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Apple to Launch Official Development Kit for iPhone in January?
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I think all the complainers, if they were just more patient, would see that there is an ongoing effort at Apple to make the best product they can.
After all, they have a pretty good track record with innovation and support.
I also think that the iPhone OS, as others have posted, is more related to Jaguar and is still just getting the bugs worked out. We could have waited a couple more years for the perfect iPhone or enjoy the development process that Apple will pursue as early adopters.
After all, they have a pretty good track record with innovation and support.
I also think that the iPhone OS, as others have posted, is more related to Jaguar and is still just getting the bugs worked out. We could have waited a couple more years for the perfect iPhone or enjoy the development process that Apple will pursue as early adopters.
Even the hackers quickly built a preliminary SDK, Apple could have done a better job by now, or even by release...
Congrats to your post
This is the first time I have seen the whole hacking issue from this perspective. Thank you very much for opening my mind. Indeed you are right.
I personally think an SDK is just a matter of time. Why worrying about 3rd party plugins, when there is a real business for the originating company to receive (e.g. Why should Apple care about the Flash plugin, when the perfect people for optimizing are Adobe?).
This is the first time I have seen the whole hacking issue from this perspective. Thank you very much for opening my mind. Indeed you are right.
I personally think an SDK is just a matter of time. Why worrying about 3rd party plugins, when there is a real business for the originating company to receive (e.g. Why should Apple care about the Flash plugin, when the perfect people for optimizing are Adobe?).
Oh you know this huh? Because you have built and documents a safe, secure, not battery draining, clearly documents SDK of the magnitude of the iphone SDK?
If the hackers could do it?
Big difference between a half ss hack job and a real documented SDK.
Big difference.
Again.
If we find out that more then its share of the iphone OS is using leopard "parts" then we know another reason for it not being ready.
So, you're not a developer, then, eh? Javascript isn't the end-all/be-all of programming languages for the web, and in fact, one I don't prefer to use for anything beyond user input (or jquery anim)
I think most of you in the "web pages are just fine for apps" crowd have totally different needs in mind than I do.
No! No! No! No! You're speculating! This is "OSX" we're talking about. It is secure (and continues to improve on that front).
"Developers of Apple's choice?" Once again No!x4. I don't want Apple to bless certain apps, because then we'll only get a very few apps, and mostly useless crap like games.
"Rogue Development"? Jeez, rogue development. Rogue Development on the mac has produced everything in this list: http://coolmacapps.com/ To even THINK that Apple is able to decide what every iPhone user wants to use with their totally capable mobile device is foolish.
edit: This may be a more pertinent example: http://software.palm.com/us/html/
It's like this: If you don't want the app that some third party developer has made, don't install the damn thing, and more importantly, don't PREVENT others from doing so if they need to.
Presently I am holding out on the iPhone or iPod Touch as both run on the Mac OS X mobile edition which leaves them in the infancy stage. Some of the utilities and applications that I am used to for mobility are not available on the two products.
Maybe in a year, for now my MBP will fill any void in my mobile life.
Maybe in a year, for now my MBP will fill any void in my mobile life.
True, but Apple know the very framework of the OS X derivative on which the iPhone runs. So big difference here, too.
Give it possible another 6 months and revolutionary will become "the norm" utility.
Touch screens are nothing new, putting it together in a mobile device is nothing new, there way its executed is unique at the moment.
Sure, and it would be nice if the current iphone was 3G ....
Seriously I have been without a mobile phone for over 3 years and I do not miss it at all.
I do not see all the hype of the touch screen and OS X mobile, and I have used it in person.
Though it would make more sense for a user to buy an iPhone instead of a Touch as it has more to offer a user.
I still cannot justify buying an iPhone or Touch, and price is not an obligation.
Indeed I am waiting on that also!I'm really holding out for Skype on the Touch if the iPhone SDK can deliver that to the iPod Touch.
The outcome of this will mostly determine whether or not I purchase the iPhone, which is both more expensive and less functional than its competitors, or simply opt for a Treo, which is cheaper, more expandable, has an established base of 3rd party apps, and plays fine with OS X.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed, because despite the hardware limitations (no memory card slot, no 3G) in the iPhone, it is a well-designed device (my co-worker has one, and it really is lovely to use).
I'm keeping my fingers crossed, because despite the hardware limitations (no memory card slot, no 3G) in the iPhone, it is a well-designed device (my co-worker has one, and it really is lovely to use).
Gears is also an interesting option. However, I really think Adobe AIR is more well rounded.
Perhaps we'll see AIR and Gears mashup a little bit? I think there is some sense to that, though Google and Adobe both display a lot of NIH syndrome.
Applet cannot ignore Flash forever on the iPhone, and a web-based SDK doesn't make sense without some kind of client side storage/disconnected features. Without a solid spec on that front, they have to go with either Gears or Air... I cannot imagine them wanting to pick Silverlight... The only question is whether or not they'll try and rock the boat and do it themselves....
You don't have to design for either, they're the exact same for all applications that don't rely on phone or bluetooth.
We'll see if Apple holds back the Touch...
I really don't think that the apps on this iPhone are as dodgy as people make out. If you want to be fully covered, the plan is for you.
I highly recommend the phone. It's amazing.
there already exists an sdk for osx that should be safe, secure, not battery draining and well documented. if the iphone uses a subset of osx (as is claimed), an sdk for it should be a matter of simplifying the osx sdk. not a big deal really.
Man did you nail that.
I've enjoyed watching the moaning from the 'developers' on this list who think that Apple should design their consumer electronics business plan around them.
Most developers wouldn't recognize a good business plan if it bit them in the ass, as evidenced by the fact that they think mass sales can be achieved by focusing on niche markets.
Oh My God!!!
Thousands?? Oh no!
Others have said it well.
Chill for a friggin minute. You really think Apple left all those open squares on the menu so that the empty black can be used as a mirror? (Well, given the narcissism of the 'gimme now!' crowd here, maybe that IS what its for.
)Sure, and it would be nice if the current iphone was 3G ....
For what its worth, see
http://seekingalpha.com/article/49988-why-apple-s-iphone-doesn-t-need-3g?source=yahoo
for at least another viewpoint on why 3G is not the be-all end-all many believe it is.
Um, the iPhone cannot receive data and calls at the same time, due to EDGE. Bring on 3G so I can get some mail without missing every call.
Plus, I think this 3rd party app thing hit Apple much more than they realized. They didn't simply say that the SDK is down the road a bit until they finalize the platform, they asserted that developers should move to web apps. Well, after using EDGE around busy cities, it makes the web app approach virtually unusable.