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Apple to Release Thinner MacBook Pro at WWDC
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That's great! I'm looking forward to this, and to new iMac's 
Please have used the 7750/70 and/or 7850/7870 in the MacBook Pro's, and the 7850/7870 and the 7970 in the iMac's. (Mobility, of course.) The 7970M is an underclocked desktop 7870, the latter trumpting the GTX 580 in some instances.
I can already see myself dancing around like a nut singing GTX 580 in my iMac! GTX 580 in my iMac!
Please have used the 7750/70 and/or 7850/7870 in the MacBook Pro's, and the 7850/7870 and the 7970 in the iMac's. (Mobility, of course.) The 7970M is an underclocked desktop 7870, the latter trumpting the GTX 580 in some instances.
I can already see myself dancing around like a nut singing GTX 580 in my iMac! GTX 580 in my iMac!
Seems with Apple, the solution is to use the Airport Utility on your iphone.
And based on a lot of comments, everyone just has a magically pre-configured wi-fi network.
I tried that but people kept stealing my laptop case so I kept having to buy new adapters, and only the Apple ones are acceptable with my Mac. I tried the other ones, but I found the drivers consumed too many CPU cycles.
Yeah, $30 is nothing when you can spend $1000+ on a laptop. But it's funny when you can get ethernet built in for no additional cost last year, and suddenly you have to spend extra for an adapter this year. I'm pretty sure the new MBP wouldnt get any cheaper just because it has no more Ethernet port.
It's not about spend extra $30 for a $1000 laptop. Of course people could afford it. But it's nice to have something built in rather than messing around with bunch of adapters.
I hope they include a discrete GPU for all MBP models...
Thinking of a Macbook PRO without 1) Ethernet (for actual FAST data transfer), 2) upgradeable storage (if they're going Air-style SSD, goodbye upgradeable parts), 3) no GPU... They better remove the "Pro" tag from this machine.
I'm more worried about non-upgradeable RAM memory tbh. The price they ask for more RAM is obscene and it's one of the few things you can still upgrade in most Apple computers by yourself. :\
Thinking of a Macbook PRO without 1) Ethernet (for actual FAST data transfer), 2) upgradeable storage (if they're going Air-style SSD, goodbye upgradeable parts), 3) no GPU... They better remove the "Pro" tag from this machine.
I'm more worried about non-upgradeable RAM memory tbh. The price they ask for more RAM is obscene and it's one of the few things you can still upgrade in most Apple computers by yourself. :\
Seems with Apple, the solution is to use the Airport Utility on your iphone.
And based on a lot of comments, everyone just has a magically pre-configured wi-fi network.
Yep. And apparently they assume everyone will buy their overpriced and craptacular networking hardware too.
What the hell apple, really getting rid of the ethernet port?
I really like the news concerning the hd resolution, as well as the lost of the superdrive and weight.
Since I've been missing hd ever since I've turned from dell to apple two years ago, doing Grafikdesigns and image editing is a pain in the ass, at the current resolution of the late 2011's Model.
But getting rid of the Ethernet and getting two Displayports instead? Seriously, that ridiculous. I have to do a lot of presentations, for that reason I have to carry around a VGA and HDMI adapter all the time, just to make sure I can use my MBP with the projector available. In addition I have to work with a lot of NAS systems, who are only available due to Ethernet, because of the known security reasons, which have been mentioned before by several users.
If Apple get rid of the ethernet port as well, just to add a second retarded mini display port, I will have to carry around a third adapter all the time. Seriously, I can't see where carrying tons of cables around, just to make sure the basic needs are accomplished as being userfriendly...
And to all of those people who are saying, you have to adapt to every new technology, you are just wrong. W-Lan is not a secure technology at all and everyone who is arguing differently is just wrong.
Even I'm eligible to hack almost 80% of all W-lan networks within 4-10h, regardless which use the main security standards (WPA2,WPA,WEP) and everyone who has some knowledge in this field and wants to gain delicate data, as well. Most people don't know anything about e.g. WPS attacks and almost 70% of all routers are WPS enabled, so it's even easier to get in the WIFI network (and this is just the easiest way...)
