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After Steve Jobs died, I would never have thought they would waste billions of dollars buying up Beats and selling ridiculous $20K gold watches. And people wonder why Apple is STILL so dependent on the iPhone to produce most of their profits...they haven't actually done anything new or interesting since. They're making the same mistake they made in the late 80s, they've got too many product lines and they're not killing off unsuccessful ones.

There's so many fascinating things Apple could be investing their money in (artificial intelligence, quantum computing enabled cloud services, carbon nanotube computing, neural network sensor integration), but instead they're wasting it on gaudy watches and online radio, and skimming pennies by keeping the base model iPhone gimped with 2010 era storage. Some time soon, Apple is gonna realize that it has squandered every advantage it had after Steve Jobs passed.

I kind of disagree: they practically killed the Thunderbolt Display. Also, one could consider the (new) MacMini DOA ;)
 
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I kind of disagree: they practically killed the Thunderbolt Display. Also, one could consider the (new) MacMini DOA ;)

They also neglected the iPod classic for god knows how long and, well, the whole remaining iPod line hasn't been updated in how long?

It's not like they're putting R&D into dead products and they're not sitting on mountains of them. 80s Apple didn't have Tim Cook ;)
 
I disagree. A colleague of mine who doesn't have the Apple Watch says her main complaint is that it looks too much like a tech item. I showed her my Hermes (Single Tour) and she thought it made it look much more like a "regular" watch and would consider it. The next part for her would be to have a watch face on all the time so that it "looks like" a watch from a distance. She's easily got the $1250 for the Double Tour.

She told you want you wanted to hear. You really thing she would tell you it is still a bad thing to your face after you showed her your "magical wrist band"?
 
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"Suckers" "fools"...every Watch thread is full of people being jerks. :rolleyes:

Ironically , you are on every one of those threads to police those comments ;) :rolleyes:

Cause people have a different opinion to a stakeholder which you are, does not make them jerks.

For most people a Hermes edition is silly money, even AW owners .
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I disagree. A colleague of mine who doesn't have the Apple Watch says her main complaint is that it looks too much like a tech item. I showed her my Hermes (Single Tour) and she thought it made it look much more like a "regular" watch and would consider it. The next part for her would be to have a watch face on all the time so that it "looks like" a watch from a distance. She's easily got the $1250 for the Double Tour.

I suspect she was being polite. A Hermes is an Apple Watch with a nice band , still a tech item.

I'll bet she will consider it and never get one.
 
"Suckers" "fools"...every Watch thread is full of people being jerks. :rolleyes:
My sucker comment is not aimed at the Apple Watch, (which actually has potential), but rather the vain individuals who believe that wearing a particular name is enhancing their being - and pay a massive premium for the 'privilege'.

This is not a knock on fashion, or quality products, but rather an erect middle finger to the brainless 'brand obsessed' that the high-end fashion world target. Go see the world already...
 
It's amusing the opinion some people have towards fashion. They wouldn't dare say the same thing about Architecture or design or art. If they knew the craftsmanship that goes into Hermès products, their workman study in Paris for years to learn techniques of crafting the finest leather.
Of course the product is for the rich. I can't afford the strap (I don't even own an Apple watch and I'd only buy timeless Hermès goods) but in the press conference when they announced the straps, I knew it was Hermès even before they revealed the brand by the stitching of the bracelets.
There will be knockoffs, and I've seen decent ones online if you want the "double tour" or cuff strap style and it will look very similar from afar (or even up close) but someone who appreciates design will see the difference (and appreciate the design and craftsmanship including the testing that went into making the double tour design work with Apple watch).

That's not the case. Hermes has many of its products manufactured in Asia. It simply discards up to 90% of what it has manufactured there to maintain the illusion of quality.
 
No doubt some suckers will buy these... Go figure.

More money than sense me thinks.
and who do you think you are to judge the way people spend their money ?

My sucker comment is not aimed at the Apple Watch, (which actually has potential), but rather the vain individuals who believe that wearing a particular name is enhancing their being - and pay a massive premium for the 'privilege'.

This is not a knock on fashion, or quality products, but rather an erect middle finger to the brainless 'brand obsessed' that the high-end fashion world target. Go see the world already...
still you are no one to judge people spending THEIR money.
Someone could say "a sucker" is a guy wasting time on a nerd's forum ....
 
Apologies for the embarrassing error, it's been fixed! Thanks for the heads up. Also, re: Nerds, I didn't see the comment on that until now (sometimes it gets busy so I miss a comment here and there), but I've changed the wording. BTW, if you see us make little accidental mistakes like this, quickest way to let us know is to shoot us an email. I can always be reached at juli@macrumors.com and I really appreciate it when you guys let me know about something that got overlooked.


How can you be so nice? How are we going to pick on you if you are going to have such a pleasant attitude.
 
Quote of the thread!

I'm a sucker for punishment :p
I don't have an Apple Watch yet, and I don't plan to buy one with a fashion band, but I don't like people feel superior in any way just because they have different interests
 
I love the irony of people on an Apple forum criticising others for paying premium prices and being more concerned about brand than anything else :cool:
It is quite amusing. :)

I'm not really a fan of the Apple Watch but I do think the Hermès Single Tour is the best looking combination Apple currently offers. Still wouldn't buy one though. ;)
 
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After Steve Jobs died, I would never have thought they would waste billions of dollars buying up Beats and selling ridiculous $20K gold watches. And people wonder why Apple is STILL so dependent on the iPhone to produce most of their profits...they haven't actually done anything new or interesting since. They're making the same mistake they made in the late 80s, they've got too many product lines and they're not killing off unsuccessful ones.

