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Apple to Use 'San Francisco' Apple Watch Font in iOS 9 and OS X 10.11

ThomasJL said:
How about going back to the Jobs-era trend of innovating instead of copying Microsoft and Google? Specifically, I mean how about going back to the iOS 6 fonts and skeuomorphic design instead of continuing to copy Microsoft and Google's implementation of thin fonts and flat design?
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What exactly is innovative about skeuomorphism? Apple was being left behind. In some cases they still are behind. Siri should be leapfrogging ahead of Google now and Cortana. Where is the third-party API for Siri? Maps still need lots of improvement. How about moving away from an app centric pull model to more of a push model that feeds me contextually relevant information rather than me having to go search for it app by app. I think the Watch will force Apple to do some of these things. I want Apple's version of Google Now on the Watch. I'm hoping some of that comes to iOS. Complications on the lock screen would be awesome. I'd love force touch with control center so I don't have to navigate to the settings app to change a Bluetooth or Wi-Fi connection. Or how about just more customization of control center in general so I can decide those things that are most important to have quick access to? Oh and I haven't even talked about iOS on the iPad. LOTS of room for improvement there.
 
The font looks completely different on the Watch. I prefer helvetica ultra-light on iOS.
 
Steve121178 said:
Marketing BS. They said that last year and we got iOS 8 & 10.10 which are far from perfect.
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They never said that last year. With the SL release, they specifically marketed it as having no features. (Which wasn't really true.)
 
Rogifan said:
I suppose Apple should get rid of extensions, 3rd party keyboards and actual notifications as well as those are too much like Android?

Apple needs OS X, iOS and Watch OS to have more visual consistency not less. I hope we get a dark theme in iOS but I won't be surprised if we don't see that until/if Apple ships iPhones with OLED displays.
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He was asking what happened to Apple, the "old" Apple. I offered a succinct explanation/intrepretation. You are entitled to want what you want. Others are, as well. You assume much.
 
Siannath said:
Repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown

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READ BEFORE UPGRADING SYSTEM FONT

It was DMCA'd quickly for a reason... If people install this font on their Yosemite machine it will take over the font that Apple chooses to use as the System font later on. This is bad news for people that upgrade from Yosemite -> 10.11
 
Cougarcat said:
They never said that last year.
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They said they were focusing on stability. Then they shipped iOS 8 that had more bugs at launch than any other iOS release I can remember. Then they shipped the botched 8.0.2 update that killed cellular access for 3 days. Appalling nonexistent QA!

I personally haven't been affected by some of the well documented issues with 10.10 but thousands and thousands of others can't all be wrong.
 
What's with the time?

Really looking forward to seeing times on my homescreen that look like

9: 41

12: 37

1: 00

:eek:
 
I disagree with the article that SF is flashier. SF is more utilitarian than Helvetica in my opinion.

I half heartedly support the change. I think Helvetica is prettier, and works with the linear style icons better. On the other hand, SF definitely is more legible. And it would be nice to have one font for everything (oh yeah except for Myriad).
 
Dang. There just went my hopes for a new "no new features" release like 10.6.... :(
 
DevNull0 said:
I was in a classroom in 2011 and I booted up my macbook in a room full of PC users. Someone commented how nice it was to hear the Apple chime and a few others joined in in agreement.

Part of what made Apple great was the consistent experience, the tech improved, the interface improved, but the look and feel stayed the same as much as possible without hurting innovation. The Macs had a refined feel and for decades, everyone associated that noise with their great apple experiences.

At the same time, MS would change all their sounds and the whole feel of the OS with each version so it was all just so much blah noise.

Now Apple wants to keep changing their look and feel over and over and over for the sake of change. Even getting rid of the white apple-pulse light just takes away from the premium Apple feel. If they have to change the font for some innovative reason, great…but when they keep changing it just so you always know you're on the NEW ONE, they destroy their own branding and they're just like MS.
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From the article....Ever since switching to particularly thin weights of Helvetica Neue in iOS 7, Apple has been chastised for using a font that emphasizes clean lines over readability, and San Francisco is intended to solve this.

I think clean lines AND readability is innovative. Maybe not 'holy cow we have cured cancer' innovative, but still innovative.
 
Steve121178 said:
They said they were focusing on stability. Then they shipped iOS 8 that had more bugs at launch than any other iOS release I can remember. Then they shipped the botched 8.0.2 update that killed cellular access for 3 days. Appalling nonexistent QA!

I personally haven't been affected by some of the well documented issues with 10.10 but thousands and thousands of others can't all be wrong.
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Maybe as a sidenote, but it wasn't marketed like Snow Leopard was, and with all the new features, it wasn't their focus.
 
DevNull0 said:
Part of what made Apple great was the consistent experience, the tech improved, the interface improved, but the look and feel stayed the same as much as possible without hurting innovation.
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And in this case the choice of Helvetica hurt innovation. It doesn't work for a portion of Apple customers., and not just a small group either, large enough portion that they added ways to fix the issues after release in point releases.

DevNull0 said:
Now Apple wants to keep changing their look and feel over and over and over for the sake of change.
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Nice assumption.
 
bwillwall said:
How exactly is Helvetica hard to read?
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Here's the two side by side. Helvetica's curves are very rounded, and similar for many different characters, too much consistency. SF has less consistency throughout the set to make the individual letters more identifiable. Also, Helvetica has very wide characters, so there's little space between them. SF has narrow characters, and can have a little more space between them even though the word is the same width. When the letters are stacked too close together it could be harder to read.

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