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I 've been a windows user till 25 and then Mac for the next 10 years.. I swore I'd never go back to Windows but I can't help but think how much better Microsoft are getting.. I still think Mac has an advantage but I feel like Microsoft are catching quickly and potentially could surpass Apple in the next couple of years..

There designs look great and I like the sound of Windows 10 S simplicity..

My main hope is that it motivates Apple again.
 
"iTunes, is, of course, already available on the Windows platform, but adding it to the Windows Store will make it easier for Windows users to find the software."

I bet far more Windows users know how to go to apple.com and download iTunes than know how to navigate the Windows Store.
 
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One less thing that I don't have to push out in Bigfix
 
I think this is really interesting. Doesn't the windows App Store for the 10 S require apps to use the Edge rendering engine for the web? Isn't the iTunes music store (and possibly Apple Music) basically rendering very specific web content? That seems like a pretty heavy rewrite if so. Would certainly explain why it will take so long to move to the windows App Store.

Also, there's lots of thoughts on why Apple would do this. Did Microsoft ask them to to help legitimize their App Store? Does Microsoft have leverage over Apple here (Microsoft does provide office for Mac, and does up to the moment things for Apple like provide touch bar support)?
 
This will allow for easier installing, updating and uninstalling. It's also great for discoverability.
Hm, I have been using Windows 10 since it was available and haven't opened the app store once. Didn't even know they now allow classic Windows applications. It's about the last place I'd discover anything. :p
 
Finally I can listen to Apple Music on my W10 machines without iTunes and uninstall that bloated POS iTunes for good.
 
It makes a lot of sense.

But it's probably the clunkiest app there... So much for Windows 10 S running faster.
And so much for "good for education purpose". Windows 10 Education edition is FAR BETTER than this crap in every way.
It's kinda crap on a Mac too, used to be a great Music player in the beginning, now it's a load of whatever.
And latest iTunes 12.6 is a disaster. I fought with it about a day just to be able to update metadata on multiple albums, which worked perfectly fine on iTunes 12.5.
I guess some of the restrictions have been relaxed for win32 apps--e.g., they are able to access files in your user profile (where your music library likely lives) and not just in the application's own sandbox.
I Store my library on an external drive so maybe not good for me?
 
I think what's happening is Apple joining forces with Microsoft to combat Google in the EDU field.
10 S allows apps from the app store only.
 
Urrr... you are still going to use iTunes. We just don't know if it's a entire rewrite to the current one or not.
If it not a native app just the regular iTunes in the W10 store then what is the point. Just release a web player like every other service out there.
 
Reasons I, as a Windows desktop user, don't even care about this:
  1. I'm not running Windows 10.
  2. I wouldn't want to restrict myself to apps only on the Windows Store if they paid me. Have you seen the restrictions for web browsers on Windows 10 S?
  3. It doesn't seem to mean Apple will be releasing an all-new version of iTunes on Windows that doesn't suck. Somehow they have managed to get the existing one approved for the Windows Store. So it's a one-off exception as I thought Windows Store apps had to support the Microsoft previousy-called-Metro interface guidelines.
  4. New iTunes interface still sucks. Will continue to use version 10.7 since I have no iDevices that require a newer one.
 
If it not a native app just the regular iTunes in the W10 store then what is the point. Just release a web player like every other service out there.

The point of this release is for Windows 10 S. 10 S users are restricted to only download applications from the Windows Store and it makes sense for Apple to release iTunes on it so 10 S users can sync their iOS devices as well as purchase content.

You are definitely right though if the user has Windows 10 Home or Pro versions.
 
Reasons I, as a Windows desktop user, don't even care about this:
  1. I'm not running Windows 10.
  2. I wouldn't want to restrict myself to apps only on the Windows Store if they paid me. Have you seen the restrictions for web browsers on Windows 10 S?
  3. It doesn't seem to mean Apple will be releasing an all-new version of iTunes on Windows that doesn't suck. Somehow they have managed to get the existing one approved for the Windows Store. So it's a one-off exception as I thought Windows Store apps had to support the Microsoft previousy-called-Metro interface guidelines.
  4. New iTunes interface still sucks. Will continue to use version 10.7 since I have no iDevices that require a newer one.

Windows 10 in no way restricts you to only apps installed via the store UNLESS you specifically have a device that has the low cost low feature "Windows 10 S" OS. So nothing to worry about. To point 3, totally agree thats possible. Windows 10 has support for either just selling a normal win32 app in the store, or porting a win32 app to the store app format (im oversimplifing). This in no way suggests an actual rewrite.

I have no issues with iTunes as is myself aside from the massive disk activity hit my system takes when closing it. I would really love to know what and why iTunes is writing to disk and insists on sucking up all my system bandwidth on EVERY close. I suspect it has sonething to to with the database file it uses to maintain the library. There has GOT to be a beter way than just a giant glorified xml file.
 
