While i don't agree with you, i suggest waiting. A price decline will be coming shortly
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Apple to Release Thinner MacBook Pro at WWDC
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While i don't agree with you, i suggest waiting. A price decline will be coming shortly
I have. Thunderbolt is useless. SERIOUSLY!
The technology behind Thunderbolt is fantastic. Hell, it seems like the kind of technology that could one day replace EVERY port we have today from USB and FireWire to Ethernet and DVI and everything in between.
But until some glorious day like that comes along, thunderbolt is just unsupported technology that demands a $50 cable to function, and won't even let me play my Xbox games on my iMac's screen.
In a stark contrast, Ethernet is EVERYWHERE! Ethernet cords are wired through businesses and schools all over the country because it's been a standard port on nearly every computer made in the last decade. The only computers that DON'T have ethernet are ones like the Macbook Air which are designed with the intention of cutting down on ports and functionality in order to be as lightweight as possible, and not clunky like netbooks.
The Macbook Pro is NOT a Macbook Air! And Ethernet > Thunderbolt.
Ivy Bridge is fine until you try to overclock or add additional voltage. The big fuss for the desktop versions is the switch over to using thermal paste under the integrated heatspreader instead of the solderless flux used in the past. Even changing out the thermal paste has some impressive improvements.
It is using lower power at idle and you are going to see lower voltages along with targeted TDP for the mobile variants.
Intel is just not making the LGA 1155 enthusiasts happy.
i think they will announce the iMacs at wwdc along with these new macbook pros,
its looking like WWDC is going to be good this year
That is true, from that one specific standpoint. (Here's hoping Thunderbolt compatible routers become a thing.)
One thing Thunderbolt does that none of the other standards do: PCI-e externalization.
I've already been waiting for ages. It's been just over a year since the last models came out. I sort of get the delay, but still...
At the very least, I hope they went with NVIDIA this time.
BS! No new Mac Pros, and Tim Cook might as well go hang himself. Laptops are so 1995 - I don't care!!!
Professional people willing to fork out so much for a pro computer (and so much more than what they would have paid for at the competition) for their work that allows for out of the box interface with the most common network protocol on the planet in corporate, university, small business or conference settings (or for that matter on any occasion where ethernet comes very handy as quick ad hoc networking between computers, router set ups, places with poor wifi reception etc. etc.) dongle and hassle free? I would say about 70-80% and I am being modest here.
What's the retina to do with anything anyway? This is a completely bs non point. All the more so if this is a first gen retina computer it should be a millimeter thicker to allow for better thermals from the gpu to drive it.
The things you read to justify ANYTHING apple does, reminds me of the old joke that if apple come out with a pile of crap and call it the iturd and slap a $2000 on it, sure enough you are going to find quite a few people coming here and saying that it's ushering in a new era of human computer interaction, or how iconic the design is, or that competitors products are **** anyway at least apple are being upfront about it.
Obviously, Apple isn't building this to your specs, so they also don't expect your demographic to purchase them.
Myself, I will greatly enjoy the HiDpi screen and thinner form factor, and for the lack of ethernet, I suspect I'll survive fine with the dongle and WiFi.
The Noctua NH-D14 is a bit much for my tastes when it comes to size. I am using a closed loop water cooler in my own machine. You will be unlikely to see a IHS on a mobile processor.Love this picture from that link
since the topic is laptops....
Question to Down-voters
Somebody please enlighten me. How can someone stating their personal experience with Ethernet merit not 1, but 4 negative votes?! What does that even mean?
Does it mean four people didn't like to hear than not all MBP users need an Ethernet port? Does it mean four readers don't understand how a poster could live without Ethernet? Does it mean four readers just like to vote down?
Somebody please tell me what a down vote means in response to such a comment? Preferably from someone who down-votes such comments since we have enough speculation on this board as it is.
Somebody please enlighten me. How can someone stating their personal experience with Ethernet merit not 1, but 4 negative votes?! What does that even mean?
Does it mean four people didn't like to hear than not all MBP users need an Ethernet port? Does it mean four readers don't understand how a poster could live without Ethernet? Does it mean four readers just like to vote down?
Somebody please tell me what a down vote means in response to such a comment
? Preferably from someone who down-votes such comments since we have enough speculation on this board as it is.I'm going to say I'm wary about the flash drive...
Because to me that says either going to be a lot more expensive, or a lot less storage space. And I wonder how easy it will be to replace (will they do it like they do on the Air)?
Because to me that says either going to be a lot more expensive, or a lot less storage space. And I wonder how easy it will be to replace (will they do it like they do on the Air)?