There's so many fascinating things Apple could be investing their money in (artificial intelligence, quantum computing enabled cloud services, carbon nanotube computing, neural network sensor integration), but instead they're wasting it on gaudy watches and online radio, and skimming pennies by keeping the base model iPhone gimped with 2010 era storage. Some time soon, Apple is gonna realize that it has squandered every advantage it had after Steve Jobs passed.

They keep their R&D private so we don't know they're not working on those things.

Since iPhone, they've launched iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and numerous updates to existing products as well as expanding product categories (like iPad mini).

People need to get over Steve Jobs being gone: it's too hard to make a call on what he was responsible for. The biggest notable change is we don't have his charm selling us new products.

Getting Beats to build Apple Music was smart. They have all the industry connections. Would you rather the iTunes Store had remained the only way to get music? That seems more like squandering their advantage rather than trying to leapfrog people who are proving competitive.
 
If we could buy just the bands, that'd be great!
Give it a time you'll get a copied version and you can't hardly tell which one is genuine. They're 100% leather too and the only thing you're missing is the brand name. :)
 
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It is funny how there are always comments about Apple Watch 2 on AW threads. Guys, if you wanna buy it, just do it. You really don't need to hold until the 2nd gen comes along in order to justify your desire of buying one. The first gen is pretty solid already and I doubt the 2nd gen will be much different. By the way, this Hermès edition looks pretty sleek and I would definitely sell my current SS AW to get this one if the price was not so high!
 
After Steve Jobs died, I would never have thought they would waste billions of dollars buying up Beats

How was that money wasted? Beats headphones are still the best selling headphones on the planet, regardless of what some people might think of their quality. It makes Apple good money and the way they are developing the tech ensures that it will be likes this for a long time to come.

I think many people have personal sentiments about Beats that clouds their reasoning on the business side.
 
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And will they adopt the famous rude attitude of Hermes sales people? It's part of the Schlick that makes a piece of leather sell for thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars
 
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After Steve Jobs died, I would never have thought they would waste billions of dollars buying up Beats and selling ridiculous $20K gold watches. And people wonder why Apple is STILL so dependent on the iPhone to produce most of their profits...they haven't actually done anything new or interesting since.

Apple's NON-iPhone revenue is as big as the whole Microsoft, and growing fast.
The iPhone being a behemoth does not imply the firm isn't thriving elsewhere.

Also, $3B for Beats was basically a steal. This deal will pay itself in just a few years. Compare that to the $7B writeoff of Nokia (Microsoft) or the $12B writeoff of Motorola (Google). In short, you have no idea of what you're talking about.

There's so many fascinating things Apple could be investing their money in (artificial intelligence, quantum computing enabled cloud services, carbon nanotube computing, neural network sensor integration), but instead they're wasting it on gaudy watches and online radio, and skimming pennies by keeping the base model iPhone gimped with 2010 era storage. Some time soon, Apple is gonna realize that it has squandered every advantage it had after Steve Jobs passed.

And Apple is totally famous for announcing vaporware years before actual products... not.

You're a hater with no knowledge whatsoever on how Apple operates and what makes Apple ticking. Hint: it's not nanotubes.
 
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Give it a time you'll get a copied version and you can't hardly tell which one is genuine. They're 100% leather too and the only thing you're missing is the brand name. :)
And not just copies. There are/will be hundreds of great quality, good looking bands made. Certainly possible to be 'fashionable' without spending mega bucks.
 
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The first gen is pretty solid already and I doubt the 2nd gen will be much different

I'll give you that. However I would've thought the second effort will try to be a lot less solid. And smaller too. At least light enough not to be a drowning risk if you go swimming with it as it is now :) Having said that, the gold edition of the Apple watch is priced at $10,000. If I wanted to spend $10,000 on something that'll be obsolete in 3 years, I'd buy an engagement ring.
 
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I don't have an Apple Watch yet, and I don't plan to buy one with a fashion band, but I don't like people feel superior in any way just because they have different interests
We are old man max ;) this is how youth communicate these days.

Image is everything , with that comes putting people down for thier choices.

Though let's be honest most of the people on here have a superiority complex when it comes to Apple Hardware/software vs PCs/android , and it status quo, though someone puts down an apple product, it's blasphemy :) though take it with a pinch of salt, it's an apple fan site.
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You almost have a point... Anyone buying an Apple device just for the name is clearly a **** too.

Logically that would make most of the population ****s. Everyone develops brand loyalty during thier lives , be it a TV, car, show brand, Pepsi/Coke etc.....

Unless they are an owesome hipster beyond all that....though ironically they also seem to end up with Apple products ;)
 
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Logically that would make most of the population ****s. Everyone develops brand loyalty during thier lives , be it a TV, car, show brand, Pepsi/Coke etc.....
Ah, not the same thing. This is not about loyalty, but rather image. People obsessed with image have no 'brand loyalty' and will move with the perceived trends.

Latest and greatest, not old and reliable.
 
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