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I dont see at all how this is appealing in the US.

The subsidy charges are all built into the data plans anyways.

Passing on your upgrades when available, or subsidies up front with a new plan, is simply a bad deal. I absolutely guarantee that in US, you are losing and losing big on that proposition unless we are talking about a prepaid plan.

IMO, few really need the ability to switch at a moments notice, You're better off taking the upgrades as often as you can, even if your intent was to sell the new device.

All I know is that prior to getting an iphone, I was out of contract for 5 years on my old cell phone and I loved it. Just knowing you can leave a carrier if you have problems with them is very satisfying. You are paying for the luxury of taking your phone to any carrier at any time. I would pay more for an iphone to do this rather than subsidize the phone.
 
All I know is that prior to getting an iphone, I was out of contract for 5 years on my old cell phone and I loved it. Just knowing you can leave a carrier if you have problems with them is very satisfying.

Prior to my iPhone I was off contract with AT&T for **25** years. So now I have this two year "contract" with my iPhone. So what. After 25 years I'm suddenly going to switch? And I still can if I want to. The only downside is they may charge me an extra $100-125 for the device. That's insignificant compared to my annual charges over the next 5-10 years.

Want an iPhone5 when it comes out? Fine... that'll be $399 instead of $299... whoopie.

Sort of like the cable companies offering free HBO for 3 months. How does that sweeten the deal? It will cost me THOUSANDS extra over the next 10-15 years. :)
 
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Stelph said:
Im a little confused with apples implementation of tethering (why cant they make it simple?)

So iOS 4.3 can tether devices via wifi, which is fine, but the US providers make it complicated by asking you to pay extra for the tethering? How do they stop you, is the option greyed out until you pay or something?

I am in the UK using an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile UK so I am hoping this just works over here without any faff! 3 devices are plenty IMO, any more and your internet speed would crawl along, surely?

Generally not, as carrier provided settings generally use a different APN, which can only be set if your carrier allows such things.

Just because android can allow tethering for free doesn't necessarily mean you're contractually able to do so. Which also wouldn't prevent the carrier from charging you for tethering, should they be able to tell the difference (which most can)
 
Prior to my iPhone I was off contract with AT&T for **25** years. So now I have this two year "contract" with my iPhone. So what. After 25 years I'm suddenly going to switch? And I still can if I want to. The only downside is they may charge me an extra $100-125 for the device. That's insignificant compared to my annual charges over the next 5-10 years.

Want an iPhone5 when it comes out? Fine... that'll be $399 instead of $299... whoopie.

Sort of like the cable companies offering free HBO for 3 months. How does that sweeten the deal? It will cost me THOUSANDS extra over the next 10-15 years. :)

You could have gotten 10+ brand new phones over those 25 years... did you have the same phone for that long, or did you pay full price for your phones?
 
You could have gotten 10+ brand new phones over those 25 years... did you have the same phone for that long, or did you pay full price for your phones?

My dad doesn't like to sign contracts either. I don't get the advantage of having a crappy beat up phone and you pay just as much anyway.
 
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