Argue away, I enjoy it. Often we learn best when listening to arguments
As for where to stop? Right now it's with the Magsafe. It is the biggest port left, from what I could see in that mockup. In the future where do we stop? Well, ideally one would want to eliminate all ports and do everything on wireless, but that's still some ways away. Anyway, I don't know what direction Apple is taking, but if I was in charge at Apple I'd setup all the ports on a new Time Capsule or Airport Extreme and make everything wireless with either the TC or the Apple TV. The ATV costs 99$. Just about any company with a conference room could buy one and let its Mac visitors stream everything over to the projected screens without having to hook anything up. Simple and EZ.
That problem is vanishing away very quickly. Even 5 year old projectors were shipping with HDMI connections. And so all you need is a single Thunderbolt to HDMI cable for any university hookup. Again that's very simple if you ask me. Worst case though, bring a VGA cable just in case.
Again, with the new 802.11ac wifi, and with an ATV that streams at 1080p, I don't see why you couldn't accomplish the overwhelming majority of tasks wirelessly.
Please Apple, fix how you guys apple Thermal Paste for the next MBP. please oh please..
im fine with both ODD n Ethernet gone, as long as they offer a better solution and specs
im fine with both ODD n Ethernet gone, as long as they offer a better solution and specs
My lord these comments are nauseating. I am an IT consultant that plugs into 5+ different corporate networks a day with my MacBook Air and Ethernet dongle. It's not a big deal whatsoever. At home I prefer my 300mb wifi over cables. I also have the USB SuperDrive for the half dozen times a year I need it. Also not a big deal. I much prefer having the ultra thin, ultra light, ultra portability over cramming everything imaginable into the rig.
I used to use FW800, and now I'm forced to use usb2. That part is crap. Thunderbolt is ridiculously overpriced and usb2 sucks. I think usb3 on the new rigs will solve that issue and finally put FireWire out to pasture.
I used to use FW800, and now I'm forced to use usb2. That part is crap. Thunderbolt is ridiculously overpriced and usb2 sucks. I think usb3 on the new rigs will solve that issue and finally put FireWire out to pasture.
Of course this article is totally wrong. Apple is going to increase the thickness of the Macbook Pro and use a 20" screen. It will come with a few 3.5" hard drives, PCI slots, fibre channel connections and feature an 18 megapixel screen. But we know there will be some guy that say it's not a professional machine because it doesn't have usb3.
Somebody please enlighten me. How can someone stating their personal experience with Ethernet merit not 1, but 4 negative votes?! What does that even mean?
Does it mean four people didn't like to hear than not all MBP users need an Ethernet port? Does it mean four readers don't understand how a poster could live without Ethernet? Does it mean four readers just like to vote down?
Somebody please tell me what a down vote means in response to such a comment
Don't worry. They're just a few corporate snobs who think their work is the center of the universe and thus, they must have ethernet or they're going to die!
The majority of customers (who don't voice their opinions on this forum) will be delighted by and pleased with these new Macs. Hallelujah!
I just purchased a third-party DisplayPort to VGA adapter so I can connect my MacBook Pro to a projector. It was only USD 15.00. It's light, and I can throw it in my bag when I need it.
The thing about ethernet is that its only needed 10% of the time when you absolutely must have that speed, for tech support, for certain security settings, etc. But if you are using ethernet you are obviously tied down by the cord anyway, so I see no more inconvenience being tied down with a dongle as well.
However, a usb2 dongle kind of defeats the purpose of most of the ethernet advantages BUT I think a perfectly good compromise on apples part would be to release a Thunderbolt to ethernet dongle for a reasonable price (~$50). Best of both worlds. Full speed when you absolutely need it, but ability to make the laptop more portable when you don't. TB Dongle FTW!
However, a usb2 dongle kind of defeats the purpose of most of the ethernet advantages BUT I think a perfectly good compromise on apples part would be to release a Thunderbolt to ethernet dongle for a reasonable price (~$50). Best of both worlds. Full speed when you absolutely need it, but ability to make the laptop more portable when you don't. TB Dongle FTW!
As probably already mentions (but just in case), the Samsung series 9 notebooks have an Ethernet adapter. Not an USB to ethernet adapter, but just a plug adapter. I have one and it actually is faster than the Macbook Gigabit.
So if Apple drops the ball on this is really going to be pathetic
BTW, the Series 9 is as thin as the MBA.
Love this picture from that link
since the topic is laptops....
Just wanna say that looks cool. It's a 24 cylinder diesel powered time machine.
There won't be less storage space. Getting rid of the optical drive gives it space for lots of storage and perhaps Apple got a good deal on the chips.