How about Apple fix iOS so iTunes is never required for an iOS device again?
This may not happen any time soon because iOS is not bug free.
It isn't required buddy. :)

There are OTA updates and an iPhone can be set up and used just fine without ever touching iTunes.
Until your iOS broken. You will need a computer to do something serious to bring back your broken iOS to working condition.
It already is that way I almost never connect my phone to my mac anymore
Good luck for you to never encounter any serious bug bricking your device.
Btw, iOS update could brick your device when Apple did something wrong.
I wonder if at some point they will force everything via it like iOS?
Maybe. But so many professional software would cease working and Microsoft will lose market share rapidly if not instantly.
And since Windows 10s is aimed at education where Chromebooks shine that's why Chrome will never be a Windows Store app.
Windows 10 education edition can do far more than windows 10 S do to ensure student cannot run shaddy programs. Group policy, app locker, standard user, UAC, and much more.
Let’s not forget Linux!
Forget about Linux. Apple could bring iMessage to android or windows but never Linux. It is still and will be a niche desktop platform for quite a long time.
You dont need itunes.. I havent used itunes in god knows how long.
I need. I have local library to go and iOS music app constantly mess things up requiring me to fix using iTunes.

Glad to see you don't need iTunes.
 
You dont need itunes.. I havent used itunes in god knows how long.

how do you listen to Apple music or beats radio on your computer?

Listen, yes, most people can get away with never ever needing iTunes, especially if they're lucky enough never to need to recover a bricked iOS device.

BUT, iTunes is the ONLY software you can use to listen to Apple music or beats radio on a computer. at all. There's no other alternative. With 20million subscribers to A-Music, I can assure you, some measure of them are also computer users
 
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iMessage and FaceTime on android, I would switch to a galaxy so quick,

And here we have why it won't happen.
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If it not a native app just the regular iTunes in the W10 store then what is the point. Just release a web player like every other service out there.

Getting the app in the store prepared for a future where Microsoft installs S on most laptops and people are basically restricted to the store.
 
Everyone on Windows tells me iTunes is really slow on that platform. iTunes in general needs a reworking, so they might as well overhaul the thing first.
 
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about time. itunes on windows sucks. if they want more apple music subscribers then they need to fix.
 
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Glad to see Apple jump on board with this.

Why is it a big deal you csn download anyways on windows 10
For the same reason the Mac App Store is important to me on MacOS-- trusted source. I download as little as I can now from random websites, even from big companies.
This is really meta
Really meta would be offering the Mac App Store through the Windows Store.
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about time. itunes on windows sucks. if they want more apple music subscribers then they need to fix.
Don't feel bad. iTunes on MacOS sucks too.
 
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I have no issues with iTunes as is myself aside from the massive disk activity hit my system takes when closing it.
This what is causing it. Every song you listen to on AM creates a *.m4p file cache for faster playback. The problem is that it does not delete the old files automatically. Before I knew how to check on it figured it out my self as googling was utterly useless as always I found over 2GB of files. So now every few days I manually delete those *.m4p files so they don't grow.
 

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It will be the same desktop app, just available through the Store thanks to Microsoft's Bridge technology. Even traditional desktop Windows desktop applications like Microsoft Office will be available through the Windows Store going forward.
 
This may not happen any time soon because iOS is not bug free.

Until your iOS broken. You will need a computer to do something serious to bring back your broken iOS to working condition.

Good luck for you to never encounter any serious bug bricking your device.
Btw, iOS update could brick your device when Apple did something wrong.

Maybe. But so many professional software would cease working and Microsoft will lose market share rapidly if not instantly.

Windows 10 education edition can do far more than windows 10 S do to ensure student cannot run shaddy programs. Group policy, app locker, standard user, UAC, and much more.

Forget about Linux. Apple could bring iMessage to android or windows but never Linux. It is still and will be a niche desktop platform for quite a long time.

I need. I have local library to go and iOS music app constantly mess things up requiring me to fix using iTunes.

Glad to see you don't need iTunes.
Microsoft makes Visual Studio, SQL server, PowerShell, Skype, and fonts for Linux

There’s also the Windows Subsystem for Linux, which gives you a Linux BASH shell on Windows - originally just Ubuntu BASH but they’re adding BASH for SUSE and Fedora to Windows. Microsoft has even contributed some code to make Linux work better with Hyper-V. And let’s not forget about Microsoft’s own use of Linux for its severs, including Azure, and its switches (Azure Cloud Switch).

If Microsoft is willing to embrace Linux and develop software for it, so should Apple. Either that, or Apple should just make a web version of iTunes where you can download your content DRM-free, though I doubt the studios will allow that. We either need iTunes on Linux, or DRM-free iTunes downloads. Some of us are heavily invested in iTunes and don’t want to lose our iTunes content if we switch to Linux.
 
Everyone on Windows tells me iTunes is really slow on that platform. iTunes in general needs a reworking, so they might as well overhaul the thing first.

Agreed. iTunes is discombobulated and really could use some revamping. I think Apple Music was a step in the right direction and I think iTunes hopefully is on the list for improvements.
 
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