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Apple to Launch Official Development Kit for iPhone in January?
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I think he means so you can load webpages ON the iPhone FROM the iPhone, so you don't have to wait for edge/wifi. I doubt the iPhone is ever intended to server webpages to the outside world.
Ah, I get you now. I think I assumed the physical dock when you said that. You mean some sort of external mic/speak that you'd plug in for use when you happen to be in a wifi or something. ..
I definitely believe that an official SDK is going to come out. And I can't wait to see what cool apps people will write! 
No. Why should they to serve AJAX applications locally?
I assume they could install a *simple* Web Server (much simpler than Apache: no WebDAV, no FTP, no configuration - just a plain WebServer that ONLY serves http://localhost/somepath). And, you could use iTunes or a similar tool to install files (what is the difference of installing Music from HTML?).
And, I can't see why this could be easily hacked if the web server allows local access only. I made a mistake in my original post - there is NO need for PHP or any scripting language (which is the usual source of Web Server vulnerability) on the iPhone. Safari already provides the scripting language: JavaScript. You have to serve just some .js files.
I kinda doubt it... if they wanted that on there it would have been from the beginning... But i think they want the touch to be an LE version of the the Phone... so less features...
Flash? AIR? RIA?
With Flash being such a big part of the web, what is the possibility that Apple could be working with Adobe to bring the rich client AIR environment to the iPhone?
Or is Apple going to introduce their own RIA platform??
With Flash being such a big part of the web, what is the possibility that Apple could be working with Adobe to bring the rich client AIR environment to the iPhone?
Or is Apple going to introduce their own RIA platform??
Objective-C 2.0
I wonder if the reason for the wait is because some of the iPhone APIs require the use of Objective-C 2.0. Obviously a lot of them do not because of the currently booming third party development community. However this could be the reason.
I wonder if the reason for the wait is because some of the iPhone APIs require the use of Objective-C 2.0. Obviously a lot of them do not because of the currently booming third party development community. However this could be the reason.
I love Apple and I love their products ... but I hate how they are dealing with 3rd party apps. Its childish.
I don't believe they are going to release an SDK. If they were, why would they be spending so much time locking down the device ?
Just doesn't make sense.
I don't believe they are going to release an SDK. If they were, why would they be spending so much time locking down the device ?
Just doesn't make sense.
It would however be nice if they'd offer these apps on the iTunes store for something like $5 each.
I really think that it will be some port of Adobe's AIR runtime. (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/) It already runs on OS X, proper. I don't think that running on the iPhone would be too big of a stretch.
...because you lose the apps when you are out of network contact.
Nevermind a webserver on the iphone (I see what people are saying but it's a little cludgy) we need Google Gears!
Common Apple team up with Google. I mean, you share board members.
Those 3rd party apps run as root. You should understand now.
They need either a sandbox to run them in or to be run with less priviledge.
I have had Leopard since the developer preview from WWDC 06, and through all the bugginess up till the last build released to developers I have gotten a feel for it.
That being said, there is no doubt that the phone runs on Leopard. Remember how they say it isn't a mobile OS, it IS OS X, sure there is some debate, but at the end of the day it's Leopard... they even said they stole members of the Leopard team to work on the iPhone.
This doesn't mean that Leopard's release = SDK. However it makes more sense. We all know how secretive Apple can be, and control freaks too. I am sure they could have released an SDK at WWDC this year, but they want to have some control over the applications. I installed AppTap like many people, and saw some impressive third party apps, however the majority of them were pretty useless.
I think once Apple figures out a way to control third party apps they will release an SDK... or they might just do what they did with the iPod and only let a few select companies develop apps/games.
In other news, I can't wait to hear more hype about Leopard, I love this phone, but give the new big cat some credit and let it share the spotlight for a little bit!
-Roy
That being said, there is no doubt that the phone runs on Leopard. Remember how they say it isn't a mobile OS, it IS OS X, sure there is some debate, but at the end of the day it's Leopard... they even said they stole members of the Leopard team to work on the iPhone.
This doesn't mean that Leopard's release = SDK. However it makes more sense. We all know how secretive Apple can be, and control freaks too. I am sure they could have released an SDK at WWDC this year, but they want to have some control over the applications. I installed AppTap like many people, and saw some impressive third party apps, however the majority of them were pretty useless.
I think once Apple figures out a way to control third party apps they will release an SDK... or they might just do what they did with the iPod and only let a few select companies develop apps/games.
In other news, I can't wait to hear more hype about Leopard, I love this phone, but give the new big cat some credit and let it share the spotlight for a little bit!
-Roy
I think we will get the development kit sooner or later...hopefully sooner.
Imagine how great the iPhone will be by this time in 2008, 09, etc.
Imagine how great the iPhone will be by this time in 2008, 09, etc.
They lock down the iPhone because the HAVE to. Imagine the lawsuits if they didn't close the security holes. And the bonus is they close up the platform to rogue development and thereby make the iPhone more attractive for developers of Apples' choice. The perfect storm scenario.
We need the iPhone and the iPod touch fully open to third party application development via an Apple SDK for both developing for them at our University and also purchasing for our University studens and staff.
Is Apple blind not having released such SDK yet? They are losing big --BIG-- sales in the thousands, at least with us.
Is Apple blind not having released such SDK yet? They are losing big --BIG-- sales in the thousands, at least with us.
Secure environment while it's still essentially a development platform. They don't need to be chasing ghosts right now. I also think (as others have indicated in other threads) that Leopard is the real basis for the iPhone. Until it's release into the wild for a few months, Apple is keeping strict reigns. I'm looking forward to what Apple has in store for the iPhone. I think we will all be pleasantly surprised next year.