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Apple needs to stop tying iOS and iPhone releases. It would have been better to have iPhone 14 run an established iOS 15. As if you get a new phone you are stuck with a buggy .0 release. This is why I never upgrade right away, I wait until March time to get the new phones.
 
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Random how it affects some and doesn't affect some. My pro max did not exhibit this issue.
The fix should prevent it from happening in the future. Most people don't have this issue.

I am curious what coding Apple has done to fix (or circumvent) the problem. Since it doesn't happen with the native camera and apps, it may have something to do with the camera or lens API?

Who knows - at least a fix will be applied and your camera should be protected!
 
Is anyone else having issues with their 14 Pro or Pro Max randomly restarting? It seems to occur only during wireless charging. Hoping this gets fixed as well in next update.
 
I am surprised at some of these issues and how it got into the wild. The copy/paste dialogue, the camera vibration issue, not being able to connect to the carrier without a phone call (T-Mobile), Facetime and Messenger messed up for some until 16.0.1 fix was applied.

Connecting to my bank and resetting a password for another app gave me grief and it is due to IOS 16. The app that wanted me to reset my password is Bublup and I couldn't do it on the phone because the screen to change the password wasn't compliant with IOS16. My bank is the same way - I can't log in because it is asking for a passcode - but it is an issue from IOS 16. Bank says to call them if it fails - I haven't done that yet.

Another strange thing is that you don't have to press a button to lock your phone anymore - but you do have to press a button (sometimes) to open your phone. Sometimes picking my phone up is responsive and I can swipe up or it lets me in with ease and other times it doesn't want to go from the dim mode and I can't swipe, touch or do anything to get it to wake up unless I hit the side button! My previous phone, I set lock the phone to never and always manually lock it. Now, I have it set to 30 seconds. I am going to have to revisit that.

We have to realize that Apple introduced enhancements and made a lot of nice changes and some of those changes are across the board between different devices - such as iPhone, Watch, and iPad.

The Photos app has finally evolved to the point I feel comfortable in actually using it, including the iCloud Photos - for me, it has always been dysfunctional with my workflow and I could never quite get the grasp of the logic - such as hide photos but if you hand your phone over to someone, they can go to the hidden folder or the deleted folder - made absolutely no sense! In IOS 16 hidden photos are just that... hidden until you put your face up to it or put your passcode in. I won't have a fear of handing my phone over to a friend to view an album anymore! I just started using iCloud Photos and absolutely love it!

Quality of video and pictures have dramatically increased in quality for me in many instances. Not so much in others, but there IS a difference. It is finally to the point that I am 100% satisfied with the quality where I don't need future phone upgrades to solve current photo or video quality issues. The iPhone 13 Pro Max sucked in most cases when using the zoom and I mean just the optical. In the iPhone 14 Pro the quality is actually as what I would expect it to be - it finally looks like a photo or video rather than a water color painting. Dramatic improvement.

The phone feels faster in some cases. I can feel a difference in speed. Apps are more responsive.

NITS - it hasn't been bright enough to really test the phone. I have never been happy with any phone out in bright daylight. We use the camera on our phone, but when it is so bright outside, it's hard to know where we are focused on and where the dang shutter button is! I am hoping that there is a dramatic improvement, but doubt it because even though Apple talked about the NITS - they didn't gush over it!! I think the only way to overcome is to have an additional screen or be in a mode that is exactly like the Kindle.
 
Just like every x.0 release there are some legitimate issues and a whole bunch of complaining about how this NEVER would have happened before.

My iPhone 12 Pro Max and 14 Pro max seem to work fine with iOS 16.0. Yeah the paste pop up is annoying. The dynamic island isn’t working perfectly. I haven’t run into the camera vibration issue because I stick with the stock camera app, but I’m sure that issue sucks too. It’ll all get fixed and the fact that it happens is normal.
 
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Hopefully, this is the iOS 16.0.2 update everyone is waiting for. iOS 16.1 is a more extensive update that add features not found in iOS 16.0 first release.
 
Is anyone else having issues with their 14 Pro or Pro Max randomly restarting? It seems to occur only during wireless charging. Hoping this gets fixed as well in next update.
I'm getting the same issue on my 14 Pro - doesn't matter which wireless charger I use. It restarts about once every five minutes while charging. It's driving me crazy in the car when trying to use GPS/Maps to get somewhere and having it restart over and over. Also, it now sometimes take multiple tries to connect a call.
 
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I'm getting the same issue on my 14 Pro - doesn't matter which wireless charger I use. It restarts about once every five minutes while charging. It's driving me crazy in the car when trying to use GPS/Maps to get somewhere and having it restart over and over. Also, it now sometimes take multiple tries to connect a call.
Same, I'm getting reboots on a Logitech 2 in 1 Qi charger, Belkin 3 in 1 MagSafe dock and Anker battery pack. Wired charging seems to be ok. Hoping next week's update fixes this too. Fortunately I am not having any camera issues but this rebooting is pretty annoying.
 
So I just tried the copy and paste depicted in that screenshot, from Discord to Messages, and it worked fine with no dialog.

