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I'm all for removal of ethernet port but for one reason..

I have MBP for past 3 years and only time I use ethernet port is when my internet stops working and customer care ask me to hookup my macbook to the modem.

How does Apple expect everyone to setup their new wifi device...I think it comes down to paying $50 bucks more for the adapter the way I read it.

$50 bucks to apple for an adapter costing $10. If their margins for the macs are high like 40% their adapter prices are close to 300-500%. And dongles get lost all the time, or forgotten, make for nice visits to the local apple store at the city you are having a conference in and need ethernet, and a 400% margin purchase at the apple store as well as chance to bring wify or gfriend along to bust your balls to get her the new ipad or ipod touch as a gift.

Apple is all about corporate marketing and greed these days. More so than ever. People shouldn't think for a second that they are not only keenly aware of the scenario I described but they have intentionally planned it that way.

How many of us lose or forget dongles, especially ones you carry around (most of us), how many of us will be in an ethernet only scenario where we 'll just have to access the network having lost or forgotten said dongle and will have to take a stroll down to the local apple shrine (sorry store) or reseller many times on holiday with family where not only will we pay them the inordinate amount for it but they ll be able to excite family members for a little gift off the store.

These are all very calculated, statistically analyzed and organized to a "t" marketing tactics. Computer wise of course they make absolutely no sense, a notebook does not HAVE to be 1 millimeter thinner for any compelling reason, ethernet is the most ubiquitous industry standard after usb that's in no way phased out and it's a necessity to almost all professionals, a rev. 1 notebook with such a demanding screen doesn't benefit in it's all important thermals for being 1mm thinner it's taxed even more. This has nothing to do with computers or your customers' needs, it's all about how to squeeze every buck you can out of people, it's marketing greed. And apple are keenly aware they are in such a market position that they can milk most people for anything they got. They should be careful though it doesn't come back to bite them in the *** at some point.
 
I'm realistic. No ethernet, No ODD, SSD's standard and yes... even a thinner body. This is no surprise and anyone thinking the evolution of the MBP line would be otherwise is quite naive.

That said... if this "thing" is sealed like the Air then I have no choice but to move on to freaking Windows 8 and the best MacBook knockoff I can find.

God help me. :eek:

Now that's a valid concern. I do hope that it isn't sealed and that memory and HDD are user upgradeable.
 
1997: OMG WTF Apple no Floppy drive!? You guys are doomed.

2008: OMG WTF Apple no optical drive!? Apple has lost it

2010: OMG WTF Apple no flash support!? This will never succeed

2012: OMG WTF Apple no Ethernet!? Apple no longer makes professional machines.



People never change. I'm sure Apple will have a solution for people that absolutely need Ethernet, and it will work seamlessly. So let's just wait til Apple announces the thing before grabbing the pitchforks.

OMG Apologist much?
 
I think the form factor will be different than just a regular Macbook Pro on a diet. Plus I think it'll be slimmer than the mock-up.
 
Let's see... They are gonna announce these things in WWDC -- iPhone 5, new MacBook Pro, new iMac, iOS 6, Mountain Lion.... exciting, but it's like having too much good food for one meal. :)
 
1997: OMG WTF Apple no Floppy drive!? You guys are doomed.

2008: OMG WTF Apple no optical drive!? Apple has lost it

2010: OMG WTF Apple no flash support!? This will never succeed

2012: OMG WTF Apple no Ethernet!? Apple no longer makes professional machines.



People never change. I'm sure Apple will have a solution for people that absolutely need Ethernet, and it will work seamlessly. So let's just wait til Apple announces the thing before grabbing the pitchforks.

Oh I think Apple will be fine. Until they manage to turn the vast majority of people against them, most consumers will still buy the Macbook pros regardless of what Apple does. The Apple brand is powerful and as long as something as got Apple on it, it's instantly popular and expected to do well. I don't like the direction that Apple is taking it though, and personally, I will probably have to switch to a PC if the 2012 model doesn't have a ethernet port.
 
Honestly, who needs ethernet anyway. Now that we have 802.11ac coming out, there's no need for a tethered connection at all. I do like the idea of losing a superdrive to add a BTO HDD/SSD combo :)
 
FINALLY!!! Some SOLID news about this, FINALLY, FINALLY!!!!

I have been waiting my whole entire life for this!!

Well, just a few loooong months at least.

You can say I love Mac news. It's like a party.

Wow...:confused:
 
SHUT UP ABOUT THE ETHERNET!

This is the best Mac news day in a LONG TIME!

I also don't know why so many are making such a big thing out of the missing ethernet port. I'm sure Apple will include a USB Ethernet dongle with perhaps an integrated USB port so you don't lose a port.

The vast majority of users don't need one anyway, so I don't get all of the hoopla over the (possibly) missing port.
 
A 15" MacBook Pro with a retina display would be a dream come true. I would love to get one of these and retire my 2009 MBP, but I'm a little leary about buying this design as a first-gen.

Either way this is awesome news!

