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Apple to Release New Apple TV Remote App for iOS With Full Siri Functionality in First Half of 2016
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I'm not going to blame accountants or profit mongering, but the AppleTV is a certainly a good example of the decreasing value that Apple it providing to customers with it's products. Sure, we're still buying it, but Apple is no longer the Panacea of technology solutions that we fell in love with.
With multitasking on the phone, i don't see how difficult is to switch back and forward, 1 device can do it all, with same speed and same easy of use
With multitasking on the phone, i don't see how difficult is to switch back and forward, 1 device can do it all, with same speed and same easy of use
The iPhone goes to sleep so if you're going to be using it as your primary remote, you have to constantly wake it up. You can't use it without looking at it.
Regardless, from other posts I now understand that folks like you are using the iPhone itself as your interface, not as a remote, because you only want to stream your local content to the tv. If that's the case, though, it seems to me the new Apple TV was a waste of money for you since you;re not using any of its features.
I agree that Plex is a great solution, it is simply a fantastic product, but you missed the point. If I need to find a third party software solution to tack on top of the AppleTV software, then the AppleTV has just become a piece of commodity hardware, and is there any reason I shouldn't just get a Roku or XBox that also have Plex and plus other features that AppleTV doesn't offer? I mentioned earlier that I'm not anywhere close to abandoning my all Apple house, but the AppleTV is indicative of some things going wrong at the mothership.
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I don't think he said "dedicated". I think his point was about being able to pair a bluetooth keyboard with the "4" so that when there is keyboard entry, it's easier than the one-letter-at-a-time UI. And I agree with the idea given the necessity of having to register for every individual app instead of being able to have that managed behind the scenes via maybe a one-time log-in with the iTunes user name & password. Why do I need to identify my TV service provider over and over? Why do I need to authenticate each app with my TV service provider over and over? Etc.
You make a good point, but with Plex addressing my Home Sharing needs, I still find value in the Apple TV for specific channels like HBO and Netflix plus a smattering of games. And that's in addition to previously existing features like Airplay. Also the Plex app for Apple TV is by far the best interface available for accessing Plex.
I have no interest in Roku and it will be a cold day in hell before you find an Xbox in my home, lol.
I like to watch baseball, and the occasional NFL game. But I refuse to be extorted into buying a $40, $50 or $100 per month package of useless cable/satellite crap to watch my local baseball team, or the odd NFL game that's only broadcast on ESPN. If MLB wants to offer me a package that allows me to watch in-market games I'll listen. But the days of my paying for a bundle of crap channels being fed to me through a fire hose are done.
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That wasn't his point and you know it. His point, obviously, was that making the extremely fragile is a questionable design decision given that this device usually goes in a living space. I also have carpet where my ATV is, but in my case I have young kids. His point still holds.
Perhaps it would cost you the same but a dollar less profit would be made. As for the carpet, you're being snarky. Sure carpet is softer but not everyone wants a floor cover that traps dust. I prefer wood flooring for the look and ease of cleaning.
If you didn't care, you wouldn't have commented. Complaining about people complaining about complainers. Classic.
Only in select stores should be added in a wisper if full Siri Remote functionality is what is given.
It sounds like it's time for me to get serious about using Plex. It does look like it's come a long way since its earlier days when I initially investigated it. It just makes me frustrated that Apple could give me that same functionality with minimal effort and just won't/don't/haven't. I've enjoyed not having to rely on third-party products to keep my media managed and synced across all my devices and locations.
Like eroyce, I'm not ready to abandon my all-Apple setup just yet, but it looks like it's time to start hedging my bets and consider a future where Apple is just a commodity in the chain, and not the whole solution. They keep straying further and further from my use-cases/wants.
Gentlemens bet: Read my quote again and find any indication that I complained. Also, who said something about caring? What I said and what you think I said are unrelated. Your inner monologue betrayed you. I pointed out the irony of complaining about complainers. That it. Never said I liked it, disliked, or felt indifferent about.
I complain about stuff all the time. This just wasn't one of those times.
In a few countries this is true, but for those without any Siri support on AppleTv the best input device is a full keyboard.
Once the Amazon Prime Video app lands on the new Apple TV, I'll get one. I've got a Roku box from 2010 that is on its last leg. The only thing we still use it for is Prime Video. Everything else we do streaming-wise is on the ATV 3. I'll move the ATV 3 to the guest room and replace the aging Roku with the new ATV.
One could take your argument and extend it to the iPhone, iPad and Mac. Of course, it would be just as absurd in the context of those devices as it is with the ATV.
In fact, the ATV4 is a sign that the ATV initiative at Apple is finally in the fold as a real, "non-hobby" product. Instead of a basically closed ecosystem that was withering on the vine because of slow adoption of any new useful apps, lack of some of the big player apps, and hardware/functionality limitations the new ATV is bringing the vibrance of the Apple App Store experience to the Apple TV. And in 4 weeks since its release it has become a much more relevant player in the streaming market because of it, along with the excellent UI provided by Siri functionality, and several other hardware/software upgrades.
On top of the potential for rapid deployment of new and useful apps you have the integration of the ATV4 into your all Apple house to set it apart from any of the other options out there. I would argue that the ATV4 has actually increased the reason for putting an ATV in an all Apple house, not decreased them. In fact, there was a better argument for having a Roku or Xbox rather than an ATV in an otherwise all Apple house 4 months ago than there is now.
I was furious when I first learned that the new Apple TV had not made any improvements to Home Sharing and excluded it from universal search and Siri functionality. It's clear that today's Apple is increasingly motivated by profit and less by delighting its customers. I don't see things getting any better, but I'm not in a rush to jump ship to any of their competitors. But I'm certainly not going to spend a dime on any DRM'd content from Apple nor create any important dependencies on any of their apps or services.
Searching within an app
The new TV is app driven so more user names and passwords then previous TV
Nice to have if you are just looking in a search. Annoying talking to Siri at times
To your point, the new TV features will greatly reduce the need for a keyboard once Siri gets fully functional and the apps progress in intelligence.
The at4 is a vast improvement over the at3. They should have released an app store years ago, as that is what makes the product functional for most people. You may say its an excellent ui provided by siri functionality, but most markets do not have siri currently, even if they have country specific siri for their phones.
Either rapid deployment of new and useful apps is not happening, or most markets are missing out on the availability.
AT4 is still great, and running plex off my NAS box improves the experience enormously. Now if I could get a few more apps.
I am mystified as to what makes a Macrumors forum member the arbiter of what "they should have done" years ago.
There are over 2,000 apps available on the app store right now, and that is approximately 1,000 more than were available at the beginning of November. Are you saying that there aren't any useful apps among those? If so, would you be so kind as to provide your detailed analysis of those apps to those of us who aren't as "in the know" as you?