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but the vast majority of people don't own iPhone or Apple products, so it makes sense to make any hardware work with the larger audience.

Like how many people would own Mac's if Msoft acted like Apple do and not allow windows to run on a Mac.

I don't see Apple allowing OSX to run on a PC, as they know people would rather buy a PC and run OSX than would buy a Mac

That comparison isn't meaningful because Msoft and Apple have vastly different business models. Msoft is a pure software company. If Windows runs on a Mac or on a non-Mac, it makes no difference. Msoft is still making money from selling a Windows license. The same goes for Office. Office on Windows or a Mac makes no difference. Msoft is still going to make money.

Look at how much money MS made from selling Office for iPad. It's among the top-selling iOS apps, if not the best selling app. Microsoft acted just as you described-not releasing a version of Office that runs on iOS. Look at what that strategy got them.

Apple, in contrast manufactures computers and develops the OS. It would hurt Mac sales because Apple would have to compete against OEMs for hardware sales. If Apple were to allow OS X to run on a PC, Apple would have to exit the hardware business altogether.
 
Just not interested in being able to turn on my lights or adjust the thermostat, or fiddle with the furnace when I'm not home. I just don't see what this would accomplish.

iPhone: Can control your garage door, but can't reply to a work email chain with a spreadsheet document...

If this is true, this whole home thing, it represents a massive loss of focus on Apple's part.
 
You know that you cannot be wrong "1000%" Even Totally wrong 100% would be redundant.

As for the actual just of your comment please tell me one product Apple make that has 'failed again' - I am fairly sure every single product they have sold for the past 7 years have been runaway successes.
IPod hi-fi, the "fat" iPod nano off the top of my head.
 
iPhone: Can control your garage door, but can't reply to a work email chain with a spreadsheet document...

If this is true, this whole home thing, it represents a massive loss of focus on Apple's part.

:confused::rolleyes:because Apple is not going in the direction u want them to?
 
This kind of stuff has been available for years, esp alarms & home automation. It's great unless there is a pricey subscription attached to it. What Apple doing here to make it a game changer or is this just another money grab for somewhat meaningless Apple blessing?
 
Imagine having anki Drive with home automated lights and sound and temperature and...
 
In other news...Apple is set to launch a whole new line of MacBook Pro computers...made of solid SAPPHIRE (for enhanced durability)

The SapphBook™ Pro will launch in September and start at an introductory price of only $7499.00 US

Please understand, Sapphire is in limited production, and quantities may be limited (less than zero), so count your chances on this, wisely.

ie. PROBABLY NOT

:eek: :apple:
 
:confused::rolleyes:because Apple is not going in the direction u want them to?

No because it's something that will impact/benefit a very tiny segment of Apple consumers. It's millions of dollars spent in time and R&D for the niche of the niche.

It's 10 minutes of WOWWWWW SO COOL in WWDC and then vanishing off the earth 6 months later outside of the occasional youtube video.

All while people are wondering why the hell Safari keeps reloading tabs and erasing all their forms content...

There are far more important things iOS and iPhone need to be the best smartphone.
 
No because it's something that will impact/benefit a very tiny segment of Apple consumers. It's millions of dollars spent in time and R&D for the niche of the niche.

It's 10 minutes of WOWWWWW SO COOL in WWDC and then vanishing off the earth 6 months later outside of the occasional youtube video.

All while people are wondering why the hell Safari keeps reloading tabs and erasing all their forms content...

There are far more important things iOS and iPhone need to be the best smartphone.

Safari doesn't keep reloading tabs for me.

just saying'
 
Most of the unannounced sessions at WWDC revolve around Media and a new API/OS.

Could be home automation but I think it's more than that.

I'm guessing perhaps "healthbook" stuff, maybe Apple TV? Not sure what will be new in OSX besides the redesign. Though Rene Ritchie from iMore said he's hearing that Apple employees are really excited for a WWDC, especially to show off OSX so maybe Apple will surprise us all this year.
 
As a stockholder I am pretty excited about the coming WWDC.... :apple::apple:

I'm not trying to troll you or anything, but share prices historically stay the same or decrease during and immediately after the WWDC each year. This isn't because the WWDC is "poor" or anything like that. More likely it is because unless something killer is introduced that makes it look like AAPL will meet/exceed it's projected earnings; prices must fall.