How do you actually reproduce that dialog? Is it something that only happens sometimes?
I only saw the dialogue on my 13 PM on one app- the app for our local newspaper. I figured it wasn’t updated to ios 16 compatibility yet. No where else.
 
I have not noticed any battery drain issues… But the GPS not working properly was a huge problem for me today. It was a nightmare.
Mine was so bad among others I returned the device for the first time in years. Loved the new black color and the pill was neat but not worth upgrading from my 13 pro.
 
Battery drain hit first day and a half for me (12). Then, it dawned on me, after photos had churned through 15,000+ pics/vids and tagged approx 1600 duplicates via both cellular and a slow wifi, activity slowed down, the “Duplicate Photos“ folder appeared day two, I did a loooong “merge” session, the phone cooled off, and battery life went back to normal.
 
I’d like to be able to forward content to a group text without having to use ‘copy and paste’.

Not sure why that functionality was taken away.
 
Also…in messages app (disclaimer I get a lot of political fund raising pleas) now AGAIN & AGAIN when deleting a text a pop up asks if I want to report as junk to Apple and my carrier or not report and just plain delete. Dammit all I want to do is delete as I could pre-16 without the pointless step to opt in/out for every msg. Grrrrr.
 
This is now a new annoy using CloudClip app - pop up asks okay to paste from Safari? Ugh. And CloudClip is merely a stash of the clipboard - not into another active application like other people are having annoy-lights with. That’s dumb as asking “don’t allow air into lungs?” or “allow air“ while breathing — for each breath. Clearly, a way to avoid this pain in the procass requires immediate cupertino attention.

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Having a "stable" and "dev" cycle would be advantageous, yes. But probably the developer-resources required are not to be underestimated.

Also, Apple couldn't lock-out firmware-downgrades that easily anymore and I guess they'd likely introduce even more bugs trying to back-port fixes to iOS versions older than the current ones (due to sometimes big changes under the surface). I.E. if a bugfix requires a fix in a framework that didn't even exist in the previous version etc.pp.

Their internal bugzilla (or whatever they use - would be interesting to know what actually scales to their level) must be a horrible sight.
(For a glimpse of how that could look like, take a look at the issues in Open Source Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues - but probably it's much, much "worse" for iOS).

I can live with not upgrading to the latest and greatest at release-date - but then, I also don't think I've got nation-state adversaries that require me to run the latest hardware and the latest software at any given time...
Well, Nation State is not the biggest hazard, likely the Bacon State is. LOL
 
Once again I am reminded the words of wisdom, regarding software, from my mentor 3 decades ago: "No matter how great the hype, never bet on the first release."

I've never been one to be on the bleeding edge, preferring to use old software has been bug hunted to oblivion and/or with known issues that's easily bypassed. I let y'all gotta have the latest and greatest pave the way.
Life goes on. Bugs will be fixed. No need to get frothed up.
And more bugs will be introduced because programmers value job security.🙃
 
Yep, because other companies don't have problems with new releases and updates. :rolleyes:
1 - Most good companies have way fewer issues than Apple does.
2 - Most companies release fixes within minutes or hours instead of days or weeks.

The only phones I've ever owned are a 3GS, 4S, 6+, and 8+. I'm still using the 8+, but it's about time to replace it and I'm strongly considering getting my first non-iPhone.

I'm just tired of an endless barrage of bugs. There's so many of them that MR doesn't cover them all. About half of notifications simply never show up on my iPhone. No rhyme or reason. No explanation or way to debug it. Is it something in settings? Could be. Seems there's dozens of settings that could control it - it's possible I've missed a critical one or few.

Didn't Schiller have a quote like "Oh, I get it, it's a game!" when poking at Android settings about a decade ago? I can't imagine settings being any worse elsewhere than they are in the past several versions of iOS.

I'm tired of my phone failing at incredibly basic tasks. I want something that just works, and it's clear to me that Apple is no longer interested in building products that just work.
 
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Here's the difference: macOS is actually good and more open unlike iOS/iPadOS lmao
Maybe.

I switched away from macOS mostly just because of the cost. Macs cost a lot more for no particular reason.

I'll be switching away from iOS because of the endless barrage of bugs that Apple doesn't care to fix.

I'm really interested in knowing... is there a Raspberry Pi of phones? Something cheap and simple that works great out of the box, is well supported, and easy to program?
 
Maybe.

I switched away from macOS mostly just because of the cost. Macs cost a lot more for no particular reason.

Not anymore. The Macs have actually gone down in price with the transition to Apple Silicon, and the price to performance ratio of the new machines are absurdly great and crushing every PC laptop out there. You can get a M1 Macbook Air right now for around $800 used or through the Apple Refurb Store.

I'll be switching away from iOS because of the endless barrage of bugs that Apple doesn't care to fix.

I'm really interested in knowing... is there a Raspberry Pi of phones? Something cheap and simple that works great out of the box, is well supported, and easy to program?

Building a phone is a vastly different beast than a PC. Aside from the telecommunications regulation phones go through and requiring SIM to access cellular networks, phones require every individual part assembled carefully, on top of a touchscreen which don't even get me started on that.

If you want a cheap phone like that honestly just get a Samsung Galaxy A52 or something (which btw has a headphone jack unlike most phones lmao)
 
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