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If you read the post you'd know that the store hasn't opened yet, it opens on Saturday, so the employees are there checking it out for the first time I assume.

I would really truly love it, if the UK got a major brand new flagship Apple store, I mean our Largest is Regent Street in London. Thats an amazing store, but opened over 5 years ago. We need something new like open one in York or something :). They could mix ancient architecture what Yorks full of, with Apple's ideas/tech like there modern glass ceilings, aluminium walls, Maple wood desks, it would look amazing

Make this a second vote for a York store, no idea why there isn't one already.
 
I've never been to that area, but from the photo's it looks really easy to reverse a car through the front and take whatever you want - if that shop was built here there would be fugly steel shutter over it at night and rows of steel posts to stop ram raiders !!!!
I can't see someone backing their car through thick, tall pane glass windows in the middle of a populated area, up over the curb, around the street trees, and steal everything in the store before 1) the security guard(s) nail the driver, or 2) the police arrive.
 
Apple has to move to huge up-scale store to counter Microsoft's recent plan to copy the Apple mall store and locate them next door to existing Apple stores.

Microsoft simply can't build a huge high visibility store next to an Apple flagship retail store. Yes they have the money but it would be pointless, who would walk into a MS store just to see what Windows is like? Everyone already knows. Microsoft might get people into a mall store but not to drive or take subway to an MS store.

I'm sure Miicrosoft's plan was not to sell products next door to Apple but just to copy the store so as to make it look no-longer "special". Their plan was good: put in 100 crappy stores that look like Apple stores so Apple looks like one of those 100 crappy stores. It would have worked it Apple had not decided to simply upscale and move out of the shopping mall.

as any industry matures there is consolidation and companies become more vertically integrated. Think Exxon, they discover new oil and sell it to you from their gas stations. Apple either got lucky or someone figured it out that they needed to get with the historical trend
 
Do some research

so much for being a "green" company with huge stores like that, ha.

Talk about missing the big picture. Take a read at

http://www.apple.com/environment

Guess what? Facilities constitute only 3% of Apple’s lifecycle environmental impact, of which the Apple Store are but a fraction

Product use by consumers constitutes 53% of the environmental impact. Apple positively does 20X more by making sure that MacBook runs on just 15 watts at full power and almost zero when it sleeps than by making “green” buildings
 
Looks pretty sunny to me....

Looks pretty sunny to me (see Google Earth attachment). Maybe that's why ifoAppleStore calls it "flooded with sunlight during the day".


This does not change the fact that you initially stated southern exposure.

Yes, where "southern exposure" means the some of the sky in the compass quadrant from Southeast to Southwest is visible, not that "the horizon at compass point 180.0° is visible".


The building, directly across the street, happens to be a 39 story hi-rise, set behind the Gracious Home store.

And "set behind" is the key - that tower will block the sun for a time during early morning. Look at the Google Earth attachment.


Perhaps, if you weren't so geographically challenged, you might have noticed that Broadway, as well as the building's exposure, faces NE at 67th street, since Broadway angles east toward Columbus Circle before aligning south - this making your latest presumptions all the more preposterous.

No, at 67th Street Broadway runs almost exactly north-south. Look at the compass rose on the Google Earth attachment, or at any map.


From nowhere, inside of the building, can one see south, let alone the southern sky, as it is sufficiently blocked by the 32 story building above the Pottery Barn, across 67th street.

Due to the setback of the tower behind the Pottery Barn, you'll be able to look out the southern window and see the sky due south from the front of the store.

This picture shows a heap of southern sky.

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http://gothamist.com/2009/11/12/the_uws_gets_its_very_own_apple_sto.php?gallery0Pic=16#gallery



The roof of the building is glass, and that being on the north-east corner of the intersection, with no tall buildings to the south or west, it gets full sun throughout the day.

Clearly I was wrong about no tall buildings to the south - the Google Earth shot doesn't make the height of the building to the south obvious (although clearly the one to the east is obviously tall). Street-view and 3D buildings make it apparent.

