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Apple to Require COVID Testing for Employees Starting Next Month, Still No Vaccine Mandate
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In the United States there are numerous medical workers (anecdotally they are always nurses) who are quitting their jobs because they refuse to get a COVID vaccine. Clearly 25% of the work force isn’t jumping ship, but it is definitely happening across the country and is a measurable amount. Unfortunately, the remaining staff are overworked. In some cases fewer hospital beds and services are being made available due to a lack of employees. This gets interpreted as “hospitals being nearly full” with no context to the situation. Political argument ensues.
I have to wonder if COVID isnt some clever plan to turn countrymen against each other. The prevailing mainstream media attitude is that you must bow the knee to the sun-god Corona. Unroll your sleeve and accept your shot. Do not ask how Corona kills. Do not ask where it came from. Do not expose your face/identity to others. And certainly do not ask what you can do to lessen symptoms or expedite recovery. All naysayers will be shouted down on sight.
Healthcare workers who won't get vaccinated shouldn't be healthcare workers in the first place.
And we do know how it kills. And everyone has asked where it came from, we just don't know right now. And nobody cares about your face/identity, we just don't want your infection. And if you ask what can lessen symptoms and expedite recovery, the answer will be monoclonal antibodies, not apple-flavored horse paste.
Why? I sit next to him. His wife’s a neurologist who begged him to get vaccinated when it was first available. She threatened divorce if he didn’t get jabbed after his second bout where he nearly died (9 days in the hospital).
Guess who’s vaccinated and allowed back in our offices now?
To quote him “I nearly died, my wife is always right, I’m just a stubborn jackass who has to get burned.”
He’s a really nice guy, but to his point, he has a tendency to think he knows as much as doctors and scientists. He does not, we’re IT professionals, not physicians.
No it isn’t.
So far the science is showing that folks who recovered are better protected, generally.
Vaccines may provide a boost (T-cells and antibodies) but the science is out on that. Needs more data.
At present getting a vaccination after recovering from COVID is just another shot at getting one or more of the bad side effects.
Depending on the outcome of the analysis, getting a periodic booster may be a boon.
Then there are the variants….
So yeah, we need a lot more info.
A single instance does not a trend make. Nor does it provide wide base factual proof.
Getting a vaccine is his choice. If it helps or he feels it helps, great. It won’t stop him from getting it again, sadly.
Nobody ever claims a vaccine makes you immune to Covid. It’s like an airbag in your car. Vaccinated people rarely end up on ventilators for a month, only to drown in their own lungs anyway - which is a pretty typical trajectory for unvaccinated Covid patients on ventilators.
Yes, a few vaccinated people still die of Covid… they’re usually very old, very fat, or have other comorbidities such as cancers. Often a combination of these.
His wife explained it this way “our ICU is all unvaccinated people who are begging us for the vaccine now that death is very real… why do you want to be in that position when you can make that 1 in 100 chance become 1 in 10,000?
At least in silicon valley, it doesn’t take more than a minute for a cheek swab, no waiting required.
As for Apple paying for testing, many employers do provide free on-site testing here, but if you can go get yourself a free vaccine and then not have to get tested, why should Apple Pay?
The fact they can’t even agree on wether a “booster shot” is needed says otherwise.
No, that’s not at all what the evidence shows. The evidence shows that immunity acquired by getting ill is not long-lasting, and, in particular, is not very useful against the delta variant.
They agree on what a booster shot accomplishes and what effect it has. They don’t agree on whether, politically, it is the right move.
Good. Require ALL employees to get it. No exemptions. If you don't or refuse to get it Apple needs to send their ass packing
Anybody that doesn't want a booster shot, I'll take it in their place.
So, Vaccine should be individual choice, according to you.
What about same sex marriage? What about abortion? Are they considered as individual choice? My body, my choice? No?
Totally against mandates. I am vaccinated and I respect folks who do not want to get it. I was hesitant at first.
The issue is once you allow mandates, the government/politicians/autocrats will keep making new ones.
The USA is about freedom of choice.
BTW, I am not getting boosters. The best thing is to eat well, sleep, exercise, meditate and spend time outdoors. That's the best boost you can get against anything. That said, you never hear on MSM this message. It's all about masks, stay indoors and afraid.
The issue is once you allow mandates, the government/politicians/autocrats will keep making new ones.
The USA is about freedom of choice.
BTW, I am not getting boosters. The best thing is to eat well, sleep, exercise, meditate and spend time outdoors. That's the best boost you can get against anything. That said, you never hear on MSM this message. It's all about masks, stay indoors and afraid.
Nothing is 100% safe in life. Talking to pro-mandated masking, pro-mandated lockdown, and pro-mandated vax people, it's clear that their insistence that others relinquish their liberty and autonomy has moved away from caution and further towards selfishness. See what I did there?
We will always need more info on a mutating virus and the longer we claim to need more info, the more hesitant people become about getting vaccinated. Meanwhile, we know that more variants spring up from non vaccinated covid transmissions. And we also know that less people die, suffer long term side effects and create future vaccine resistant variants if they get vaccinated now.
Therefore, waiting for more info on variants will only lead to more variants. We break that cycle by safely vaccinating as many people as possible right now.
Comirnaty is approved, but only EUA BioNTech is available. If you/your loved one has severe adverse reaction to death, you're up the creek without a paddle on suing Pfizer.So, this whole health department and FDA.. is a joke?
FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine
FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine, now marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.www.fda.gov
COVID-19 Vaccines
The FDA has regulatory processes in place to facilitate the development of COVID-19 vaccines that meet the FDA's rigorous scientific standards.
I would rather people live a long healthier life then worrying about if it’s approved or not.
What ever happened to natural immunity which has been proved to be markedly better than the vax? The Washington Post.Perspective | Natural immunity to covid is powerful. Policymakers seem afraid to say so..1 day ago
Pretty much unvaccinated people are clogging up ICU and transmitting en messes. Your personal choice is making you sick, other sick, taking up all ICU spaces, delaying life saving surgeries. Folks are dying because people refuse get vaccine and refunds put mask on.
People who refuse get vaccine should not get any rights and freedom. They should be sent of to an island, so we can get over COVID
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