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Here's the problem we're not talking about. Personal responsibility.

The executives responsible for the decision.

They use these disingenuous , sneaking, abusive tactics to drive sales. These sales earn them many millions in bonuses for their 'performance.' They profited personally - and hugely - for this malfeasance.

Eventually, despite lies, they are caught. The response is to take cash out of the shareholders' pockets and try to buy off customers. Apple is owned by shareholders, not executives.

I want the cost of the battery replacements to come out of the pockets of the executives who made the battery-gate decision to throttle other people's property.


Otherwise they profit - and everyone else looses. These schmucks are destroying Apple.
 
Damage control . And a PR move...
I’m thinking even if Apple decided to be transparent to it’s customers and informed them about performance throttlling, some customers would still complain. There would still be lawsuits because it’s Apple. Best thing they can do is increase the battery capacity or work on a different battery technology.
 
Amazing news and uncalled for. I imagine all the trolls will have to find something else to whine about. Apple has stepped up and addressed something that was not a big deal.
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Not a big deal? Lots of class actions, it was simply dishonest. Dishonest is not a bog deal for you? Great. Go head.

Android "Oh crap. Hope they don't find out how we make incompatible OS, Apps and everything else crappy"
Again? Wow, Apple fanboys really have a problem with Android. Your post is pathetic, what is crappy is your mind.
 
I’m thinking even if Apple decided to be transparent to it’s customers and informed them about performance throttlling, some customers would still complain. There would still be lawsuits because it’s Apple. Best thing they can do is increase the battery capacity or work on a different battery technology.

Or make battery user-replaceable. What a refreshing idea, no?
 
If a consumer gets a service battery warning and no CPU slowdown they will be more likely to replace the battery than upgrade to a new iOS device.

If a consumers device is throttled and running slower on a new version of iOS they will be more likely to consider upgrading to the new faster "best iOS device yet".

$79 dollars vs $500+ dollars

Is it really a shock that this "feature" was unannounced?
 
Here's the problem we're not talking about. Personal responsibility.

The executives responsible for the decision.

They use these disingenuous , sneaking, abusive tactics to drive sales. These sales earn them many millions in bonuses for their 'performance.' They profited personally - and hugely - for this malfeasance.

Eventually, despite lies, they are caught. The response is to take cash out of the shareholders' pockets and try to buy off customers. Apple is owned by shareholders, not executives.

I want the cost of the battery replacements to come out of the pockets of the executives who made the battery-gate decision to throttle other people's property.


Otherwise they profit - and everyone else looses. These schmucks are destroying Apple.

Yes, shareholders share responsibility. Executives are simply working for shareholders.
 
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OK, I see you just don't want to admit that Apple screwed up. Obviously the new battery has enough current capacity and current capacity drops with each recharge cycle. Bigger battery means fewer recharge cycles and thus preserves current capacity longer.

No no no. That's not how it works AT ALL. The ability of the battery to source high current has to do with many more variables than number of charge cycles (though that is one factor), and since many people would still plug in every night, a bigger battery would have almost no effect on that factor in any case.
 
I would rather have to recharge my phone more frequently than have it slowed down.

Having to recharge your phone more frequently is not the flipside you would experience if your phone was not being slowed down in the way Apple’s battery management works.

Having your phone shut down unexpectedly is the actual flipside. And if that didn’t happen without the battery management in place, then it’s also likely you don’t experience slow downs from the battery management. You might experience other slow downs, of course.
 
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What annoys me about this and other things like it is that it sets the precedent that an uninformed public can develop an "outcry" over anything get a result out of Apple. Real shame. The public didn't deserve this level of compromise from Apple. Intelligent CPU management of a device powered by lithium-ion battery is expected and appropriate, and really no one's business besides the engineers.
I'm impressed with how much you were able to get so wrong in so few words.
 
Seems like they did it again. Cover up an underlying hardware issue (design flaw in energy management) with a bandaid solution and everyone is happy. What's next? - Will they remove the "time remaining" feature from macOS?
 
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What annoys me about this and other things like it is that it sets the precedent that an uninformed public can develop an "outcry" over anything get a result out of Apple. Real shame. The public didn't deserve this level of compromise from Apple. Intelligent CPU management of a device powered by lithium-ion battery is expected and appropriate, and really no one's business besides the engineers.
you didnt read the thread. they refused to replace 'peerfectly good batteries' even though they were throttling based on that battery. so sick of uninformed posers posting nonsense.
 