As seen in the photo above and the street-view below, those buildings will block the direct sun from mid-day to sometime in the afternoon. (More in winter, less in summer of course.) There will be plenty of skylight from the southern exposure regardless.

All this in response to a joke about matte screens.... :rolleyes:
 

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...it looks really easy to reverse a car through the front and take whatever you want...

I can't see someone backing their car through thick, tall pane glass windows in the middle of a populated area, up over the curb, around the street trees, and steal everything in the store before 1) the security guard(s) nail the driver, or 2) the police arrive.

If you try that, borrow an armored truck or military tank - otherwise you'd likely die as tons and tons of sharp chunks of thick broken glass fall on your car and crush it.
 
I remember back when Mars Music closed, the CEO gave those exact reasons why the stores failed.

Apple tends to do better at things then other companies, but I think this will still fail.

I mean I don't what a huge sterile iconic store. I want a store that I feel welcome at, were I can find the things I like a good prices. That's what Apple should be focusing on on a retail level.

Judging from those photos, I would not step foot into that store. It's horrible, looks so half-assed.

I think the CEO (and this is just me) might have wanted to acknowledge that there wasn't a market for the products he was selling. Who in the world needs an amp, bass, or trumpet for their everyday lives? No one aside from a musician. Who needs a computer? Just about everyone. It's dumb of someone to compare the two and then blame the store's design instead of a failed business model for an extremely specialized selection.

If the Apple retail space is making 5-to-1 more than a Best Buy per space, that's extremely telling. Their stores don't feel as generic as many competitors (read: cheap). What's the defining difference between Best Buy, Target, Wal-mart, Staples, OfficeMax, etc in their respective computer sections? There isn't one, so that drives almost no brand loyalty, and people will just opt for whatever's closest. Many consumers like to feel like the staff of a store knows more about the product than where it is. Can you get tech advice in one of the other stores? Hell, that can barely tell you where to find detergent or pens.

On a final note, if clean, minimalist architecture and open space is "half-assed" looking to you, then I would hate to see what your house looks like.
 
Powerful, elegant, awe inspiring. That building gets my vote for best apple store, by far. The arch makes it so much better than the cube, one glass side and glass ceiling are surprisingly perfect.

The one qualm - good lord, think what it costs to heat and cool that place. Hard to sell your computer as eco-friendly with a hundred feet of excess hot air above you, rapidly cooled by the glass above that.

Taking a look though - no ductwork, clearly. Radiant heating and cooling in those floors. Perhaps that's a common (universal?) apple store feature - radiant heating, so we don't have to see any heat vents. Certainly a good idea in a store like that.
 
Powerful, elegant, awe inspiring. That building gets my vote for best apple store, by far. The arch makes it so much better than the cube, one glass side and glass ceiling are surprisingly perfect.

The one qualm - good lord, think what it costs to heat and cool that place. Hard to sell your computer as eco-friendly with a hundred feet of excess hot air above you, rapidly cooled by the glass above that.

Taking a look though - no ductwork, clearly. Radiant heating and cooling in those floors. Perhaps that's a common (universal?) apple store feature - radiant heating, so we don't have to see any heat vents. Certainly a good idea in a store like that.

New York buildings often use steam to heat, generated at central con ed plants. But heating a greenhouse is easy - probably the bigger problem is cooling, though one would assume that the glass blocks most of the UV.
 
...though one would assume that the glass blocks most of the UV.

But it transmits IR, unless it's low-E.

Often low-E glass has a color tinge, which might not have fit in with the design of the UWS store.

(I replaced all of the windows and sliding glass doors in my house, and used low-E even on the north side because I didn't want a color difference.)
 
They had that at ASDA in the UK as well. I always felt quite disgusted by the idea that a company pays someone minimum wage to say "Welcome at our store, Sir". Like prostitution really when you think about it.

Dude - you were only meant to take a basket from them, not ask for 5 minutes in the stock room! :eek:


:D
 
Yes?

How does this remind you of Ikea? It is not a giant cinderblock rectangle painted blue with a now-Verdana logo on it.

