I think the dreams and the ideals were fine. It was the execution of them that was extremely poor.
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Apple to Use 'San Francisco' Apple Watch Font in iOS 9 and OS X 10.11
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I think the dreams and the ideals were fine. It was the execution of them that was extremely poor.
I get it. It's annoying when people are full of themselves. However, being patriotic is not something that should go away. You should be proud of your country as well, I understand it just shouldn't cross the border into just being jerks about it.
it's funny, America and Apple are similar in that way. They and their following act somewhat superior, and everybody else thinks it's acceptable, if not necessary to bash and hate on them like it's their job. Maybe we should all just do our own thing and not worry about the drama so much?
Here's the two fonts side by side from Ars Technica. San Francisco Display Ultralight (left) compared to Helvetica Neue Ultralight (right).
I hope this is true. Helvetica is a horrible font that should never have been used for operating systems' UI due to its poor readability. The Apple Watch font looks much nicer.
Down with Helvetica. Don't use it for books, don't use it for UI design. Only place it looks fine is in advertising.
For OS X though, I will always keep Lucida Grande as my font of choice. It is readable and a symbol of the operating system.
Down with Helvetica. Don't use it for books, don't use it for UI design. Only place it looks fine is in advertising.
For OS X though, I will always keep Lucida Grande as my font of choice. It is readable and a symbol of the operating system.
Hehe Beta Testing it right now.
That actually looks very nice! What doesn't look nice is their iOS screenshot with the weird left-attached : and all, and I don't think anybody said Apple is using that. It's probably just a mockup from a Samsung user #
Anywhere I can download the font? I don't want to replace my system font, just want to add this font to my collection so I can use it in other stuff.
Hopefully those are Apple's plans with the new release.
I just wish this release is for Yosemite, what Snow Leopard was for Leopard.
Or even better since Leopard was already a ver good OS at that time, while Yosemite is the first Mac OS upgrade I declined.
I prefer the thin font, looks more hot to me
It has bad readability and I don't use glasses.
we really all should reserve firm judgement until we actually use it for at least a couple minutes..
but I really like the notion that apple's paying so much attention to form AND function, that they've gone ahead and built a font. Reminds me of the first macs that were unique, and special, and frankly better - because of this very same thing- an interest in a detail like typography...
but I really like the notion that apple's paying so much attention to form AND function, that they've gone ahead and built a font. Reminds me of the first macs that were unique, and special, and frankly better - because of this very same thing- an interest in a detail like typography...
Is that an example of the new font? Because I'm sitting here with my phone in my hand looking back and forth... I don't see a difference.
In a first impression, San Francisco, without question.
Its more readable and beautiful.
Speaking of old Mac Days, the new SF reminds me of the old Geneva system font. It's legible, but not the prettiest.
I quite agree. Here in Ireland there is a major lack of patriotism. The EU too. We should borrow some of yours. My only frustration is when american exceptionalist can't acknowledge that the USA comes less than 20th place in major fields.
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Quite possibly! Christopher Hitchens really made me rethink my opinion on that war. We should stand up for democracy as luckier wealthier nations. But yes, execution is key, and so far we don't have the best formula for removing dictators without replacing them with something worse.
Honestly I don't see a huge difference I just hope it does not break any of my apps that depend on a certain size text since they use "system". This new font seems a bit more narrow and I can't remember for sure but I think it will use the old until it's updated for iOS 9.
It might not work all that well on a system level, especially on a mobile system that is for devices with smaller screens, where fonts might make it hard to fit certain names and information in the place that exists for it, etc.
I think they should have named it something other than after a city. One of the first things I was told when I started was to never use typefaces named after cities. Also the fact they already made a typeface called San Francisco that looked like a ransom note. If they ditched cat names for Mac OS, they could ditch city names for typefaces.
Yeah, because when I reach for my phone I expect excitement and feelings of ecstasy from the way my app icons are organized on it...
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One doesn't necessarily preclude or even affect the other.