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These stats are laughable. One read of any Apple forum will show how a lot of Apple customers won't admit they are unhappy with their purchase. They will defend it to no end. PC shoppers for the most part will have no loyalty to any brand. If they're not happy with Brand A, they'll gladly admit they made a bad purchase and move to brand B. The Apple user can't do this. You sink in that much money for a Mac PC, your gonna defend that purchase because you don't want to look like a fool. It's almost guaranteed, as an Apple customer, you had some Windows customer(family or friend) telling you that you can buy a more powerful PC for less. But of course no one was gonna stop you from buying the Apple. Now if your not satisfied with it, your definitely not gonna say so. You don't want anyone telling you, I told you so.

You should really read the thread first. This predictable attitude has been mocked before you even posted it.

You're welcome. :)
 
I can't take this survey seriously, come on they still have Packard Bell listed!!!
 
yea, overpriced hardware manufactured buy $0.80 per hour sweatshop chinese labor.

PSSTTT Guess what genius your computer was built the same way!!! At least Apple assists in their pay and strive for better working conditions.
 
From a Hardware perspective, I cant give them my complete confidence(dont get me wrong, theyre pretty damn great)...but I have to say that Apple Support (be it by email, phone, especially at a store[genius]) is the greatest of any company. Hands down.

If they started offering industry leading warranties (which shouldnt be an undue financial burden given their reliability), I'd have 0 criticisms of them.
 
One of the reasons why other manufacturers have a lower (by no means poor) rating is because they lack control over their computers, for example.

You have a Acer laptop, it BSODs. You call Acer, they tell you to goto Microsoft, Microsoft say its a Hardware fault, goto Acer, Acer say its a issue with Windows not picking up the hardware correctly, goto Microsoft.

With a Apple product, you get a issue, you contact Apple, and they know pretty much all the issues.

So perhaps this is the consequence between what Horace Dediu calls the "integrated model" (Apple) and "componentized/fragmented model" (Android / PC)... with a fragmented model, you have an artificial ceiling on customer satisfaction... an integrated model doesn't automatically make you better but removes this ceiling.

http://www.asymco.com/2010/10/28/re...s-open-vs-closed-vs-integrated-vs-fragmented/
 
Way to go Apple! This week my sister got her MacBook monitor case replaced extremely fast because of a cracking defect they have been looking out for on the White MacBooks. Hassle-free! I registered my new MacBook Pro within minutes on the phone while they answered a couple of questions for me, hassle-free again. I was even offered AppleCare for the MBP over the phone for the Education Price (they could tell I had other Apple products with AppleCare) so it was great to get offered a deep discount on the AppleCare. Within a matter of days, Apple has continued their great relationship with my family as customers. :)
 
I never takes this survey serious. Apple has some serious hard core fan, a whole lot of them who are really passionate about anything Apple and see it as a war with other companies like Google and Microsoft, and there's just no way that they're not going to give Apple the highest rating, even if in reality things might not be perfect for them.
 
Ugh. It sickens me that I didn't buy like 5,000 shares ten years ago. I'd be living on an island in the Pacific right about now.

That would mean you had about $90,000 in 2001. So if you didn't invest in Apple what did you do with it? And how did that work out?
 
These stats are laughable. One read of any Apple forum will show how a lot of Apple customers won't admit they are unhappy with their purchase. They will defend it to no end. PC shoppers for the most part will have no loyalty to any brand. If they're not happy with Brand A, they'll gladly admit they made a bad purchase and move to brand B. The Apple user can't do this. You sink in that much money for a Mac PC, your gonna defend that purchase because you don't want to look like a fool. It's almost guaranteed, as an Apple customer, you had some Windows customer(family or friend) telling you that you can buy a more powerful PC for less. But of course no one was gonna stop you from buying the Apple. Now if your not satisfied with it, your definitely not gonna say so. You don't want anyone telling you, I told you so.

I think this is untrue. I have an iPhone and a Macbook Pro. I love them both. I also bought an iPad. I have no problem admitting I hate it and wished i didn't spend half of a thousand dollars on it. Also, its not like I just use Apple products. I custom built a computer and have a Google TV. I don't think that everything Apple makes is pure gold. Instead I research all products and buy what meets my needs. I bought a Macbook Pro because it has plenty of power but is still highly portable. I bought an iPhone because there were too many bugs in Android for my liking. But I bought a Google TV because it is more open and has more potential in the near future.

Its not like every person buys Apple products just because its made by Apple. Usually it comes from the fact that their software and hardware are simple and easy to pick up.
 
Plus I don't look down on people who do not have Apple products with a smug superiority, I educate them in the error of their ways and work on them to see the light and start buying Apple products, I have converted many people I know and work with into buying Apple products and will continue to do so

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I never takes this survey serious. Apple has some serious hard core fan, a whole lot of them who are really passionate about anything Apple and see it as a war with other companies like Google and Microsoft, and there's just no way that they're not going to give Apple the highest rating, even if in reality things might not be perfect for them.
Of course you don't take surveys seriously, because they are an attempt at an objective measure, which conflicts with your own subjective attitude that has no data to support it. I mean, why take anything seriously if it doesn't coincide with one's own opinion?

Sure, all surveys are subject to different kinds of bias, but from my perspective, because I spend more on an Apple product, I expect more from it, and if I don't get what I expect, I am less satisfied with the product. So, in my case, the bias works in the opposite direction. And the fact is, these surveys all seem to agree with one another, whether it is Consumer Reports, J.D. Power or PC Magazine conducting them.
 