Funny, but when I go buying I feel better if the store is cinderblock rather than marble and granite and stainless steel and acres of glass. Somehow it gives me a feeling that the merchant isn't putting an obscene markup on the product. (AKA "margin")

When I go "shopping", though, temples to conspicuous consumption are fun. My debit card stays in my wallet, though....
 
Looks pretty sunny to me (see Google Earth attachment). Maybe that's why ifoAppleStore calls it "flooded with sunlight during the day".
Another attempt to avert the issue, I see.

Yes, where "southern exposure" means the some of the sky in the compass quadrant from Southeast to Southwest is visible, not that "the horizon at compass point 180.0° is visible".

Your failed attempts at defending your erroneous assessment of 'southern exposure' at the new Apple Store are quite revealing.
See un-warped photo below:

appleUWS1109.jpg

actual interior - upper floor (click to enlarge)

Clearly, from inside of the store, the 45 foot marble wall prevents all, and any, exposure to the south. The slightly concaved glass ceiling,

from the vantage point of 45 feet below, will provide a singular exposure: up.

Your inclusion, however, of the warped publicity rendering of the store, in a desperate attempt to cling to your flawed assertion,

only functions to reduce your credibility further:

applestore11092a.jpg

Due to the setback of the tower behind the Pottery Barn, you'll be able to look out the southern window and see the sky due south from the front of the store.
This picture shows a heap of southern sky.
From your wishful, yet delusional perception, perhaps - in reality, no. The atrium, at the front of the store, is not inside the store. From inside the store,

where products are displayed, sunlight will hardly be an issue. Furthermore, the minimal setback of the tower behind the Pottery Barn on 67th will bear little significance for clinging

to your ludicrous claims - wishing so does not make it so.

And "set behind" is the key...

Set behind is the key? Do you truly believe that having a 480 foot building set back a mere 35 feet is going to make a profound difference? Perhaps, you subliminally do realize the foolishness

of your remarks, since you feebly continue to modify your original statements:

Perhaps the geographically challenged should think before posting.

The front (Broadway) is facing east, so until solar noon it gets direct sun.

backpedalling:

Directly across the street (67th) is a 4 or 5 story building. The highrise buildings are further away.

backpedalling further:
that tower will block the sun for a time during early morning

Priceless.

Clearly I was wrong about no tall buildings to the south - the Google Earth shot doesn't make the height of the building to the south obvious (although clearly the one to the east is obviously tall). Street-view and 3D buildings make it apparent.

Yes, clearly you were. As you were wrong about "no tall buildings" to the east, as well as "southern exposure."

All this in response to a joke about matte screens.... :rolleyes:

It all stemmed from your smug and flippant remark, which all but confirmed your utter lack of sensibility:

Maybe all that glass with a southern exposure will lead to the re-introduction of matte screens on all Apples.... ;)


(pun intended...)
 
Wow. Just wow.

The atrium, at the front of the store, is not inside the store. From inside the store, where products are displayed, sunlight will hardly be an issue.

So, you have to pretend that some parts of the store inside the store aren't "inside the store" for your argument?

That's priceless....

No point in even wasting the time countering your other warped arguments at this rate.
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Too bad that tomorrow's forecast is for NYC to be rainy all day, otherwise someone with a cellphone camera could stand at 11:40:18 AM in the northeast corner of the store (the obtuse one) and take a picture of the southeast corner (the acute one).

I'd love to see DMann try to wiggle his way out of explaining that solar disk in the photo. He redefines "backpedaling" by claiming that he's pedaling....
 
So, you have to pretend that some parts of the store inside the store aren't "inside the store" for your argument?

By your logic, then, the interior of "the cube" at 5th Avenue constitutes the store.

You've brought priceless to an entirely new level.

No point in even wasting the time countering your submitting other warped arguments at this rate.

I'd love to see DMann try to wiggle his way out of explaining that solar disk in the photo. He redefines "backpedaling" by claiming that he's pedaling....

Did I claim that the sun would never shine above the store? No.

Did you make lame attempts at defending "southern exposure" in reference to the computers on display? Yes.

Backpedal away.
 
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