Part of strategy for Apple is to eliminate with respect to password programs. 1Password and the others in that business are very unhappy today. Apple will not charge for this.
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Apple to Launch Standalone 'Passwords' App in iOS 18 and macOS 15
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I only paid once, bought the app a few years ago and never had to pay a subscription. But if a one-time purchase is still an option I’d always go for that; I hate renting software.
I do trust Secrets and never had an issue with their pricing. YMMV!
I don't trust even the "big names" with this, but Apple I would trust (in the sense I don't think they'll suddenly sell it all to the Russian Mafia and retire to Chile). However, no matter how much all this stuff is encrypted and God-knows what else, I still need a lot of convincing that storing everything like this in one place is sensible, even thought it is convenient. I am sure that is due to my own ignorance, but is anything really "uncrackable?"
Some are better than others. LastPass had multiple breaches and rubbed salt into the wound by hiding it for a while. 1Password has more trust because it has a stronger history and is located in multiple countries for added security — both from a hacking perspective and, I believe, from how much it can be forced to do things by governments.
Why do think that Apple strategy is to eliminate other password managers?
And, I don't get why people are excited about the possibility of Apple sherlocking other application. Do you really hate people making money, except Apple? Do you WANT companies like 1Password to go out of business? Did they kick your dog or something. I understand that YOUR needs might not justify the cost, but many posters on this forum act like it is a personal insult that 1Password dares to offer a service for a fee. The same people who "praise" Apple for ever raising costs of their subscriptions, pan other companies for charging a subscription. Maybe they are more concerned with their stock portfolio than the service itself?
Chances are very high that, whatever Apple releases, will be a very minimal solution. Will it fill the needs of many users, probably. But, it its NOT going to any where as powerful as 1Password. 1Password is an ENTERPRISE level solution. Just because you use 10% of the features, doesn't discount they usefulness.
You may not be aware that Apple uses 1Password internally (from what I have heard they have a separate, custom tenent that is store on Apple servers). The reason? 1Password has integrations well beyond basic password management. Its CI/CD and API solutions are top notch. Whatever Apple comes up with will not be able to complete with that.
You've just explained why 1Password isn't going out of business anytime soon, and also why people are pleased to see a free, trustworthy option that works for the 90%+ of users who simply want a personal solution without an all-singing all-dancing option.
How are they unhappy? I said this a few times… Apple has a weather app, note app, and a mail app and look at all of the 3rd party apps that do the same…. And better.
Apple apps are always very basic and do the bare minimum while the 3rd party ones do more.
Apple fan boys need to realize that these 3rd party passwords manager work on more than just Apple devices.
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1Password lost the mindset for Mac users when they went Electron with the GUI application. That was a crime against humanity.
I've only ever used Apples own password manager (the one in settings). It's always worked perfectly well for me. Never had any need to use any other password manager TBH......
I hope this roll out will be much better than what Apple recently did with the Journal app. My gut tells me that 1Password won't have anything to really worry about initially.
What’s funny about the Apple Journal app, my sister was so excited because she felt she needed to use one more. After a week of using it, she went to Day One.
If Apples password manager app is as reliable as their weather app, 3rd party passwords have nothing to worry about.
I think this is true. We've seen other password managers get hacked in the past, sometime multiple times. We've seen iCloud encryption get busted even if it's not easy or common. Nothing stored in the cloud is 100% safe. I use Passwords myself and excited to see how cross compatible this new app is with other browsers. But like you, I still only store financial related account PWs in my head plus other safeguards.
And of course, you need to wait for a few years to see of Apple abandons it, updates it, or just lets it die a slow bug ridden death.
I probably will stick with the subscription of 1Password for multi-platform support. Apple Notes did get my off Evernote and Apple Reminders got me off Things.
Why do you? Bitwarden is free and aside from their app lacking a little polish that 1Password has, it offers all the same functionality for free and is fully cross platform.
