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Apple to Require COVID Testing for Employees Starting Next Month, Still No Vaccine Mandate
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Science (including climate science) does not apply to globalist elites (regardless of their political views/parties)
There is no point, people will do what they want. However, being fully vaccinated is a freedom.
- some jobs are terminating unvaccinated individuals (who are medically able)
- some venues are declining unvaccinated individuals
The government cannot tell people what to do, but those who do not want to get vaccinated (when they are medically able) are painting themselves into a metaphorical corner. People in this thread can throw anecdotal potshots and argue illogically and no one will convince anyone. The virus though will have the last word for the unvaccinated.
why do you keep conflating the mask ridiculousness with being vaccinated?
As was noted, this thread is about vaccine mandates. The CDC, still the authority on guidelines relating to this pandemic is advising use of a mask in some situations. Of course vaccinated or not, one can do what they want, but masks are recommended in some scenarios by the authority on the subject.
The point is that your vaccination mandate and masks architects know very well that what they are doing is pure fascism and obviously don’t want to apply the same rules to themselves.
you get that from people taking their masks off to be photographed?
you understand that that is what’s happening in those videos right?
you truly have a wild imagination
i’d also point out that after unfortunately scrolling through the far-right trope, racism and transphobia filled twitter feed of the woman who’s tweet was reposted here that she aligns much closer to facism than most of elected officials featured there
incidentally they are not “(my) vaccine mandate and mask architects.” i’m no fan of any of them either but you’ll have to take that up with the people that voted for them and the mechanisms that put them in power
the vaccine and mask recommendations both come from public health officials in consolation with epidemiologists and immunologists, not any of these people. and it has yet to be demonstrated by anyone here what any of it has to do with fascism
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that’s really not as clever as you seem to think
you asked why is someone conflating vaccines with mask mandates. it was merely pointed out to you that you were the one off topic
That’s them only argument he can make. Dumb at that.
You seem to think that fascism requires some special “reason or purpose” to take away your rights. Medical reason is good and convenient enough for taking away your rights and beating population into submission with vaccine and masks mandates.
ah yes, more of what i “seem to think”
i never said fascism requires any special “reason or purpose”
please explain how vaccines and masks “beat people in to submission”
it’s not about taking away your right to not be vaccinated and transmit covid. it’s about protecting the right of everyone in your community to not be out at undue risk of contracting the disease
these are public health measures not fascism.
do you believe that mandates against drunk driving are fascism? how about mandates against murder? are those fascism? is there any rule or regulation that you do not feel is fascism? do you actually even know what fascism is?
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Taking away the freedoms such as political choice, movement, employment and participation in social life is fascism no matter what the reason for doing do.
Ok I will play your game. Where did I say anything about drunk driving or murder? Are you assuming?
At the same time drunk driver probably still believes that he has a freedom to drink and drive. OJ Simpson still thinks that he has a freedom to get away with a murder. So nobody is taking away the kind of freedoms that you are talking about.
i think you need to look up the definition of fascism
but let’s use yours anyways,
so if someone is incarcerated for murder is that fascism?
if some one is removed from their job because they are a danger to their coworkers is that fascism?
what if they are removed from their job because they are incompetent?
if you put a fence in front of a cliff to impede peoples freedom of movement over that cliff is that fascism?
if someone is a dangerous predator and their freedom to participate in social life is impeded merely through their ostracization by others is that fascism?
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You took it out of the context for your own manipulation.
All your examples have nothing to do with vaccine and masks mandates being fascism tactics.
Why do you think they are not yet crossing the line of banning the unvaccinated from buying essentials like food? Because they know that it would be genocide. Denying employment is also can be seen as borderline genocide.
your words were “for any reason” so you made up the parameter that it wasn’t just about vaccines and masks. rather than taking anything out of context I merely followed the context you set up with your own words to it's logical conclusion
i will just say one more time that vaccine and mask mandates are not “fascism tactics” whatever that means. they are public health measures
i suspect you don’t actually know what the word fascism even means
now you want to up the ante from fascism to genocide?!?!
i don’t know what ethnicity you imagine is being targeted by this imaginary genocide, but there are actual genocides currently being perpetrated around the world, mostly for the sole purpose of the expansion of capital through resource extraction.
once you start throwing the word genocide around like that you belittle actual human suffering and injustice; at such point i no longer find your fantasies amusing, but rather offensive. I will take my leave from this ridiculous correspondence. i am not going to respond to any more of your comments
you are so far down some rabbit hole or another i sincerely hope that you have some family or friends around that know about your situation. i mean this compassionately and sincerely from one human to another
good luck!
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All I said with regards to the genocide is that no amount of public health orders or medical research will allow you to cross certain lines that will result in unvaccinated people not being able to access food or health services.
This is why putting a stop to vaccine mandates is ultimately the right thing to do.
At every level the above is a ridiculous statement. There will never be a denial for the unvaccinated to the basic necessities of life including food, material items and medical care. However:
1. Unvaccinated could be required to wear masks in certain scenarios where vaccinated individuals are not.
2. Certain venues may require proof of vaccination as a condition of entry.
3. Some companies may require proof of vaccination as a condition of continued employment.
4. There is talk about charging the unvaccinated for medical care for COVID related illness.
5. Then there is this: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm
Are you saying that you don’t see how some of the points on your list can lead to unvaccinated people not having enough money to buy food or access the healthcare?
Genocide can be done in very subtle ways when you are technically unable to blame anyone.
For example if you are a starving farmer during a bad year, at the same time you have gold and want to buy some machinery from me that you must have in order to continue working. I am telling you, sorry, I don’t want your gold, I want your bread. Technically you can’t say that I am trying to genocide you but some might say that it looks that way.
Yes. There is no issue for those who are medically capable of getting a vaccination. Those who have a legitimate medical exemption are covered.
Doctor, doctor it hurts when I do this. Doctor: “so don’t do it”. Get vaccinated, if you’re medically capable. You will then be able to see your broadway show or concert.
Nice whataboutism.
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Over 3 hours of testimony from individuals injured by the vaccine and medical experts on mandates, zero media coverage.
Why should there be media coverage. It’s expected every medication has contraindications. Heck, foods have contraindications.
More people have died in car crashes than from vaccine complications. Maybe that’s why there is no media coverage.
More people have died in car crashes than from vaccine complications. Maybe that’s why there is no media coverage.
This is all the more reason that vaccine mandates are wrong. There is no food mandate in case you didn’t know.
No media coverage means that the vaccine mandates architects don’t want the truth to come out.
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