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I use my mbp for work and I have never once used the ethernet, and I pulled the optical out for the optibay.

So I'll be interested in seeing the newer ones (second drive would be welcome but not a deal breaker if they use it up for an even better battery...)

I'm probably more concerned about the display, I have a matte now.
 
Secondly, Macbook Pros aren't actually aimed at professionals... No pro worth their salt would do any major work on one.
Guess I better alert all of the people who I know make a living with their MacBook Pros that they aren't professionals!! Thank you for informing us as quickly as possible!
 
I realize that this is entirely speculative and that it isn't necessarily what the real machine will be like, but how could they call a machine "pro" that doesn't have an ethernet port? I at least know that I need ethernet to access to get into the local server at work that has video production resources on it, and I wouldn't be too keen on using up a USB port with an adaptor. I understand that for consumer level stuff an ethernet port might not be necessary, but don't insult the pro community by giving this that name.
 
I'm in dire need of an upgrade, and whatever this computer is/will look like, I'm going to buy it!!!!!!

Optical drive gone? No worries. I get stuff from iTunes now.
And if I want to RIP CDs apart, I'll just get an external Superdrive (which I only do once in a while)

I like the Mac AppStore...

Internet speeds (such as WIFI) is already super fast.... so everything is all good!!!!
 
I don't see why they would have to remove the ethernet port from the 15". If you're buying a 15", there's a very good likelihood that you're buying it for work reasons (unless you're one of "those" guys that likes to pay a premium for a mac gaming machine...). The slight reduction in weight/thickness does not offset the removal of ethernet in this instance. In the case of the 13", I think the argument is better for the removal of ethernet, but the 15"?

The fact that it's 15" doesn't obviate portability as a design issue. There are plenty of professionals who cannot work on a smaller display yet still need to lug their computers around wherever they go—myself included. I, for one, would gladly purchase a dongle in exchange for a notably thinner and lighter computer. 99% of my experience with the device would be improved, while that remaining 1% would simply be comprised of placing a dongle in my bag when I travel, or sticking it on the end of an ethernet wire at work and forgetting about it.
 
I realize that this is entirely speculative and that it isn't necessarily what the real machine will be like, but how could they call a machine "pro" that doesn't have an ethernet port? I at least know that I need ethernet to access to get into the local server at work that has video production resources on it, and I wouldn't be too keen on using up a USB port with an adaptor. I understand that for consumer level stuff an ethernet port might not be necessary, but don't insult the pro community by giving this that name.
They haven't removed the functionality, they just moved it. Many people in this thread have stated that they don't use ethernet, so for them, it's a move in the right direction (because you gain the benefit of a smaller form factor as a result). For those who do need ethernet, it's still there - and whatever space you "lose" in your bag by the tiny adapter you've more than gained in size/weight savings of the new machine. It's honestly not a very big deal.
 
I realize that this is entirely speculative and that it isn't necessarily what the real machine will be like, but how could they call a machine "pro" that doesn't have an ethernet port? I at least know that I need ethernet to access to get into the local server at work that has video production resources on it, and I wouldn't be too keen on using up a USB port with an adaptor. I understand that for consumer level stuff an ethernet port might not be necessary, but don't insult the pro community by giving this that name.

I use my computer for professional architectural/graphic design work and I'm not insulted. And if, as the rumor is suggesting, the new MacBook Pro will have an extra USB port, you'll break even, then, won't you?
 
Guess I better alert all of the people who I know make a living with their MacBook Pros that they aren't professionals!! Thank you for informing us as quickly as possible!

I consider a "pro" computer to be one where the work relies heavily on the computing itself - e.g. Movie editing, photo editing, programming, 3d modelling etc.

Are the professionals you know doing that, or are they using it in the same fashion you'd use an entry-level windows laptop? emails, word documents, spreadsheets etc.

It depends on what your definition is.
 
Slimmer, nice. But what about the weight?

You guys should know that the Pro moniker is just a name and got nothing to do with the Pro market. 10 years back yes, maybe. But not anymore.

Apple sell on the look more than features and performance. And they are right to do so as 90% of the consumers have no idea what's inside the machine.

I am not going to do an impulsive buying on this one as the CPU gain is not really worth it at this time. Maybe at the next update.
 
Of course it is. Stetrain asked "Where does it say they will drop Thunderbolt?" "It" doesn't.

I think the person I quoted mistook the one-sided mockup from the first post along with the "USB3" headline as "Apple drops Thunderbolt in favor of USB3" :p
 
can we expect a 13 inch to be launched or do we think it will strictly 15-17 inch and the macbook air will capture the smaller more portable markets ?

I am looking forward to seeing a redesigned 2012 - 13 inch macbook pro but if they stuff up the design by removing too many pro features then why not just opt for the MBA ? This seems very probable due to the fact that the 13 MBP and 13 MBA perform almost the same results in terms of GPU and CPU, out of the box the 2 can almost be on par besides the RAM.

I would really love to see the 13 MBP a true Pro machine with a dedicated graphics card. somehow don't think we will see that, especially now that they have removed the optical drives making a 13 inch MBP would be basically the same as the macbook air. I see them upgrading the 15-17 inchs and then also upgrading the MBA line in spec bumbs and usb 3 which eliminated the need for a 13 MBP from a business perspective.
 
no Gige, forget it. wifi is NOT fast enough, show me a wifi adapter that supports jumbo frames.

i'd rather have 1tb of hd than ssd.

this MBP is a piece of junk. if this is the future, i'll build a Hackintosh with screaming specs.
 
I consider a "pro" computer to be one where the work relies heavily on the computing itself - e.g. Movie editing, photo editing, programming, 3d modelling etc.

Are the professionals you know doing that, or are they using it in the same fashion you'd use an entry-level windows laptop? emails, word documents, spreadsheets etc.

It depends on what your definition is.
My definition is the same as yours. I work in an industry that does three of the four things you listed above, and everyone I know uses Macs. Most people are favoring MBPs today as the Mac Pro hasn't been upgraded in centuries and portability is a huge factor.
 
You honestly believe that people won't buy the brand new Apple Macbook Pro with a retina display thinner design and flash memory because it doesn't carry an ethernet port?

I'll buy it because I desperately need a new laptop.

But the lack of an ethernet port would be a sad commentary of the second class status of anything 'pro" at Apple. Yes, I will have to get a dongle. An additional layer that can cause troubleshooting problems. Cool.

But I happen to need ethernet for work. And no, I am not talking about a wall port. I need to be able to occasionally connect directly to a switch or router for diagnostics or configuration.

I could care less about a thinner laptop, unless there is a corresponding decrease in weight. I'm all for great design. But not if it means taking away a crucial functionality.

What I do care about is Ivy Bridge and possibly the retina display.

Hopefully, they won't eliminate the anti-glare option. I am interested in doing work on my laptop, not watch movies. I have an ipad for that (which I have vastly improved by adding an anti-glare film to it).
 
So, a movie editor working on a macbook pro is using a "pro" computer, but an employee of a fortune 500 company checking email, working on spreadsheets and presentations on the very same macbook pro is not using a "pro" computer?

Exactly, and to edit his movie files the editor needs a built-in ethernet port.
 
FINALLY. I NEED ONE.

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By forcing people to buy usb-ethernet adapter, I'm yet again forced to buy 1 such adapter. No I will probably buy 3 for home/office/road.

After just dumping boxes of old adapters of various kind and reminding myself how ungreen it was of me to do so, here I am being forced to do buy adapters AGAIN.

Why buys 3 adapters? Just put the one in your laptop case. easy peasy.
 
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