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The camera is even more important to Apple now due to the rise of Pokémon Go. What will people do if the augmented reality fails to be as convincing as on rival phones? I don't even know if I'm joking anymore.

Nope. The current gen iPhone still has one of the best cameras, even compared to new devices. Check out Anandtech's review of the Samsung S7.

In 79 days, Apple will leapfrog all of the Android competitors.
 
plenty of US based profits to fund these jobs. Maybe Europe has some gifted tech people Apple would like to invest in. If it was tax related, they would be based in Ireland
I think most European Apple jobs are in Ireland because wages and taxes are low. Don't ask the non-Irish to move there, especially with that climate.
 
While you guys are busy bitching about Photos, people use it very happily.

My girlfriend is the typical tech illiterate, yet she figured out the new app, including iCloud album sharing, by herself, and immediately. She is especially happy about the new editing tools.

Why can't we have aperture and photos? Many of us happily used aperture.
 
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I think most European Apple jobs are in Ireland because wages and taxes are low. Don't ask the non-Irish to move there, especially with that climate.

Yes it's for tax reasons.

Ireland is great, people are fantastic, heck the climate is classic Uk...
 
Yes it's for tax reasons.

Ireland is great, people are fantastic, heck the climate is classic Uk...
Yes, I know the scenery and especially the people are great.

That is no reason to accept lowballing.
 
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Apple opens all research facilities overseas these days.

Makes sense. That is where all there $ is. Obviously Apple doesn't want to pay 2x tax so it just spends it overseas where the tax is already paid vs. depositing in U.S. accounts and paying again.
 
I think most European Apple jobs are in Ireland because wages and taxes are low. Don't ask the non-Irish to move there, especially with that climate.

Climate, I don't know.

But Irish people are beautiful, happy and friendly, and landscapes are breathtaking.
 
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Makes sense. That is where all there $ is. Obviously Apple doesn't want to pay 2x tax so it just spends it overseas where the tax is already paid vs. depositing in U.S. accounts and paying again.

They don't pay double tax. They get full credit for any foreign taxes paid. The reason it looks like "double taxation" is due to so much overseas profit being funneled through tax haven countries such as Ireland, where they basically pay nothing and therefore don't get much credit for taxes paid.
 
They don't pay double tax. They get full credit for any foreign taxes paid. The reason it looks like "double taxation" is due to so much overseas profit being funneled through tax haven countries such as Ireland, where they basically pay nothing and therefore don't get much credit for taxes paid.
Let's back-tax them. Problem solved.
 
While you guys are busy bitching about Photos, people use it very happily.

My girlfriend is the typical tech illiterate, yet she figured out the new app, including iCloud album sharing, by herself, and immediately. She is especially happy about the new editing tools.
Great, what I don't want is software that is stripped from so many features that it becomes a PITA not to use because the GUI might be bloated, but because it doesn't assist me in the ways that are necessary for my way of thinking/operating and the amount of pictures I have and how I work with photos.

Aperture was this close to perfect in relation to organization tools, sure it lacked on the RAW processor and other features needed to keep it up to snuff, but it's a real shame Apple dropped it.

And whilst you are busy telling me how I supposedly overlook that other people might be content with it, I'm wondering why you assume that I'm trying to speak for everyone, because I am not.
If anything, Apple calling this the replacement for iPhoto AND Aperture signals they are trying to "one size fits all" me, which is an abomination in spite of their excellent work deliberatly making a consumer product (iPhoto) and one for very demanding folks (Aperture) before that.

Oh and don't worry, I'm not too busy complaining about this, if I was I'd be filling the forums non-stop about this awful move.
I'm still running Aperture, but God knows how long Apple is willing to drag along those who fail to find a reasonable replacement.
Yes that's right, still haven't found one, that's how good Aperture was.

This is beyond "but XYZ doesn't look as beautiful"...
We're talking functionality and speed of workflow here, because let me tell you, Aperture isn't nice to look at, it is for what it is, but it's not the "out of your sight"-kind of eye candy content-centric GUI.
And that, amongst other things, is what makes the application work so well.

I'm glad your girlfriend is happy with the software, but with all due respect, that doesn't help me jack with my database and its future and you'll understand that I'm more than annoyed to have been dropped by Apple like a hot potatoe with all the work I put into my collection, many parts of which are untransferable to Apple Photos.

I've sworn myself to remember this very well for future considerations regarding investing time and money into their products, because they seem to care very little about how you transition out once something's gone.
As long as they still unofficially drag Aperture around, like not kicking it out of iTunes integration, patching the OS around it more or less undocumented, etc ... they still have time to impress and correct this course again in some way, but right now I'm more eagerly awaiting what Affinity do with the DAM they are working on.

Glassed Silver:ios
 
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Great, what I don't want is software that is stripped from so many features that it becomes a PITA not to use because the GUI might be bloated, but because it doesn't assist me in the ways that are necessary for my way of thinking/operating and the amount of pictures I have and how I work with photos.

Aperture was this close to perfect in relation to organization tools, sure it lacked on the RAW processor and other features needed to keep it up to snuff, but it's a real shame Apple dropped it.

And whilst you are busy telling me how I supposedly overlook that other people might be content with it, I'm wondering why you assume that I'm trying to speak for everyone, because I am not.
If anything, Apple calling this the replacement for iPhoto AND Aperture signals they are trying to "one size fits all" me, which is an abomination in spite of their excellent work deliberatly making a consumer product (iPhoto) and one for very demanding folks (Aperture) before that.