Also, personally I couldn't care less about the lack of an ethernet port... however, I can see how some people that use their MBP as their primary workstation computer would be annoyed at this. They would probably want their computer hardwired instead of picking up a WiFi signal from their router that's sitting 6 inches away.
 
I can't wait to see what they do with the 13" form factor (either the air or the pro). A 13" with retina display would be a perfect replacement for my 15" 2009 MBP.
 
This would be a beautiful time for apple to provide options
where for the macbook13 you can have in the CD Space

A) extended battery
B) A Secondary Hard Drive
C) A GFX Card

Option C Sound sfar Fetched but I believe the Mac Mini comes with or without 3rd Party GFX
 
Honestly, who needs ethernet anyway. Now that we have 802.11ac coming out, there's no need for a tethered connection at all. I do like the idea of losing a superdrive to add a BTO HDD/SSD combo :)

Wrong. A wireless connection will never EVER be as secure as ethernet, and for people who might have to use it in places where they aren't allowed to have a wireless connection or don't like to because of the inherent latency of using a wireless connection as opposed to a wired, this is pretty much lose-lose, especially since it means I would have to carry around yet another adapter just to use it. Two if they do away with Firewire.
 
On the other hand. Most people who use MBP with WiFi only connection could probably live with iPads (because you are talking mostly FB, e-mail and web browsing).
You have an extremely narow minded view. You have no idea what you are talking about.

And what would you have me transfer the data from my old computer over to the new Macbook Pro with? Oh, I suppose blowing $50 on a new thunderbolt cable is much better than using an old ethernet or firewire cord I have stowed away.

A few millimeters of height on a laptop < Ethernet port.
Your argument is just as short sighted as someone saying that they won't pay for blank CDs or DVDs and just want to use their floppy disks. Or, why should I have to go out and buy a new firewire 800 cable. USB 3.0? You mean I have to buy a new flash drive!? Dinosaurs went extinct you know? Adapt.

We'll have to wait and see, but this doesn't sound too good. IMO Pro users care more about functionality and flexibility, than battery life, size or weight... for all other uses, there's a MBA.

I hope they don't take out the ethernet port, firewire or user replaceable drives (by using the same memory as the MBA). Without that it is not a Pro machine anymore - but a simple 15" macbook air.
I'm a "pro" (Because the term is so open to interpretation. I'm a law student, and obviously a future lawyer. The idea that this is not a "professional" use of the computer is absurd) user and battery life in particular is extremely important to me. I carry my laptop with me pretty much all day so the less it weighs is a big deal. I don't think I ever need ethernet, but if I ever do I will buy an adapter.

wow the new macbook pros are fast but:
no ethernet port=fail
no ODD=fail not every software company in the world downloads there software too there costumers & whats goin to take up the ODD's spot
flash memory=???? faster boot ups but can you replace them yaself??
Software companies that can't get on board with digital distribution will fall. Flat out. Digital distribution is the future. Adapt or die.

I need the ethernet.

For example, at my health care system, wireless access is limited to people who already have the credentialing and user information set up. If you don't, you have to use the ethernet to tap into the network in order to access the intranet and applications.
Adapter should work...You don't even seem to need gigabit.

For me, I like the simplicity of a wired connection. If I want to turn things off, I don't have to navigate through menues and stuff, I can just physically disconnect the hard-line to my computer.

I also feel it's more secure. Whenever I can, I keep my wi-fi turned off because I don't want people tracking or accessing my computer wirelessly. So I do my internet browsing (which occasionally consists of sensitive things like accessing money) and all that through the closed, wired connection. It's also a little faster and in my experience more consistent than wi-fi.

I still use wi-fi, of course, but for them to take away such a useful feature just for a few millimeters of space seems ridiculous. If I want a laptop without ethernet, I'll buy a high-end Macbook Air.
Guess what. If you use an adapter, all those "benefits" you like would still happen. You can still physically unplug it. You can still think its faster. You can still have it be more consistent. You can still be paranoid. It amazes me that this is an argument against the removal of the port.
 
Macs I've owned:
2001 - PowerBook G4 TiBook
2006 - PowerBook G4 1.67 Ghz
2007 - MacBook Pro 8600M GT
2010 - MacBook Pro Unibody Core i7 2.66

I use the DVD burner almost every day on my computer. At my store we burn memory cards to disc for travelers. I refuse to carry around an external DVD for this purpose.

I use Ethernet infrequently -- several times per year -- but those few times when I need to use it are CRITICAL, such as reconfiguring a WiFi router at my business.

If they can shave 2 pounds from the weight, or even 1 pound, that is excellent. I am sure that the kind of nerds who come to this forum and who work at Apple rarely (if ever) use DVD or ethernet. Great.

However many of us in the real world (most of whom have never heard of macrumors.com and are too busy working to waste time on forums) rely upon technologies that are established, ubiquitous standards like DVD and ethernet because everyone has them.

The usefulness of a portable computer, to me, is contingent upon its ability to be a Swiss Army Knife of sorts. It needs to be able to interact with any situations that I might be confronted with as a professional photographer, as a small business owner, as a retail store manager, as an IT consultant, etc.

