tell me one product Apple make that has 'failed again' - I am fairly sure every single product they have sold for the past 7 years have been runaway successes.

really ?

Apple seem to want to try and close the doors and do it all themselves.

No closed system ever works long term.
Short term sure, but not long term

Apple will just keep their little safe corner and make money whilst the rest of the world carries on working.
 
imo there wont be an iwatch. Maybe new Apple TV Os or hardware. WWDC is not a event with big hardware expectations. If you expect big hardware announcements you better off selling youre shares right now.

There could be an iWatch depending on what it is and doss. It's possible that iOS 8 would leak it anyway and thus Apple, which is obsessed with being the one to announce things, might go ahead and announce it so that appropriate folks can design for it for when it and iOS 8 launches in the fall.
 
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