Oh and don't worry, I'm not too busy complaining about this, if I was I'd be filling the forums non-stop about this awful move.
I'm still running Aperture, but God knows how long Apple is willing to drag along those who fail to find a reasonable replacement.
Yes that's right, still haven't found one, that's how good Aperture was.

This is beyond "but XYZ doesn't look as beautiful"...
We're talking functionality and speed of workflow here, because let me tell you, Aperture isn't nice to look at, it is for what it is, but it's not the "out of your sight"-kind of eye candy content-centric GUI.
And that, amongst other things, is what makes the application work so well.

I'm glad your girlfriend is happy with the software, but with all due respect, that doesn't help me jack with my database and its future and you'll understand that I'm more than annoyed to have been dropped by Apple like a hot potatoe with all the work I put into my collection, many parts of which are untransferable to Apple Photos.

I've sworn myself to remember this very well for future considerations regarding investing time and money into their products, because they seem to care very little about how you transition out once something's gone.
As long as they still unofficially drag Aperture around, like not kicking it out of iTunes integration, patching the OS around it more or less undocumented, etc ... they still have time to impress and correct this course again in some way, but right now I'm more eagerly awaiting what Affinity do with the DAM they are working on.

Glassed Silver:ios

There was no Aperture to speak of for iOS; for the Mac there are excellent alternatives.

Where's your problem, and what exactly Aperture has to do with the Grenoble imaging center?
 
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Must have something to do with those billions they are unwilling to repatriate.

No, it has to do with finding key technology Apple needs, and, well-educated, very smart, and very motivated engineers/scientists/researchers to develop it further. If it were just about not paying or paying low taxes, I suspect there are many under-developed countries all over the world where Apple could setup.
 
A while back the iPhone featured the best smartphone camera aside from bulky nich smartphones. For years since then we've been reading about Apple's camera and image research yet all they have to show for it is an iPhone camera that has fallen behind the pack.

The new dual cam 7 Plus looks like it could retake the lead but I'm skeptical of Apple's ability, or more accurately, Apple's will to do so. It's not resources or talent that Apple lacks, the problem is the Apple bean counters who now seem to rule the company with a short-sighted focus on obscene margins across every product range. A quality lens and sensor would be invaluable to Apple's reputation and long term prospects but they would knock back Apple's profits for the next quarter.

Can anyone imagine Steve Jobs accepting a flagship iPhone with camera image quality inferior to the other market leaders? I sure can't. His pride and ego were invested in Apple's products. Now it seems nobody at Apple takes it personally when the iPhone camera falls behind, or at least, the ones who do take it personally lack the power to change anything.

It's also disappointing that the dual lens camera isn't available on the 4.7 incher. Thank those profit margins again, and Ive's thin fetish.
 
There was no Aperture to speak of for iOS; for the Mac there are excellent alternatives.

Where's your problem, and what exactly Aperture has to do with the Grenoble imaging center?
I'm not talking about iOS and my Aperture <- iTunes → iOS Photos setup works.
Could have given Aperture iCloud Photo Lib support too for all I care.

Are there? I disagree. Yes, generally speaking there are other DAMs that do some things better than how Aperture did things, but workflow-wise it remains uncontested for me personally and anyone who actually bothered to stick to Aperture all these years after Apple slowed down development. (hindsight hah!)

My problem? Oh, I think I explained fairly well which areas I love Aperture for and there's plenty more.
Doubt you really want the wall of text, I certainly don't feel like pointing out many of the details I've already talked about on here.

Nothing to do with the Grenoble imaging center indeed, other than of course it's interesting to see Apple's effort in photography and at the same time screwing Aperture users.
You want a direct relation though I assume, can't provide that.

@Glassed Silver have you considered other options like DXO Optics Pro or Capture One Pro....?

I have, nothing comes close.
I wouldn't talk about how Aperture did the management and workflow so well if it was easily replaceable, because I haven't stuck with it ever since to invest more work into the lib and make the move even more of a hack job than necessary.
I will jump ship as soon as I see someone offers me a reasonable alternative.

Guess I might end up jumping whenever Aperture stops working or I'll just stay on the last macOS release that works and pray I find an alternative then...

I'm not going to settle for something I don't like and eventually jump ship AGAIN.
Database migration is a B*** no need to rush other than to find peace of mind. Wouldn't find that peace with a product I deem inferior. (for me personally, again, I have to stress that part, as everyone's preferred workflow, way of organizing and whatever else they need differs greatly, even more so the bigger the libraries are you're talking about)

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Hmm, when I read "... opening imaging lab ..." the first thing that sprung to my mind was autonomous driving technology. Then I read "for iOS". Ah well.
 
The world has been born anew and we are all trying to come to grips with the new reality. All our ideas about how things may play out are different now, we need to figure them out again, because of Pokemon Go.
All of our ideas?????? Really????? Is playing some game the only thing in your life? Does it tell you what you are going to eat today, tomorrow?
How's about SOME of our Ideas.
No [IMHO frankly silly] computer game can last forever. It is a fad and will the next big thing will be along soon. Then Pokemon will be consigned to the dustbin of history.
 
Mobile low-light photos will remain crappy. You can't innovate my ass around the massive noise in small pixels.
 
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