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I know iWork for iCloud is in beta and all, but if Apple really wants people to use this for real work they need to learn that a multiple-hour outage in the middle of the work day is not acceptable. I don't care if they're adding "exciting" new features that are "revolutionary." When it comes to productivity apps, reliability trumps new features. They need to learn to do these roll outs without shutting the service down for an indeterminate time. I sure don't seem to recall Google ever doing this. This kind of move just screams that the whole thing is nothing more than a service used by toys, even if it is in beta.

Lesson for the future: Don't use BETA software for your work ! :rolleyes:
 
yes. i so hope we get completely new redesigned iWork suites for iOS and OS X. i think we can be sure about getting it. they also said at the wwdc keynote 'web iwork, including completely new mac apps' (if i remember correctly).

new aperture and updated apps like iPhoto, etc. would be awesome too.

can't wait for the keynote!

It makes a huge amount of sense. They've been beta testing the web version for months, the iOS version is still designed around iOS6 concepts and the OS X version hasn't seen much love either. More to the point perhaps it always seemed a bit odd that they highlighted iWorks at WWDC, that definitely felt like a heads up of something bigger than just a web version.

A single unified modern interface across all three platforms (along with functionality updates of course) could be a very compelling product, especially now it's free with new iOS devices (and what do you want to bet, Mavericks?).
 
I don't understand the motivation. Doesn't pretty much everyone who might want to use these apps already have an iOS device with them at all times? When would you actually need to use iWork/iMessage/etc. on some random PC?

When I'm chatting with my friends and type long conversations, especially at work :D Much easier to type on a real keyboard than on a 4inch screen...
 
The message says at the end: "... and enjoy great new features."

Would this mean that the iOS version of Pages will be upgraded too?

I just hope that the iOS version of iWork apps get the same functionality as their desktop counterparts. I hate it when I import a document into my iPad and it's format becomes rearranged for compatibility.
 
The share button in Safari is troublesome today. Tried it on 3 Macs, none of them working. Apple doing something? Mavericks with its new Safari modifications about to be released?
 
I don't understand why there isn't a "Photos" icon on iCloud.com that gives you your photostream as well as current public/shared albums. It seems so obvious since the content already is in iCloud, and would help a lot with copy & pasting those pesky shared album links on the desktop. Trying to get the album links from iPhone to desktop is more annoying that it should be...

although I wouldn't say no to Clipboard in iCloud on OS X + iOS either

iCloud is not Apple-quality. After signing up for a year, I figured I could save photos and be able to access them. So, I was quite perplexed when I couldn't find a photos icon at iCloud.com. It bothers me too, that if they're not offering a back-up service for music (and other file types), why can't there at least be an iTunes web-app in iCloud if I have Match?

iWork was a nice addition, I'll admit. I just don't understand why they hold off on music and photos. Maybe they're afraid people will just buy $200 US Chromebooks to access their Mac files---but u doubt that would be much of a problem.

I'm also bothered with getting 5gb just once for signing up with an iOS device. It should be 5gb for every new iOS device then.

In any event, I'm so happy with Google Drive and Flickr (the new app is great for photos, I think)
 
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The message says at the end: "... and enjoy great new features."

Would this mean that the iOS version of Pages will be upgraded too?

I just hope that the iOS version of iWork apps get the same functionality as their desktop counterparts. I hate it when I import a document into my iPad and it's format becomes rearranged for compatibility.

Yes , new iOS 7 icons were leaked the other day. Keynote is supposed to have a bunch of new templates.
 
Lesson for the future: Don't use BETA software for your work ! :rolleyes:

Exactly what I was thinking, Beta software isn't known for its reliability, and it's bound to be updated at sometime.

The point is that it's virtually useless for Apple to offer a product like that.

I really doubt that it is anything to do with it being a "beta". Just about every other Apple online service has to shut down when they make a change.
 
Yes , new iOS 7 icons were leaked the other day. Keynote is supposed to have a bunch of new templates.

I read about the new icons leak. I'm wondering about Landscape mode (I've been using a workaround for landscape), sections, custom page sizes, more shortcut keys, etc.

I have to say that as it currently is, Pages is the best word processor for a mobile device. It's more flexible on the Mac, to the point of replacing InDesign for me.
 
I know iWork for iCloud is in beta and all, but if Apple really wants people to use this for real work they need to learn that a multiple-hour outage in the middle of the work day is not acceptable. I don't care if they're adding "exciting" new features that are "revolutionary." When it comes to productivity apps, reliability trumps new features. They need to learn to do these roll outs without shutting the service down for an indeterminate time. I sure don't seem to recall Google ever doing this. This kind of move just screams that the whole thing is nothing more than a service used by toys, even if it is in beta.

