Had you read past the first two sentences of my post, you would have seen that is exactly what I said.
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Had you read past the first two sentences of my post, you would have seen that is exactly what I said.
I am sorry but the only one I see rationalizing here is yourself.A useless antiquated technology is the world's standard networking protocol and port?
I had more in mind than simply the port. I was thinking about the Optical drive too, but yes, for the most part, ethernet isn't needed and cumbersome.
This is where I disagree. Wifi is more than sufficient for the overwhelming majority of corporate, university, small business, and conference hall tasks. You can stream 1080p powerpoint presentations and video on Wifi without a hitch.
Again, in my experience this simply doesn't hold true anymore. Now, I will grant there are instances where you need to move huge files across the server, but in those cases Ethernet adapters are more than sufficient. The only decent point you've made is that adapters are easily lost, misplaced, etc. But then I'd recommend you simply become more organized and responsible. I've never lost or misplaced my adapters and I'd imagine this is a fairly rare occurrence for most people. You also mentioned the high costs of the Apple adapters, but there are plenty of cheap third-party alternatives, so again I don't think this point merits much consideration.
Yes, and I hope you realize I am conversing in good will as well. We just disagree, which makes conversation possible in the first place.
, what absolute non-sense your are talking just because you apparently like apple so much? Do you realize how close you are to apple claiming the earth is called mars and it's red and you going yeah sure why not.
I like Apple because they tend to deliver what I want. I see nothing wrong in that.
No, it means you're forced to shell out for a USB to Ethernet dongle.
I swear to god what is with you complainers.
Yup, I thought 60 dislikes earlier was crazy, but this blows that outta the water!
Why? Isn't this supposed to be the beauty of a free market? If you need some to do X, and its possible to provide X, then someone will sell you X? Don't you want to be sold what you want? Curious attitude you have.
By forcing people to buy usb-ethernet adapter, I'm yet again forced to buy 1 such adapter. No I will probably buy 3 for home/office/road.
After just dumping boxes of old adapters of various kind and reminding myself how ungreen it was of me to do so, here I am being forced to do buy adapters AGAIN.
After just dumping boxes of old adapters of various kind and reminding myself how ungreen it was of me to do so, here I am being forced to do buy adapters AGAIN.
Here are the first two sentences of your post:
Wifi is replacing ethernet. Less and less people require ethernet each year.
What that has to do with the fact that they aren't removing ethernet compatibility from the laptop, just the port (it's still available via a USB adapter) is beyond me.
Apple Thunderbolt Display includes ethernet adapter/port via Thunderbolt. Look it up. So by removing ethernet from laptop case, you can get ethernet option (people still used ethernet alot) either by buying a dongle or getting Apple Thunderbolt Display.
Agreed...haven't used mine in years either. Been waiting since 07' with my white MacBook for this upgrade. Long awaited and very exciting. Will be getting 2x 15" pros for the wife and I. June 11th hurry up!
Um, I think people would choose to use the dongle over putting a ATD on their desk just to get at the ethernet port. The post I quoted said users would be "forced" to buy a ATD for ethernet access, which obviously is nonsense.
Apple was built on satisfying demands of complainers. People who complained about windows.
Along with the (lack of) GPU power for it.uhhhhhh hellooooooo? Retina Display in a notebook? Why is no one here excited by this possibilty?
Yeah apple's not forcing people to buy ATD over dongle. Most will probably buy dongle. But in the process, Apple will sell a little more ATD, because some just hate dongle.
And I DON'T want another DONGLE in my bag or on my desk.
I love how removal of the ethernet port leads people to think it's all a conspiracy to sell more adapters, lol. Are you all that cynical? Sure, it's a nice side-effect for the company, but if you look at the mock ups, it makes oodles of sense. Why limit the form factor of your entire device because a legacy port is getting in the way? Laptops are shrinking every year; people want small and light. Just comparing the Air to the MBP makes the MBP look goliath in size. I'm not saying it isn't another reason for the company to ditch it, but I don't think they approached it from the standpoint of "how can we sell more adapters." They're making hundreds of billions of dollars by selling iPhones to China.
Conspiracy or not, apple will make millions from selling adapters. many will buy more than 1 for home/office. many will be lost. And all that means more ewaste.
You're telling me you'd rather spend $1,000 on a ATD (and put that on your desk somewhere to rot) than buy a $50 dongle because you "don't like dongles?"
Nice. When do you think the company will be fully doomed? Wanna make sure i sell my stocks before it happens!
I don't deny that... I just doubt it was the main motivator to ditch the ethernet port (which is what some seem to be implying).
A lot of people are saying, "adapter for gigabit ethernet", but they do realize how un-apple like that would be right? Not to mention the additional premium you have to pay for what these people consider basic functionality (well, ok, that is very apple-ish).
I don't see why they would have to remove the ethernet port from the 15". If you're buying a 15", there's a very good likelihood that you're buying it for work reasons (unless you're one of "those" guys that likes to pay a premium for a mac gaming machine...). The slight reduction in weight/thickness does not offset the removal of ethernet in this instance. In the case of the 13", I think the argument is better for the removal of ethernet, but the 15"?
I think it's ok to minimize and remove unnecessary components, even if techies disagree with it, when your machine isn't being targeted towards professional users. When your primary audience are professional users however, it really should be functionality first...yes, even at the cost of some design/marketing nonsense.
If you're a consumer (or "prosumer", whatever that means) and you're happy with your apple products, that's fine, no one is faulting you for that. You have to look at it from the other side of the fence though, and this includes the people who do in fact use their machines primarily for work, but aren't affected by this. This isn't like the ODD issue, where trends are obviously pointing towards their "extinction", this is something that legitimately affects anyone who works on a private network at work where security and/or performance has any kind of relevance.
EDIT: Btw, the removal of ethernet doesn't affect me at all, so I'm not saying this out of some self-centered whining. I do however, know a lot of professionals who would be negatively affected by this.
I don't see why they would have to remove the ethernet port from the 15". If you're buying a 15", there's a very good likelihood that you're buying it for work reasons (unless you're one of "those" guys that likes to pay a premium for a mac gaming machine...). The slight reduction in weight/thickness does not offset the removal of ethernet in this instance. In the case of the 13", I think the argument is better for the removal of ethernet, but the 15"?
I think it's ok to minimize and remove unnecessary components, even if techies disagree with it, when your machine isn't being targeted towards professional users. When your primary audience are professional users however, it really should be functionality first...yes, even at the cost of some design/marketing nonsense.
If you're a consumer (or "prosumer", whatever that means) and you're happy with your apple products, that's fine, no one is faulting you for that. You have to look at it from the other side of the fence though, and this includes the people who do in fact use their machines primarily for work, but aren't affected by this. This isn't like the ODD issue, where trends are obviously pointing towards their "extinction", this is something that legitimately affects anyone who works on a private network at work where security and/or performance has any kind of relevance.
EDIT: Btw, the removal of ethernet doesn't affect me at all, so I'm not saying this out of some self-centered whining. I do however, know a lot of professionals who would be negatively affected by this.
I wish they'd make a fat model. I don't care how slim it is, I'd much prefer healthier innards!
Upsetting, but I bet I'll buy it anyway at some point.
Upsetting, but I bet I'll buy it anyway at some point.