Apple to Purchase Chinese Game Developer Handseeing?

[whatever]

I just don't understand personally. The company has 40% margins and pays the bulk of its people in America (developers etc.) Why not shell out the money and do everything here in the US, stimulate the economy, perhaps fix Apples QC issues, and maybe start a trend of bringing things back to the US.

Of course leave the blackmailing Unions out of it.

So why doesn't anyone think that Apple is buying the company for their technology and customer base.

Once the purchase happens, move the braintrust to the US and lay off the rest.

The smaller ship gets sucked into the mother ship.

Even if that's not the case, the money ultimately gets put back into the US economy.

I personally know no out of work developers in the US.

 

[Dan.f]

My guess would be that the company has some patents that apple wants to get its hands on. It seems unlikely that if apple wanted to acquire a game development studio for the employees, there are a great many better web/mobile game developers they could go after.

 

[Macsterguy]

They are probably worth 150 million for what they make and 150 billion for what the knock off...

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

So why doesn't anyone think that Apple is buying the company for their technology and customer base.

Once the purchase happens, move the braintrust to the US and lay off the rest.

The smaller ship gets sucked into the mother ship.

Even if that's not the case, the money ultimately gets put back into the US economy.

I personally know no out of work developers in the US.

Manufacturing is almost non existent in the US anymore.

 

[obiwan]

I just don't understand personally. The company has 40% margins and pays the bulk of its people in America (developers etc.) Why not shell out the money and do everything here in the US, stimulate the economy, perhaps fix Apples QC issues, and maybe start a trend of bringing things back to the US.

Of course leave the blackmailing Unions out of it.

I know exactly where you're coming from - I just can't see it myself. Apple are going for world domination here. China's economy is HUGE, and if trends are to be believed China is set to overtake America's economy as the #1 economy in the world at some point in the future. I can totally see why Apple is keen to make further inroads there.

 

[kernkraft]

Im not saying they aren't. I am saying that Apple being an American company it would be nice for them to be giving some Americans jobs.

Do you know how much company stock do the Chinese have? Or American and European banks, financial institutions that are partially owned by Chinese companies?

As a public company, national borders are even less relevant. A lot of American-based pension funds own BP stocks, for example.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

I know exactly where you're coming from - I just can't see it myself. Apple are going for world domination here. China's economy is HUGE, and if trends are to be believed China is set to overtake America's economy as the #1 economy in the world at some point in the future. I can totally see why Apple is keen to make further inroads there.

I can see that happening. China is a HUGE country with a HUGE population its going to happen just a matter of time; however why not contribute to the growth of our economy. Just because you are manufacturing here doesn't mean you still can't take over the world. I think if Apple said we are moving everything to America tomorrow the government would throw incentives at them because they are a "green" company.

Do you know how much company stock do the Chinese have? Or American and European banks, financial institutions that are partially owned by Chinese companies?

As a public company, national borders are even less relevant. A lot of American-based pension funds own BP stocks, for example.

Thats fine and dandy. BP has 5 major processing facilities in my area that feed and pay the bills for 10's of thousands of Angelenos.

 

[bobrik]

I just don't understand personally. The company has 40% margins and pays the bulk of its people in America (developers etc.) Why not shell out the money and do everything here in the US, stimulate the economy, perhaps fix Apples QC issues, and maybe start a trend of bringing things back to the US.

Of course leave the blackmailing Unions out of it.

Maybe it's because I am not from the US, but I really do not see why Apple should be focusing on improving US unemployment stats rather than improving its profit. If Apple wants to generate profit, it has to produce great products and in order to do that, it has to hire the best people no matter whether they are from US or China or from Mars.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Maybe it's because I am not from the US, but I really do not see why Apple should be focusing on improving US unemployment stats rather than improving its profit. If Apple wants to generate profit, it has to produce great products and in order to do that, it has to hire the best people no matter whether they are from US or China or from Mars.

The issue the products are starting to suffer. Designed in California as all the boxes say isn't good enough for QC.

 

[NetScheduler]

Im not saying they aren't. I am saying that Apple being an American company it would be nice for them to be giving some Americans jobs.

Great idea! Then they could join a Labor Union, demand $50/hr for sitting on their asses and drinking coffee all day, call Jobs a cheap SOB when he refuses to give it to them (and make threatening calls to his family), and then walk out on the job...

Just what Apple needs!

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Great idea! Then they could join a Labor Union, demand $50/hr for sitting on their asses and drinking coffee all day, call Jobs a cheap SOB when he refuses to give it to them (and make threatening calls to his family), and then walk out on the job...

Just what Apple needs!

Or like a bulk of companies do these days... Sign a No Union claus (as my employer and many here in California do.)

 

[realgenius]

As US-based Apple Inc. is close to making the purchase of Handseeing Information Technology Co., Ltd., a mobile Internet service provider and a mobile game developer in China

I thought foreign companies were not allowed to own internet service providers in China?