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Where is android ranked?
 
Apple are not only superior products that are bought by superior people they also have a superior customer service and reliability experience.

I love :apple::apple::apple:

That is very one sided and silly. You have 22 negative votes in a forum dubbed "MacRumors" That's saying something.
 
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Where is android ranked?

Android doesn't make and sell personal computers - they are not on the list.
 
Of course you don't take surveys seriously, because they are an attempt at an objective measure, which conflicts with your own subjective attitude that has no data to support it. I mean, why take anything seriously if it doesn't coincide with one's own opinion?

Sure, all surveys are subject to different kinds of bias, but from my perspective, because I spend more on an Apple product, I expect more from it, and if I don't get what I expect, I am less satisfied with the product. So, in my case, the bias works in the opposite direction. And the fact is, these surveys all seem to agree with one another, whether it is Consumer Reports, J.D. Power or PC Magazine conducting them.

It's just common sense buddy. Might be just a small percentage of fanatics, but it's enough to not take these things seriously, even if it could be true. Now you can't deny that there are people out there who will go all out for Apple no matter what.
 
Exactly.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people who took this survey rated down their PC manufacturer for software problems related to Windows, not the computer hardware itself.

I can't say it's completely unfair though, as nothing prevents them from doing like Apple and create their own OS, if they think Windows is not up to their standards and create customer dissatisfaction.

I remember HP announced they would make a special version of WebOS for computers when they announced the TouchPad. They scrapped WebOS altogether when they stopped making TouchPads though.

If you buy a car with crappy tires, even if the tires make the experience crappy, you will still rate the car poorly as well.

The reason Apple excels is because they control so much of the chain and the product and they also are able to offer a level of support that nobody else can touch. That is why when people think some other tablet maker is just going to take on Apple it is not that easy. Besides the advanced ecosystem nobody has the capability to offer the carefree and easy support apple offers. Their support is ridiculously valuable to their products.

People who don't want to buy into the apple system end up paying for it. As a participant in the whole system it is worth every penny and then some. I think Apple does not get ENOUGH credit for the way they are able to significantly support a large percentage of their customers through their Apple Stores and other means.

I took my macbook pro that died to Apple a while back. I thought I was out of Apple care, but when I took it in, they looked at it, saw it was still under warranty and told me it may be 5 days because of the back log. Next morning they called me and my mbp was ready to be picked up. I have had them do other stuff for me in the past as well.

I am very technically competent but apple is the only manufacturer of consumer computer products who has ever really gotten support right. That they can continue to leverage that level of service on their new devices which are also price competitive, well it is lights out for the competition.

If someone wants to make a tablet to compete with the iPad, it has to compete hardware wise, software wise, price wise, ecosystem wise, and support wise. That is a virtually impossible combination of things to accomplish.
 
Plus I don't look down on people who do not have Apple products with a smug superiority, I educate them in the error of their ways and work on them to see the light and start buying Apple products, I have converted many people I know and work with into buying Apple products and will continue to do so

Ahh the Jesuits of Apple products spreading the light in the name of the one and only STEVE.
 
It's just common sense buddy. Might be just a small percentage of fanatics, but it's enough to not take these things seriously, even if it could be true. Now you can't deny that there are people out there who will go all out for Apple no matter what.
In a survey of tens of thousands of consumers, such individuals, as few as they are, count no more than the ones who are not fanatics. A fanatic can't give Apple a rating of 1000 out of 10 to make up for the thousands of consumers who are not fanatics and give Apple a lower rating. The responses of everyone who replies are equally weighted. And I would submit to you that those who are dissatisfied are likely more likely to respond to a survey than those who are satisfied (at least based on my own personal experience, and judging from the general tone of these forums). If something works, you generally aren't that bothered about it, but if it doesn't, then people tend to get more emotionally involved and more motivated to do something about it.
 
I do have to say, I wonder how the results would compare if manufacturers like Dell were rated only according to their "Apple-quality" products, by which I mean the Optiplex and Latitude lines and not the Inspirons (and maybe not the Vostros....I'm not really sure where they fit).

That does not make sense. Part of customer satisifaction takes into account how much someone a person paid. With that, people who pay more for apple products have higher standards and expectations from their devices from the get go.

Implying that people who buy $300 laptops have the same expectations and requirements for satisfaction as someone who buys a $3500 macbook pro is highly unlikely.
 
Didn't you read the first sentence of your quote?

That would require him reading something other than looking at headlines for bashing.

That does not make sense. Part of customer satisifaction takes into account how much someone a person paid. With that, people who pay more for apple products have higher standards and expectations from their devices from the get go.

Implying that people who buy $300 laptops have the same expectations and requirements for satisfaction as someone who buys a $3500 macbook pro is highly unlikely.

No it does play into it.

I learned a long time ago Apple tends to get artificially rated higher than it should be. You have to factor in the fanboy factor.
Now would Apple be near the top if not still on top. Yes but it would not be so out of line compared to the others.
Also high price products like Apple tend to be forgiven more often for the faults and on top of that the higher end lines of all the major players tend to just well work better no matter who makes them.

If you pull out the low end lines from dell (less than 900) I am willing to bet the happyness level would go up. The computer would not be bog down by not having the power to do what is demanded of it.

It plays into it. Apple has both the fanboy factor and the lack of the low end factor both of which give it a boost in ratings.
 
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