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is it me, or does this rumor just seem like the company is caving to their shareholders..? I remember back when changes would be made if there were really good reasons for the user. Start with why...
 
Apple wouldn't bother if they didn't think many people would buy it. Look at the iPhone SE. People cant shut up about it and they discontinued that. They clearly feel a decent number of people will buy it.

Interesting; people can't shut up about wanting a headphone jack in iPhones... a headless iMac... a MacBook with a proper keyboard... etc.

Why hasn't Apple bothered with any of those things?
 
Microsoft was right all along...let's be honest.

Sure it's implementation was clumsy, but the concept of a unified singular OS that runs on multiple devices is what Microsoft envisioned.

iOS and MacOS are still separate, but moving closer with every iteration. From folders to file structure, to limited mouse support, to eventually full mouse support.

I wouldn't be surprised if one day they become one, despite claiming otherwise.
 
Microsoft was right all along...let's be honest.

Sure it's implementation was clumsy, but the concept of a unified singular OS that runs on multiple devices is what Microsoft envisioned.

iOS and MacOS are still separate, but moving closer with every iteration. From folders to file structure, to limited mouse support, to eventually full mouse support.

I wouldn't be surprised if one day they become one, despite claiming otherwise.
What MS got right was that different ways of interacting with a "laptop" (ie: KB, mouse, trackpad, touch, stylus, voice, etc.) is the way forward. But what Apple got right and MS got wrong was that people much prefer doing this on an intuitive mobile OS vs a complex traditional desktop OS. That's not to say that nobody wants the latter. Just that a lot more people prefer the former.
 
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Interesting; people can't shut up about wanting a headphone jack in iPhones... a headless iMac... a MacBook with a proper keyboard... etc.

Why hasn't Apple bothered with any of those things?

To back to your original point, because they are in the minority.
 
Due to how expensive these iPads are now I’m assuming most 2018 Pro owners would likely not upgrade for an incremental refresh. However, this would be a brilliant way to extract another $200 out of many of us.
I actually replaced my 10.5" iPad Pro as of yesterday with a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro in spite of all of the rumors. I don't see how another processor upgrade and better cameras benefits my use case (medical school) than a discounted 2018 12.9" iPad Pro. I bought 2 actually-one for me and one for my wife, and got both with new Pencils for $2200. A comparable set up for the new iPad Pros, whenever they are announced, will likely have cost north of $3,000. I want to see expanded functionality of iPadOS to utilize more of the already overkill iPad Pro performance.
 
There's an article over at The Verge regarding this rumor and someone posted a great comment that I think hits home with respect to Apple's goal with this rumored accessory

"Apple is transitioning to an iPad future. It’s clear that the iPad (as in the entire line) is what Apple wants people to use as an everyday PC. It can accomplish about 95% of tasks for 95% of people. For those that can get by with an iPad, it’s a great device. A keyboard and trackpad, along with proper OS support for a cursor (not the accessible version they have now), would help bridge the gap further. There will still always be people that have their niche uses who want something like a MacBook Pro, Wintel Workstation, gaming desktop, etc.

Apple has been pushing for the iPad to replace their consumer-level notebooks for a while now and their hardware is getting to a point where it can. The OS just needs to back it up by adding more traditional options like full windowed app experiences, better support for external displays, better mouse support, and a few other usability aspects that would put an iPad more on-par with a notebook. I have no doubt that Apple’s consumers PCs will be replaced by iPads. It won’t happen now or in the next couple of years but it will eventually happen. I’m not a fan of their current approach (want a PC? Buy a Mac. Want a touchscreen? Buy an iPad and spend $2000+ on everything) but I could get behind having one consumer-level device with all the usability of an iPad and practicality of a notebook."

The one thing I don't agree with this comment is that the iPad won't get full windowed experiences like the Mac. The iPad will, and should, be relegated to full-screen experiences, not the multi-windowed experiences of the Mac.

 
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This is great news for shareholders, too. This new keyboard is going to be expensive and tons of people are going to buy it when it launches (and sell their MacBooks on Facebook). Eventually they’ll realize that iOS and macOS are meant to be different and then need to buy another MacBook. This obviously doesn’t apply to people on macrumors, though.
 
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Frankly, i'll believe it when I see it.

But it makes sense. There have be complaints that the software is greatly lagging behind the hardware. Ironically, this will give software a huge boost. Almost sneaky :D
 
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What MS got right was that different ways of interacting with a "laptop" (ie: KB, mouse, trackpad, touch, stylus, voice, etc.) is the way forward. But Apple got right and MS got wrong was that people much prefer doing this on an intuitive mobile OS vs a complex traditional desktop OS. That's not to say that nobody wants the latter. Just that a lot more people prefer the former.

It was more than just different ways to interact, but a common OS regardless whether it was mobile or desktop.

Naturally with the success of the iPhone, Apple focused it's resources on iOS.
Now, with the success of the iPad, it feels like Apple is playing catchup to make iOS a fully functional desktop OS.
 
It was more than just different ways to interact, but a common OS regardless whether it was mobile or desktop.

Naturally with the success of the iPhone, Apple focused it's resources on iOS.
Now, with the success of the iPad, it feels like Apple is playing catchup to make iOS a fully functional desktop OS.
And Microsoft keeps trying to make Windows less kludgey as a tablet system.
 
I hate trackpads on regular laptops already, and the trackpad will be 5 INCHES from a screen that ALREADY HAS TOUCH INTERFACE!

Seriously though, I would just love to see a better mouse option for ADA and for the microscopic number of times I personally have ever thought "boy it would be nice to be able to use a mouse for this task on my iPad."
 
And Microsoft keeps trying to make Windows less kludgey as a tablet system.
Yes, hence Windows 10X which is MS' version of, or answer to, iPadOS.
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It was more than just different ways to interact, but a common OS regardless whether it was mobile or desktop.

Naturally with the success of the iPhone, Apple focused it's resources on iOS.
Now, with the success of the iPad, it feels like Apple is playing catchup to make iOS a fully functional desktop OS.
If the rumored ARM Mac is true, then Apple will eventually have a common OS (or more precisely a common OS core) across mobile & desktop. The only difference will be the UI layer.
 
Apple got touch RIGHT. But they kept it limited to iPhone until iPadOS, probably because of necessity (small screen).

I agree with those here that state that Microsoft got the unified experience right, it's just that Apple did touch much better.

Even Microsoft employees admitted that the iPhone caught them with their pants down. However, their clumsy touch hybrid sucks.

All I want is an iPadOS that can also have a cursor when connecting a mouse or trackpad, WITHOUT changing the touch UX requirements and finger-sized targets.

The cursor would be there for when you're accessing cross-platform scenarios like desktop Websites or when editing/entering text.
 
My favourite part of the iPad Pro experience (current gen 12.9 right now) is the always-on LTE functionality. Grab it, go, open. No need to hunt for wifi or tether or whatever. Open keyboard, reply email, close keyboard. Takes seconds. No Macbook can give me that.

I'm surprised Apple hasn't given it's MacBooks LTE. It would go a long way in adding needed value to a premium product.

I don't doubt part of the iPad Pro's current surge in popularity is in some part due to being approx. $200 cheaper and yet faster, than a MBP13.
 
They do. In fact, the “Developer kit” for ARM will likely be your choice of Apple TV with keyboard/mouse, or ipad with keyboard/trackpad.
if that’s the case, then we would see benchmarks and developer feed on the software running on ARM almost immediately.
 
Why can’t it just be a sensor so hold an activation key down and then just air swipe around just above the keyboard. Surely we don’t need a physical trackpad.
 
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