I am aware that external optical drives are now available that are compact and run off the USB bus. However that's one more THING to carry around, get broken, etc. I would prefer to have it "all-in-one" -- to me that's the point of a "desktop replacement" such as MacBook Pro.

Perhaps they will also have a thunderbolt-to-ethernet adapter or USB-to-ethernet adapter... one more THING to keep track of, which if you accidentally leave it at home, and the job calls for you to need it, now you are SCREWED.

Client wants all the photos burned to DVD. Oops, forgot DVD burner at home, or it's broken from floating around in my bag, etc. SCREWED.

Client needs Linksys WiFi router reconfigured. Oops, forgot ethernet dongle adapter. SCREWED.

I tell client, "Get with the times. You are so 2007." Never hear from client again. SCREWED.

I tell client, "Apple is a forward-thinking company, and your reliance on DVD and ethernet is quaint and laughable." Never hear from client again. Get bad review from client on Google. SCREWED.

Please, Apple, continue to offer the MacBook Pro in a DVD+ethernet configuration. I don't care if you also offer a MacBook Air Pro... fine, whatever... just don't screw over your long-time customers who need a professional tool that has these core, ubiquitous, standard technologies built-in.

Thank you.

Sounds like there is absolutely no reason for you to need to buy the newest model. A 2010 MacBook Pro is more than capable of burning DVDs and configuring routers. Why worry yourself over this?
 
I use the Firewire port DAILY, and so do a lot of other people I know. It's essential for a lot of post-production jobs where everyone trades FW drives back and forth. Losing it would be a HUGE disappointment, especially because there's no cheap/simple Thunderbolt>Firewire dongle out there.

There is no cheap TB-FW adapter, but there are FW-USB adapters. It only stands to reason that a FW-USB 3.0 adapter could be developed.

With USB 3.0 being supported by Ivy Bridge, it seems unlikely that it wouldn't be included on new Macs. Products get developed when there is a need for them. In this case, and with Ethernet-USB 3.0, there would be a definite need. We'll see them developed, and probably quite quickly.

Assuming USB 3.0 is there, FW 800 becomes obsolete. Thunderbolt is a superior connection, but it's still too little used and expensive to really compare it to FW. USB 3.0 is a more realistic option for these adapters.
 
But honestly, I'm just as mesmerized to see the extent to which people are willing to justify hanging on to useless antiquated technologies. People resist change by any means necessary and come up with elaborate nonsense to rationalize themselves. Just look at the extent to which people are claiming adapters would not be a sufficient solution.

I am sorry but the only one I see rationalizing here is yourself. :) A useless antiquated technology is the world's standard networking protocol and port? If it's so antiquated what has superseded it? There's nothing even in the horizon about to supersede ethernet in terms of wired networking. Wifi isn't even a consideration in pretty much all corporate, university, small business, conference hall etc. etc. networks, as an adjunct maybe, as a way to connect with any guaranteed reliability, security and speed and do real work (as you would with a pro device like a mbp) it's not even close. If you take your mac to work and access a server as almost everyone working in a corporate, uni or small business environment does you will use ethernet, period. You might get away with wifi sometimes, but your standard practice will be to just wire the computer.


And you are talking about "useless, antiquated technology"? Do you realize, and I am saying this in all good will, what absolute non-sense your are talking just because you apparently like apple so much? Do you realize how close you are to apple claiming the earth is called mars and it's red and you going yeah sure why not.:)
 
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knowing that at some point Apple would eventually nix the built-in ODD from their notebooks, I've been gradually getting myself used to using external flash drives or other detachable storage so that when the switch finally happens, I'll be able to upgrade without being crippled by the lack of CD/DVD drive. lack of ethernet port would be a non-issue for me since I only ever connect to the internet via wireless, and I have a Seagate GoFlex external HDD (connected via Firewire at the moment) which came with a USB 3 cable, so I'd be ready on that front as well... on the flip side, the main draws for me would be the Retina display and Ivy Bridge processor with vastly improved graphics, either of which would be a definite upgrade from my current Sandy Bridge MBP.

all of this to say that a year ago, I would've balked at the idea of buying a notebook sans ODD/ethernet/Firewire, but this time around, I'll prepared for the transition if/when it happens :).
 
i use my dvd drive, every few days when i watch a dvd or import a cd.

my only issue with flash, is that i will be limited on my storage.
at the moment i have 750GB hard drive, and its over half full.
and i could easily fill the 750.

i just don't like the idea of have limits placed on my mac,

You don't have limits placed on your mac past what limits you set for yourself. There is a reason why they are pushing the Thunderbolt connection and it is so people can have a host of external options they can connect to their Mac with fast data transfers.

Most people do not the use the dvd drive that often and for those that do you buy an external USB slimline one. The same thing with the storage, buy a couple terabyte external hard drive and keep only the files you need to stay mobile with on your SSD which you can still hold a lot on a 256GB-512GB SSD.
 
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