So people, please stop saying W-Lan is a real alternative for LAN, matter of fact, right now it ain't
I really like the news concerning the hd resolution, as well as the lost of the superdrive and weight.
Since I've been missing hd ever since I've turned from dell to apple two years ago, doing Grafikdesigns and image editing is a pain in the ass, at the current resolution of the late 2011's Model.
But getting rid of the Ethernet and getting two Displayports instead? Seriously, that ridiculous. I have to do a lot of presentations, for that reason I have to carry around a VGA and HDMI adapter all the time, just to make sure I can use my MBP with the projector available. In addition I have to work with a lot of NAS systems, who are only available due to Ethernet, because of the known security reasons, which have been mentioned before by several users.
If Apple get rid of the ethernet port as well, just to add a second retarded mini display port, I will have to carry around a third adapter all the time. Seriously, I can't see where carrying tons of cables around, just to make sure the basic needs are accomplished as being userfriendly...
And to all of those people who are saying, you have to adapt to every new technology, you are just wrong. W-Lan is not a secure technology at all and everyone who is arguing differently is just wrong.
Even I'm eligible to hack almost 80% of all W-lan networks within 4-10h, regardless which use the main security standards (WPA2,WPA,WEP) and everyone who has some knowledge in this field and wants to gain delicate data, as well. Most people don't know anything about e.g. WPS attacks and almost 70% of all routers are WPS enabled, so it's even easier to get in the WIFI network (and this is just the easiest way...)
So people, please stop saying W-Lan is a real alternative for LAN, matter of fact, right now it ain't
I honestly have no ****ing idea what you're talking about... What graphic? what claim? What assumption?
You sure you quoted the right person? All I said was basically "You either use the ethernet port a lot or not at all".
As a research scientist, I certainly need ethernet--I use it every day, otherwise I'd kiss the Internet goodbye at work. And it simply doesn't make sense to have a machine that is an amazing 1-2 mm thinner and 6 ounces lighter, but yet require another stupid dongle. A number of people out there might not be in this situation--they might not have ever needed or used a physical, wired cable for internet access. But I think that if one is paying $2500 for a so-called "Pro" machine, it should be multifunctional enough to interface with the most prolific type of physical dataport connector on earth out-of-the-box, without requiring yet another goddamn dongle. The hyper-minimalist "just one unified onmi-plug" with hubs/dongles design of the MBA isn't going to cut it.
I would also rather have a 'high-res' 1680*1050 display than a mandatory res-doubled 2880*1800 display with an effective software resolution of 1440*900. Now if a 1x pixel mode is available, a 2880*1800 display would be worthwhile (but probably only in a 17" format, in a 15" size, it might be too super tiny to be practical).
I hope they leave the option for a spinning-disc HDD as well. Sometimes a real disc is useful--for example, there is no way of securely deleting a file on an SSD. Since files are written across the flash memory array in a quasi-random, proprietary way, any sort of security requires wiping the entire drive. With a 7200RPM disc, the performance of Mac OS (err, formerly Mac OS, now just OS X) is great. It's sad that Apple has always shipped default machines with a crappy 5400RPM disc drive. If they end up using a hybrid drive with a 7200RPM disc and a decent-sized RAM cache, it could be a good solution without the issues inherent to an SSD.
I would also rather have a 'high-res' 1680*1050 display than a mandatory res-doubled 2880*1800 display with an effective software resolution of 1440*900. Now if a 1x pixel mode is available, a 2880*1800 display would be worthwhile (but probably only in a 17" format, in a 15" size, it might be too super tiny to be practical).
I hope they leave the option for a spinning-disc HDD as well. Sometimes a real disc is useful--for example, there is no way of securely deleting a file on an SSD. Since files are written across the flash memory array in a quasi-random, proprietary way, any sort of security requires wiping the entire drive. With a 7200RPM disc, the performance of Mac OS (err, formerly Mac OS, now just OS X) is great. It's sad that Apple has always shipped default machines with a crappy 5400RPM disc drive. If they end up using a hybrid drive with a 7200RPM disc and a decent-sized RAM cache, it could be a good solution without the issues inherent to an SSD.
