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It's not like the current size MBP is so thick that it ever prevents me from taking it anywhere. Is this thinness for the sake of thinness?

i had rather the thickness remain the same so that they could squeeze in more battery power. that what i really need. to be able to go outside without magsafe for more than half a day yet my mbp is still up and running.
 
Can someone here please define "professional" ?

Seriously.

Historically, for the Apple laptop line, the pro designation has meant moderately (sometimes borderline moderately) better specs (CPU/drive/screen/RAM) & more flexibility (more/better ports/slots) going back at least to the Powerbook/ibook lines. Better specs have always come at a premium price.
 
No. But basic port such as ethernet is necessary. Imagine that by today's technology, it's possible for Apple to just build a Macbook only with MagSafe and Thunderbolt and that's it. They could make it even thinner and sold for the same price as today, and if you need some legacy ports, Apple could just sell:

TB to USB 3.0 adapter; TB to Ethernet; TB to SD Card Reader; TB to 3.5mm jack.
If you buy all those you could end up maybe $150 or 200. Not to mention you musnt forget to bring each adapters… I know I wouldnt want that.

See now. The problem with this is the fact that Apple isn't removing all those ports so this is irrelevant .

For that matter we don't even know for sure what Apple is doing.

I'm a professional speculator and I don't need an Ethernet port on my laptop.
 
I don't see why everyone is complaining about no ethernet port... these are PORTABLES...
There's a difference between being portable and only being used on the run.
they are not meant to be wired to anything.
Sez who? Lots of laptops are used often as desktop replacements. My wife worked somewhere that you've heard of, where everyone had [only] a laptop, whether they moved it around or not. Providing adequate coverage and throughput for hundreds of wifi clients in a corporate environment would suck hard.
If you want a hardwired cable while your at your desk, you can also use the ethernet port in the thunderbolt display.
Which TB display is that? You're going to buy me one? Kewl. Will you have one set up for me everywhere I travel, so I'm not constrained by crappy semi-functional, overloaded WAP's.
 
The Mac Mini ships with a HDMI --> DVI Adaptor. No reason the MBP couldn't ship with an Ethernet dongle in the box
 
I don't understand why so many people need Ethernet. Is there a lack of Wi-Fi in most workplaces? This is an actual question.

Not too sure about other places but here in Ontario, Canada I know there are some universities (McMaster for example) that don't offer wifi to students in dorms and they have to use Ethernet. It'd he annoying if you had to get an adapter for your computer just so your laptop was a little thinner.


And to everyone saying just buy an adapter it's only $25-$30, it's not necessarily about the money but the principle. The fact that Apple is charging extra for features that are standard elsewhere.
 
No. But basic port such as ethernet is necessary. Imagine that by today's technology, it's possible for Apple to just build a Macbook only with MagSafe and Thunderbolt and that's it. They could make it even thinner and sold for the same price as today, and if you need some legacy ports, Apple could just sell:

TB to USB 3.0 adapter; TB to Ethernet; TB to SD Card Reader; TB to 3.5mm jack.
If you buy all those you could end up maybe $150 or 200. Not to mention you musnt forget to bring each adapters… I know I wouldnt want that.

Nice red-herring. The magsafe is larger than the usb 3 port which is larger than the tb port, which is larger than the SD card.... So no, removing all those other ports wouldn't make the laptop any thinner, so there is no reason not to include them. Now, perhaps they should remove the magsafe, then they could make it even thinner!!
 
So a thinner body and stories have stated Ivy Bridge has been possibly running hot. These two combined do not sound very good for a line of laptops known to have poor cooling.
 
Can someone here please define "professional" ?

Seriously.

I fully expect 10 different definitions.

In terms of apple computers:

Mac Pros
Apple Cinema Displays
Macbook Pros

NOT
- ipads
- emacs
- macbooks
- 11 macbook airs
ect


Apple once made macbooks they were white, they weren't tools that you could run industry standard software efficiently or at all as they had entry level specs. Lots of people working in certain industries use these pro / professional computers because they are of a high quality and carry all that is necessary to work on any professional design / film / engineering / architecture / visualization / emulation / music / science / research or other projects that require high quality computation, hardware and software. Apples Pro line of computers often catered to this market, this usually meant FIREWIRE, high quality displays, high end graphics, powerful if not cutting edge processing power, and an array of peripheral inputs that worked very well, everything was designed to function very well and ultimately a one stop machine that can do anything and almost everything for that professional environment, or at least more so than other computer manufacture.