You can go back to having the software that doesn’t limit performance and crashes cause your battery is old

The assumption is that the software is well written. What if the software was so badly written that it is just sucking the life out of the CPU and the battery cannot handle that. This started to happen after iPhone 6s which means iOS 9 if I am not mistaken. I think Apple needs to evaluate their software rather than implementing a feature that masks the issue.
 
£29 for only 1 year? and then back to £79? o_O

That’s my very first thought on this! Only one year for be discount. Hopefully it’s for better functioning batteries!!

My second thought, seems partially reflected in the stock going up a blip today ... is the huge revenues Apple will get JUST from massive battery replacements!!

What annoys me about this and other things like it is that it sets the precedent that an uninformed public can develop an "outcry" over anything get a result out of Apple. Real shame. The public didn't deserve this level of compromise from Apple. Intelligent CPU management of a device powered by lithium-ion battery is expected and appropriate, and really no one's business besides the engineers.

What? Many people have been DENIED batteey replacements even at the cost of the end user willing to PAY Apple for the battery replacement!

Samsung took a hit for their mistake last year, and they did right to earn customers money and faith in their safety.

Apple just screwed over the customer by NOT communicating their changes in the OS which is suspect to consider what else are they doing. How many videos and speeches and interviews between Jobs and Cook alone stating they’ll ASK the customer for changes that will affect them, more than ince in clear description easy language?!??!!

That is where Apple screwed up! The public rightfully so voiced their concern. Apple cannot say their protecting end user experience by essentially limiting their experience in the same token it’s insulting to even say that after being caught. Face it Apple got caught, the public spoke and Apple KNEW this would affect end user confidence and question their motives in the future and potentially affecting sales of products and services current and especially in the future.

This is how consumerism or capitalism works. Get used to it it’s been here for almost 300yrs +

If this is US only i am gonna cut a bitch

Battery-gate, it’s coming.

Nah just boring drama queen life driven yuppies or word puzzle douches looking for their own 1min importance in the world would call anything and-gate. This “gate” nonsense has gone on long enough!
 
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This is good news for those of us that didn't doubt Apple's good intentions in the first place.

For others, this is just more "proof" that Apple is corrupt and more ammo for the "everything sucks" rhetoric.
No, when it sucks I say it, and when it doesn't I praise Apple. There are greys as well, no just blacks and whites. It's called intelligence, reasoning. Something that lots customers have no clue about, especially in the US. Just fanboys and haters, always this childish dualism. Impressive.
 
Wrong comparison. The equivalent analogy would be the car shop capping your car speed because it could suddenly stop when you’re driving, which I’m sure you’d be okay with that.



What? Slowing down my phone is no one’s business but Apple engineers? That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. They updated my phone to it down and you are saying it none of my business? Take your car into the shop and when they cap top speed at 55MPH so you can maintain proper gas mileage, let me know how that works out.
 
... for this malfeasance.

I want the cost of the battery replacements to come out of the pockets of the executives who made the battery-gate decision to throttle other people's property.

Says a newbie who only has 11 posts. I wonder if she is doing this because, or put her money where her mouth is by shorting AAPL?
 
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I don’t believe Apple HAD to do this, but good on them for doing it anyway.

Also, if you’re one of the people complaining that your iPhone won’t let you select the features it modifies to save battery life, go buy another phone. I think it’s pretty ridiculous to expect Apple to include this selection - most of its customers wouldn’t have a clue and not to mention this is the product Apple made. They’re an individual company and can make their products do whatever they want. There was no false advertising. There was no deception. Power users will always want more information than they get, thinking they know better than the engineers that designed the product.

You don’t like it, you can speak with your wallet. By all means, suggest improvements, but you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
if they throttle yiou should be notified. simple as that.
 
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I get the response to Apple’s lack of communication up front, but the overly critical and idiotic “I’m switching” or “would you buy another iPhone?” threads seem all the more ridiculous right now. Wait, no they don’t, they were just as ridiculous before this announcement came out. Carry on, people.
 
What? Slowing down my phone is no one’s business but Apple engineers? That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. They updated my phone to it down and you are saying it none of my business? Take your car into the shop and when they cap top speed at 55MPH so you can maintain proper gas mileage, let me know how that works out.

This analogy is not equivalent at all. The issue is that instantaneous peaks would cause the device to shutdown unexpectedly. This would happen when the battery becomes unable to provide adequate power to service the CPU’s demands. This is an engineers problem...

This software fix is not an imposed limit to achieve longer battery life but to prevent random shutdowns from your device.

More like how a flashlight doesn’t produce as bright a light as battery capacity diminishes.
 
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