Taking that history into account, your bottom line might be better served by short selling. If you own a significant amount of shares, you could avoid the margin costs of short selling, and just dump your shares before the WWDC and buy back in at the bottom of the dip.

That said, the above advice may sound greedy - but that is just how the stock market works. For anyone to win, someone else has to lose - don't be the guy that helps someone else win.
 
I'm in no hurry for this stuff.

Manual light switches are already getting the job done and my household appliances don't need much managing. My wife isn't going to let me control the thermostat even if the singularity comes.

Maybe in 15-20 years when it all stabilizes.

Sounds like a divorce and thousands of dollars worth of smart appliances is necessary.
 
It's one thing for Apple to announce a Home Automation Controller API, it's wholly another to re-wire 100 million American homes for a controller. Do you realize how much that would cost? No way home automation is for the now, it's for the future when houses are built with a home automation controller in mind. 30-40 years into the future.

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They did. After the iPhone was introduced for example at a keynote in 2007 they grew 7 fold in a matter of 5 years.

Sincerely,
another long stock holder

All Apple devices are built upon existing infrastructure that they didn't build. Things like WiFi routers, electrical outlets, etc...
 
No. the switches will still have switches. Like all current home automation solutions. Rolls eyes.

Yes I assume they would. Just like motion control lights. The question is WHY I would use an iPone app to control a light? How could it be better then either the wall switch or the IR motion control.

I assume the user would have the option. but in what scenario would he use the phone app?

Heating and AC is different. The user interface on the wall units is way to hard to use. Programming them means looking at some tiny LCD and making 200 button pushes. So there is room to improve but the IR motion control lights are already near ideal and very easy to use.
 
Forget these iPhone-controlled lights, which are just for fun. Others have already solved automated lights long ago. If Apple makes the Mac capable of acting as a security camera DVR, the world will be a better place. Just an RCA composite video to TB or USB or FW plus simple video recording and streaming software. There are thousands of cheap DVRs available with great hardware, but then they require ActiveX on IE6 to view streamed video, completely hostile to Mac and Linux and hardly even usable with Windows.

But who am I kidding? Apple is way too hip to be associated with anything with fewer than 3 pins like RCA cables.

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All Apple devices are built upon existing infrastructure that they didn't build. Things like WiFi routers, electrical outlets, etc...

How is this relevant?
 
It's one thing for Apple to announce a Home Automation Controller API, it's wholly another to re-wire 100 million American homes for a controller. Do you realize how much that would cost? No way home automation is for the now, it's for the future when houses are built with a home automation controller in mind. 30-40 years into the future.

That is the problem. First you need ONE (not two) widely used standard and people need to by 100% dead-on certain the standard will never change in the lifetime of the building. Could you imagine building s 500 unit condo complex and needing to change out the light switches every 5 years because the old switches are not supported in IOS 9.

Before anyone but a fan-boy would use these they would have to sell at Home Depot for $5 each. and any brand would have to interchange with any other brand.

In other words the prime customer here is a construction company who is building out a subdivision or a condo complex or a high-rise. Those guys are not going to pay $50 for a light switch that might become obsolete in five years. They will need to buy commodity parts available at any hardware store.
 
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My condo literally only has a motion sensor connected to a light in the stairwell. I suspect most homes have this limited amount of wiring.

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Forget these iPhone-controlled lights, which are just for fun. Others have already solved automated lights long ago. If Apple makes the Mac capable of acting as a security camera DVR, the world will be a better place. Just an RCA composite video to TB or USB or FW plus simple video recording and streaming software. There are thousands of cheap DVRs available with great hardware, but then they require ActiveX on IE6 to view streamed video, completely hostile to Mac and Linux and hardly even usable with Windows.

But who am I kidding? Apple is way too hip to be associated with anything with fewer than 3 pins like RCA cables.

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How is this relevant?

It's relevant because I'm trying to bring sanity to an over-hyped subject. Home Automation is not like the iPad.
 
They typically go down, because all the big money pants loose their faith after the huge hype. But in reality, this is the best time to buy, after it goes down. Because it then goes back up after the scary cats go elsewhere.

Not when there's already a bubble from Apple pumping its own stock. We miss Jobs.
 
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