Today, we see the lines blurred between PRO and everyday consumer users as depicted by apples business model. And that's why people who have been using high end (premium priced) apple computers get angry when they see apple shifting their strategy from professional tools to a consumer market ie more focus on macbooks airs / ipads / iphones now i'm guessing slightly cheaper more affordable less "professional" macbook pros.
 
So a thinner body and stories have stated Ivy Bridge has been possibly running hot. These two combined do not sound very good for a line of laptops known to have poor cooling.

Overclocked ivys run hot. Not normally speced ones. Just don't tweak it and it'll be cooler than Sandy Bridge.
 
Im going to guess that they're going to once again sacrifice the GPU for more thinness. Too bad because I really wanted to get a new Macbook Pro. PC it is then.
 
Overclocked ivys run hot. Not normally speced ones. Just don't tweak it and it'll be cooler than Sandy Bridge.

Fact is that they've been quicker to reach higher overclock temperatures than their sandy bridge counterparts.
 
Im going to guess that they're going to once again sacrifice the GPU for more thinness. Too bad because I really wanted to get a new Macbook Pro. PC it is then.

I'm going to consider getting a pc as well if what apple offers is not as refined and is not well resolved in terms of its design. I may get a mac mini instead.
 
Im going to guess that they're going to once again sacrifice the GPU for more thinness. Too bad because I really wanted to get a new Macbook Pro. PC it is then.

They stuck the 6790M in the last Macbook Pro.

It got a crapton of praise.

There is no way they are going to skimp on it, especially considering how loudly the professional and gaming communities have been clamoring for more powerful GPUs.
 
That's a bad Apple...
 

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As a research scientist, I certainly need ethernet--I use it every day, otherwise I'd kiss the Internet goodbye at work. And it simply doesn't make sense to have a machine that is an amazing 1-2 mm thinner and 6 ounces lighter, but yet require another stupid dongle. A number of people out there might not be in this situation--they might not have ever needed or used a physical, wired cable for internet access. But I think that if one is paying $2500 for a so-called "Pro" machine, it should be multifunctional enough to interface with the most prolific type of physical dataport connector on earth out-of-the-box, without requiring yet another goddamn dongle. The hyper-minimalist "just one unified onmi-plug" with hubs/dongles design of the MBA isn't going to cut it.

I would also rather have a 'high-res' 1680*1050 display than a mandatory res-doubled 2880*1800 display with an effective software resolution of 1440*900. Now if a 1x pixel mode is available, a 2880*1800 display would be worthwhile (but probably only in a 17" format, in a 15" size, it might be too super tiny to be practical).

I hope they leave the option for a spinning-disc HDD as well. Sometimes a real disc is useful--for example, there is no way of securely deleting a file on an SSD. Since files are written across the flash memory array in a quasi-random, proprietary way, any sort of security requires wiping the entire drive. With a 7200RPM disc, the performance of Mac OS (err, formerly Mac OS, now just OS X) is great. It's sad that Apple has always shipped default machines with a crappy 5400RPM disc drive. If they end up using a hybrid drive with a 7200RPM disc and a decent-sized RAM cache, it could be a good solution without the issues inherent to an SSD.

Im going into graduate school next year and am curious why you stick to Macs if you have all these concerns (similar to my concerns).
 
They stuck the 6790M in the last Macbook Pro.

It got a crapton of praise.

There is no way they are going to skimp on it, especially considering how loudly the professional and gaming communities have been clamoring for more powerful GPUs.
Molten laps and fans to 6200 RPM? They made it thinner too. Maybe nVidia can source enough wafers for GK107 but that performance is hot. nVidia appears to have many more shipment commitments on GK107 compared to the weak push getting GK104 out the door. Then again GK107 is for notebook vendors instead of retail video card AIBs and boutique gaming machines.
 
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