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Apple to Start Reopening U.S. Stores Next Week
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I love our local Apple store, but I am fine shopping on line for now. I wouldn't expect ours (Hawaii) to open other than for pick ups for another 3 weeks.
I agreed with you, about data presentation, until the last statement. In the USA, if you remove the early centers of concentration (NYC, NOLA, Detroit), it's obvious that COVID is on the rise. It's just spreading out from the most susceptible concentrated urban centers to all the secondary places.
Pretty close to the same death rate
It’s at least 10x the death rate of flu, spreads exponentially faster, and you can spread it for several days before you show any symptoms. With flu you feel symptoms within a day or two.
Edit: The director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has put the virus’s mortality rate at about 2%, while the WHO has estimated 3.4%. Flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%. So covid19 is about 20x more deadly than flu, according to the US government, and at least 30x more deadly than flu according to the rest of the world.
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The point is that anything that is less than an exponential growth is showing a slow-down and control. In our metro area, new cases are actually flattening out, which shows significant control.
LOL. You need to learn how to read data. First of all the death rate is being reported as number of deaths DIVIDED by positive tests.
The leading expert epidemiologists have said without absolute certainty that there are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands who had this or have this and didn't even know it. Some believe the number is being under reported by 10 fold and some up to 75 fold. SO take the number of positive tests and split the difference and multiply the positive tests by 35 and then take the deaths and divide it into that number. As I said about the same death rate as the Flu. Please understand the data and stop watching the media.
Funny you wrote that this thing spreads exponentially faster and many have said it is much much much more contagious than the flu is but you think only 182,000 in NYC got this when 20 million people live right on top of each other. Thanks for the chuckle. My guess is they will find out 2-5M people had this in NYC at some point.
Not in my state. The number of hospital/ER visits for COVID and flu-like symptoms had a peak within 25% of the last two years. In all, less than 5% of hospital visits are for COVID/flu-like symptoms. The only significant difference is that it's lasting longer than seasonal flu.
The important metric isn't how fast it spreads, the important metric is how fast it spreads times the percentage of severe cases, versus the flu. I think we're finding out that both terms are highly overestimated, in part due to biases in the population which we test.
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It’s not for the purpose of keeping yourself safe, but rather to keep others safe.
Hospitals are running out of cash and have closed. Even my local hospital system is losing $120m a month. They will begin to furlough workers soon. Please tell me more about this extra money.
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Why is it impossible for Americans to do anything for the greater good? How ****ing hard is it to wear a face mask? Get ahold of yourself.
This thread is an absolute goldmine of science deniers to add to my ignore list
Yes apparently you do not understand the data when you read it.
I suggest you read the things Jeffrey Shaman from Columbia University wrote.
Because the most vocal minority of us are self absorbed a holes.
The difference is that the pandemic is not over, and I live close to areas that are affected - and so do many other people; some are right in the heart of the most affected areas, which are not limited to the US, let alone NC. Your analogies make absolutely no sense in context of my original post.
Serious question. When WON'T it be "too soon" for you? Whether it's tomorrow, next week, or a year from now...SOMEONE is going to shout "it's too soon".
And don't tell me that the answer is "when we have a vaccine". The odds of that aren't exactly on our side. If you need proof of that...look at the other coronaviruses we don't have a vaccine yet, even though it's been YEARS since those outbreaks happened. SARS and MERS, come to mind.
The nominal death rate in the US over two months is 487,000. The question isn't whether people die. The question is how it compares to other causes of deaths. The majority of people grossly misestimate risks and causes of deaths.
The number of people in the US who die from slip, trips, and falls annually, (17k) is 45% that of car accidents (38k), and greater than those who die from AIDS-related illnesses (13k). Yet we say that cars are dangerous, educate kids about HIV, and completely ignore rugs and hard floors.
you have to wear masks in any store and public transportation in Germany and Austria, that’s not exclusive to Apple. Therefore it may not be the same in the US
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Richest company on the planet cannot wait to get their stores open. They're not making enough money, obviously.
As to the 'too soon comment' - it's too soon when the R Value is close to 1. Whether that's tomorrow, next month or next year is irrelevant.
As to the 'too soon comment' - it's too soon when the R Value is close to 1. Whether that's tomorrow, next month or next year is irrelevant.
I can't imagine walking in to an Apple Store and touching any screen on any device in the store. On a perfect day it's pretty disgusting.
.1% vs .3%, so basically, yes.
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Same. There are plenty of places to buy things that aren't run by paranoid weirdos.
If certain states say retail stores can now open why would Apple keep their stores closed in those states? Since these lockdowns started essential stores like grocery, Walmart, Target, drug stores etc. have been open and there weren’t mass infections or deaths because of it. Apple will limit the number of people in stores, do temperature checks and require masks. Seems prudent to me.
The director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has put the virus’s mortality rate at about 2%, while the WHO has estimated 3.4%. The flu has a 0.1% mortality rate.
It’s 20-30x more deadly than flu. It’s not even close. Where did you get that 0.3% mortality rate number from?
You probably don't push the "walk" button when you cross the street either, do you? Those are for weenies. You da man! /s