 

[ChrisA]

Im not saying they aren't. I am saying that Apple being an American company it would be nice for them to be giving some Americans jobs.

Yes, wouldn't it be great to have a job building iPhones on an assembly line for minimum wage.

seriously, if you live in the US the best thing for you is that all the low-wage, low-skill jobs are outsourced to some place far away and the executive, engineer and designer jobs are all here. But over time this whole debate be become moot as the world becomes more and more homogeneous.

 

[NetScheduler]

Or like a bulk of companies do these days... Sign a No Union claus (as my employer and many here in California do.)

Pretty cool idea Num Nums. Does the clause hold up in court? Has anyone tried to challenge it and organize? Sounds like a good deal for a lot of smaller companies in my part of the country that I work with regularly..

Thanks for info..

 

[Bubba Satori]

Will Apple have to provide them with suicide nets?

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Pretty cool idea Num Nums. Does the clause hold up in court? Has anyone tried to challenge it and organize? Sounds like a good deal for a lot of smaller companies in my part of the country that I work with regularly..

Thanks for info..

It does hold up in court. California is also an At-Will state as well. Most Unions left in California are older Unions. We work with a few Unions and the workers seem to walk around with the sense of entitlement that makes me sick.

 

[NetScheduler]

It does hold up in court. California is also an At-Will state as well. Most Unions left in California are older Unions. We work with a few Unions and the workers seem to walk around with the sense of entitlement that makes me sick.

Thanks Again for the info. Not sure how it would work here in PA but will read up on it.

 

[psalazarc]

Some areas use the term "billion" for 1,000,000, and "million" for 1,000,000,000.

You know, for me it's always been kindda confusing.

In my country 1 million is 1,000,000
Then we have 10 million, a hundred million and....
A thousand million! (1,000,000,000)
Which continues to ten thousand million, and a hundred million.

Then when we get to the hypothetical "1 million million", we use the term billion.
So for us, one billion means 1,000,000,000,000
For you it's -----------------> 1,000,000,000

Then I get lost.. Is our billion your trillion? And what about our trillion?
Is there any name for it? I really don't know. I would expect it to be some kind of OMGimsorichMileyCyrusGazzilionMillionBillionTrillionCuatrillioninfiniteGod-llion... but that's just me.

 

[BEIGE]

I believe the price is actually 150 bajillion.

 

[rmwebs]

Prepare for the iWii

 

[MacKeeperFanMod]

Ginormous data center + Dropbox = Apple SOLVES its cloud woes.
Come on, Apple, buy Dropbox. not some stupid game company.

 

[mackiwilad]

The issue the products are starting to suffer. Designed in California as all the boxes say isn't good enough for QC.

Have to put in my agreement here.
Also, going back to your previous comments on manufacturing - until the U.S. realises that they can't borrow/tax/spend their way out of this recession and they have to build (manufacture) out of it, nothing will change.
Countries need to have a production base or their economy will be fundamentally weak - be it mining (like Australia), manufacturing (Germany/China) or advanced agriculture (NZ).

Having 70% of your economy in low paying, casual jobs is a recipe for disaster.
I hope the U.S. can become strong again, as like it or not the world needs a healthy U.S economy.
(Sorry for the o/t)

 

[Ping Guo]

Manufacturing is almost non existent in the US anymore.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

The US is still the world's largest manufacturer, with yearly industrial output of over $2.69 trillion. Main industries include petroleum, steel, motor vehicles, aerospace, telecommunications, chemicals, electronics, food processing, consumer goods, lumber, and mining.

In 2008 the US still had 21% of global manufacturing. In addition, the recent trend is onshoring, moving manufacturing back to the states, as Chinese wages and shipping costs have risen sharply. GE and Caterpillar are just a couple examples of companies that have brought manufacturing jobs back.

The Chinese manufacturers are dishonest and miserable to deal with and a lot of companies are realizing if you calculate total cost and not just wages, it's not worth it any more. And of course the quality is garbage. Apple bringing some manufacturing back to the States really isn't such a farfetched notion.

The quicker you industrialize, the quicker economic issues like inflation and rising labor costs kick in, which is exactly what's happening in China. That and the extreme mobility of capital and labor ends up being a double-edged sword, in the sense that it can leave as quickly as it came. They'll price themselves out of the market and a lot of manufacturing will move to Vietnam, Indonesia, India, and in some cases, back to the states.

 

[LaughingBoy48]

Maybe they would if our government didn't dictate assorted overhead costs that make it significantly cheaper to build things on the other side of the planet. At some point high minimum wages and burdensome regulations end up denying jobs to workers instead of improving them.

Apple provides jobs to Americans. See all those guys and gals running up and down the block giving high-fives and cheering whenever a new store opens.

 

[NickK1066]

$150M sounds reasonable when you consider AT&T's revenue a couple of years back was $119Bn.