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Frankly, I think Apple considers anybody who needs a larger screen, faster processor, dedicated GPU and/or extra ports to be a "pro." I suppose an ideal example is someone who uses Aperture/Final Cut Pro, but the definition is very broad; even a spreadsheet power-user or an avid gamer could be considered a "pro." Just look at their product page.
I don't think there's anything wrong with this, as long as they cover all the bases.
Can someone here please define "professional" ?
Seriously.
I fully expect 10 different definitions.
Seriously.
I fully expect 10 different definitions.
I work in IT support and the lack of an ethernet port would cause problems for a lot of people which in turn would mean a lot of lost sales. Some companies don't have wifi, some have older (i.e. slower) wifi routers and others block wifi access to their internal network.
It is bad enough with the Macbook Air, but just about acceptable as it's an ultra portable laptop. Dropping it from the Macbook Pro wouldn't be acceptable and not even worth it for a couple of mm's.
It is bad enough with the Macbook Air, but just about acceptable as it's an ultra portable laptop. Dropping it from the Macbook Pro wouldn't be acceptable and not even worth it for a couple of mm's.
Ten definitions and all:
pro·fes·sion·al [pruh-fesh-uh-nl]
adjective
1.
following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.
2.
of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession: professional studies.
3.
appropriate to a profession: professional objectivity.
4.
engaged in one of the learned professions: A lawyer is a professional person.
5.
following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime: a professional golfer.
6.
making a business or constant practice of something not properly to be regarded as a business: A salesman, he said, is a professional optimist.
7.
undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball.
8.
of or for a professional person or his or her place of business or work: a professional apartment; professional equipment.
9.
done by a professional; expert: professional car repairs.
noun
10.
a person who belongs to one of the professions, especially one of the learned professions.
11.
a person who earns a living in a sport or other occupation frequently engaged in by amateurs: a golf professional.
12.
an expert player, as of golf or tennis, serving as a teacher, consultant, performer, or contestant; pro.
13.
a person who is expert at his or her work: You can tell by her comments that this editor is a real professional.
I find this all a lose for a lot of people who still need these devices and plugs. Everyday I have to use a Ethernet connection just to sign into the research network. The university does not allow any of these files to be placed onto a wireless network. In fact I can not even get the public wifi in our building.
Optical drive is also used quite often. All our install files are purchased on CD or DVD.
I can see this move upsetting a lot of the people who are research not upgrading their machines.
Optical drive is also used quite often. All our install files are purchased on CD or DVD.
I can see this move upsetting a lot of the people who are research not upgrading their machines.
In 2012, would a laptop user rather be stuck without ethernet, or stuck without wifi ?
And all this whining, exactly how many film/graphic design/music/architecture/animation/medical/research folks are relying solely
on a laptop?
The pro moniker always served as a way to say: "this computer is bigger, badder and faster than the other line we offer".
Relax, breath.
Well stated!
Yeah... about that... Power chargers don't use CPU cycles... And maybe you shouldn't leave your laptop case lying out in the open?
So you're saying that people you know do 3D work and rendering on a macbook? They must have very patient clients waiting on that machine to finish the job. The truth is most professionals like myself are waiting to see if a new mac pro is released and if not we're going back to pc's for our business work. why pay over 5000 for a 12 core mac pro with a joke of a graphics card when you could pay the same for an 16 core hp with a true pro graphics card? you wouldnt, and we aren't.
No. But basic port such as ethernet is necessary. Imagine that by today's technology, it's possible for Apple to just build a Macbook only with MagSafe and Thunderbolt and that's it. They could make it even thinner and sold for the same price as today, and if you need some legacy ports, Apple could just sell:
TB to USB 3.0 adapter; TB to Ethernet; TB to SD Card Reader; TB to 3.5mm jack.
If you buy all those you could end up maybe $150 or 200. Not to mention you musnt forget to bring each adapters I know I wouldnt want that.
Remember, you can still purchase a dongle to have ethernet connectivity (which you'd likely just leave on the wire that you use most frequently at work). The lack of optical media for you will be more of a downer, given that it would probably necessitate buying an external drive.
Apple removed the optical drive from the Mac Mini but shaved the price by more than the cost of an external one, so I was happy about thatbut I don't know if that will happen for the new Pro. Good luck with your decision.