You mean like they did with Wave?
Oh wait, that wasn't an hour downtime, it was complete abandonment. Sorry.
 
The point is that it's virtually useless for Apple to offer a product like that.

I really doubt that it is anything to do with it being a "beta". Just about every other Apple online service has to shut down when they make a change.

You are forgetting that this is a Web App, servers crash, and people don't expect the same reliability as they do with a desktop application (which Apple offers).

As for your other point, complain about it during those shutdowns, this one is a Beta so Apple are allowed wiggle room.
 
I don't understand the motivation. Doesn't pretty much everyone who might want to use these apps already have an iOS device with them at all times? When would you actually need to use iWork/iMessage/etc. on some random PC?

I could see a lot of people wanting to be able to use iMessage on their work PCs through the browser so they could look busy compared to typing on the phone.
 
I know iWork for iCloud is in beta and all, but if Apple really wants people to use this for real work they need to learn that a multiple-hour outage in the middle of the work day is not acceptable. I don't care if they're adding "exciting" new features that are "revolutionary." When it comes to productivity apps, reliability trumps new features. They need to learn to do these roll outs without shutting the service down for an indeterminate time. I sure don't seem to recall Google ever doing this. This kind of move just screams that the whole thing is nothing more than a service used by toys, even if it is in beta.

Very well put
 
You mean like they did with Wave?
Oh wait, that wasn't an hour downtime, it was complete abandonment. Sorry.

They discontinued a (beta) product, and left it online for well over a year after they announced it was closing.

If you want to pick fault at least pick fault with something worth it.

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It makes a huge amount of sense. They've been beta testing the web version for months, the iOS version is still designed around iOS6 concepts and the OS X version hasn't seen much love either. More to the point perhaps it always seemed a bit odd that they highlighted iWorks at WWDC, that definitely felt like a heads up of something bigger than just a web version.

A single unified modern interface across all three platforms (along with functionality updates of course) could be a very compelling product, especially now it's free with new iOS devices (and what do you want to bet, Mavericks?).

Maybe its going web-only. One product that works on every OS. Wouldn't put it past them. If they get offline execution working like Google Docs has it'd be great.
 
You mean like they did with Wave?
Oh wait, that wasn't an hour downtime, it was complete abandonment. Sorry.

They discontinued a (beta) product, and left it online for well over a year after they announced it was closing.

If you want to pick fault at least pick fault with something worth it.

Quite. I don't see why "5t3f4n" thought that was a good comparison. Do we want to list the web products Apple has abandoned?

You are forgetting that this is a Web App, servers crash, and people don't expect the same reliability as they do with a desktop application (which Apple offers).

Why shouldn't they? The whole point of these services is wide availability - other sites manage to have major overhauls with minimal downtime. When did Facebook or Google last have a planned shutdown period scheduled to last several hours during business hours in Europe and the US?

Apple seems to want the attention that their service shutdowns bring more than anything else.
 
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I don't understand the motivation. Doesn't pretty much everyone who might want to use these apps already have an iOS device with them at all times? When would you actually need to use iWork/iMessage/etc. on some random PC?

When I'm at work. I've always had a Windows (or Linux) workstation, and pulling out a phone or iPad to use iMessage is a bit of a pain if I'm actively referring to things on my workstation. I'd probably use Google Talk/Hangouts a lot less if there was a way to seemlessly go from my workstation to my phone and back again.
 
I know iWork for iCloud is in beta and all, but if Apple really wants people to use this for real work they need to learn that a multiple-hour outage in the middle of the work day is not acceptable. I don't care if they're adding "exciting" new features that are "revolutionary." When it comes to productivity apps, reliability trumps new features. They need to learn to do these roll outs without shutting the service down for an indeterminate time. I sure don't seem to recall Google ever doing this. This kind of move just screams that the whole thing is nothing more than a service used by toys, even if it is in beta.

This is true. Valid point. They should finish their "final touches" overnight.
 
Quite. I don't see why "5t3f4n" thought that was a good comparison.



Why shouldn't they? The whole point of these services is wide availability - other sites manage to have major overhauls with minimal downtime. When did Facebook or Google last have a planned shutdown period scheduled to last several hours during business hours in Europe and the US?

Apple seems to want the attention that their service shutdowns bring more than anything else.

The whole point of these services is to complement their other products. The only use for them I have, is when I'm forced to use a windows computer to print or edit documents that I've created on my Mac.
 
When I'm at work. I've always had a Windows (or Linux) workstation, and pulling out a phone or iPad to use iMessage is a bit of a pain if I'm actively referring to things on my workstation. I'd probably use Google Talk/Hangouts a lot less if there was a way to seemlessly go from my workstation to my phone and back again.

OK, I get that. Though I'd personally prefer a native Windows iMessage client to a web version.
 
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