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Apple to Sell Software via Software Update?

S-UD allows downloads to desktop?

Originally posted by Mr.Hey
S-UD allows you to download to the desktop instead of direct install; just take those files and burn them to CD-Rs.
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I didn't know that was possible. How?

I see a check-box for "Download important updates in the background." Is that it?

I'd prefer to have all the updaters on my system, so I don't have to download a whole gaggle of updaters if I have to re-install the system.
 
personally i would prefer that they keep it separate to software update. I.E. they don't use software update to buy the software; They have a separate app to download and update non panther software purchased from apple store. On another note... call me completely paranoid.( your paranoid!) i don't believe in big brother! I don't like the idea of sending apple the details of every app i have installed even apps that i didn't purchase from apple that i purchased from 3rd parties. so that they can upload the updates to me. I know its silly, and completely illogical, but if that was the case i would prefer to download the updates manually and anonymously. For me this was one of the reasons that I try to leave MS behind. Don't like their big bro policy. Hopefully Apple would be able to implement this without the big bro worries this would cause me and other users.
 
Horrible. Just wait till Apple starts charging for OS updates, QuickTime Updates, iApp updates....

Oh you think they won't? Remember iTools? Do ya?
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lol I knew there would be one pessimist to accuse Apple of some update conspiracy

iTools an software updates are two very different things--so are upDATES and upGRADES
 
Re: S-UD allows downloads to desktop?

Originally posted by splashman
I didn't know that was possible. How?

I see a check-box for "Download important updates in the background." Is that it?

I'd prefer to have all the updaters on my system, so I don't have to download a whole gaggle of updaters if I have to re-install the system.
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I believe its the option in the "Update" menu that says Download Only.
 
We need to look at the big picture in all this. Third party resellers are already complaining about current Apple policies concerning hardware sales and warranty repair policies. Would the ability to buy all our software from Apple's built-in service make them any happier?

The way these events fall into place, I'm beginning to wonder if Apple's trying to move complete control of the platform in-house and eleminate all third party involvement.

From what I've seen Apple is doing the best job exposing the public to the Macintosh platform via the Apple Stores. But Apple isn't putting Apple stores in every city a Macintosh reseller exists in now. Even if they do the best job, that doesn't mean I want them to be the only game in town. The way it stands right now if Apple stores were the only choice I had I'd have to drive over 300 miles to get ot one.

Also, with all the whooplah we've given Microsoft about embedding everything into the OS and the unfair advantage that gives them compared to competitors, I find it interesting people aren't associating Safari, iTunes (and QuickTime), and this new selling inititive as the same thing.
 
Hmm... Has this always been here!??!?!?!?
 

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It's not the same as MS. Reason being is by allows 3rd party vendors which also include MS to sell it's product directly to Mac users and cut some over head out of it.

I know the reason Apple wants to do it because it will help generate more profits and allows them cut some overhead when selling their own products.

I could see the next upgrade of OS X selling via DL for only maybe $99-110.
While the boxed ver. goes for $129.
 
Originally posted by azdude
Hmm... Has this always been here!??!?!?!?
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Do you have reg account or edu account?

I just checked mine and it's not listed as such but I do have edu account.
 
I qualify for individual edu purchases, but I don't think I have any special membership.
 
Maybe you've been picked to be some kinda of beta tester for this new service.
 
Originally posted by azdude
Hmm... Has this always been here!??!?!?!?
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I also have that option. Listed in that option was my Quick Time Pro key purchase. It also listed my Quick Time Pro registration number... wish I had known about that link back after I had installed os 10.3 from a clean install.
 
Yeah the license key section makes perfect sense... but they are not covert in calling it "Software DOWNLOAD Purchases." Odd.
 
Originally posted by McToast
Horrible. Just wait till Apple starts charging for OS updates, QuickTime Updates, iApp updates....

Oh you think they won't? Remember iTools? Do ya?:rolleyes:
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Apple already does this. Its called Panther. Jaguar. And <insert 10.4 codename here>.
 
Originally posted by azdude
Hmm... Has this always been here!??!?!?!?
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Don't know about always, but its been there for a long time, at least since the availability of the MPEG-2 QT plugin. Whenever they update it I just download it from there.
 
Since this is all just speculation right now...

Let's hope Apple isn't intending to risk using a DRM activation with downloaded software purchases similar to iTMS, making it capable of running on a limited number of authorized systems.
 
Hmm..with manuals increasingly on the way out in being packaged with software this makes sense. Albeit pro apps such as Final Cut or even Express may prove to be a long print if the documentation is included with the software.
 
Originally posted by azdude
Hmm... Has this always been here!??!?!?!?
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Yeah.... the Quicktime MPEG-2 component was sold as a download purchase from the Apple store.

arn
 
Originally posted by sjk
Since this is all just speculation right now...

Let's hope Apple isn't intending to risk using a DRM activation with downloaded software purchases similar to iTMS, making it capable of running on a limited number of authorized systems.
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As long as it was a seamless background process and they made it public and not sneaked in somehow, why not?

"2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, ..."

They would only be covering themselves from accidental misuse of their software.
 
Good in principle, but I hope they are very se;ective who they allow to sell through here, I don't want it comin up every five minutes, notifying e of something new.

I expect first they will provide .mac customers updates through here, then extend to rest .
 
Beautiful - if true!

Here in the UK, there simply aren't enough bricks & mortar Apple resellers to worry about upsetting.

If this concept allows Apple to afford its customers access to a wide range of software - including titles that are not necessarily available in a given territory - thus countering the apathy and ignorance of some of the larger 'multiple' partners (PC World in the UK, insert your our bete noire for your country), then surely this is a good thing.
 
I wonder if software update will be renamed to reflect these changes as going into software update to buy a new program would certainly be strange, and obviously not the first place you'd look... esp newbies.
 
I'm still all for it though, downloading a program, even 650MB (Like a cd), from good, fast servers, would be so much quicker and more convienient than waiting for the Apple Store to deliver it...

hopefully, without any hardcopies of anything, they can make the programs cheaper!!...
 
Originally posted by Billicus
Exactly. Hopefully it'll just be a seperate tab for purchasing software rather than updating purchased software.
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maybe they'll rename the prefpane to "software purchase and update", kinda like the way Apple combines keyboard and mouse, and print and fax and desktop and screensavers.
 
I don't like the idea-- not in Software Update, or anywhere in the menu structure...

I don't want SU cluttered with things I can buy (especially with one click!). Software Update is a great tool, and supporting 3rd party updates isn't a bad idea as long as it's smart about what it shows me-- the current method of listing iPod and Airport Extreme updates that I can't use because I don't have the hardware drives me nuts.

I already don't like a menu slot taken with "Mac OS X Software". I can find their website just fine, thank you...

I would consider it a win if I could download apps from their website though. I just don't want an OS littered with commercials...
 
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