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kherdin said:
Bah. Calculater is fine. iCalc is lame. When they use an abbreviation after the i, it sounds lame. Like iCal. iCal should be like Calendar, like Address Book isn't iAddr, or Terminal isn't iTerm or TextEdit isn't iTxt. Ugh.
iCal gets its name not from the "internet" meaning Apple uses for the "i" prefix, but from the calendar format it uses, which just happens to be called iCalendar. The use of this name emphasizes the fact that it uses a standardized format for its calendars.
 
The best graphing calculator app on the planet, Curvus Pro X, was bought up recently by an unnamed international company, and distribution of it was suspended.

My theory is that Apple wanted to replace the Graphing Calculator app that comes with classic, and bought Curvus Pro to replace it. Maybe iCalc will be the app's new name, instead of the abysmal Graphulator. I've been hoping that they'll include the app with Tiger...

See here.
 
SPG said:
It would be nice to have an Excel killer on the Mac...break the hold of MS Office already.

While I would love to see another office suite challenge the Microsoft Monopoly Machine( MS OFFICE) I think it would be disastrous for the Mac if Apple ticked MS off enough to stop them from making Office for the Mac.

It doesn't matter if Apple made a better Office suite, Several vendors have in the past. What does matter is it would hurt Apples chances as far as Corporate sales are concerned. Everyone runs MS Office and Everyone will continue to do so even way into the foreseeable future.
 
avalys said:
The best graphing calculator app on the planet, Curvus Pro X, was bought up recently by an unnamed international company, and distribution of it was suspended.

My theory is that Apple wanted to replace the Graphing Calculator app that comes with classic, and bought Curvus Pro to replace it. Maybe iCalc will be the app's new name, instead of the abysmal Graphulator. I've been hoping that they'll include the app with Tiger...

See here.
I agree, although I like "Graphulator" better than "iCalc" - it sounds too similar to another Apple application, iCal. I strongly suspect that Apple WILL include a graphing calculator application with Tiger. I also suspect that Apple will do something with the existing Calculator application. It could become a Dashboard widget; it could be modified to remove the "hidden" graphing functionality (which doesn't work for me anyway); it could even disappear altogether.
 
evilbert420 said:
So what does the "i" signify? Some sort of sharing of data?

I always thought iDVD was misnamed. iTunes makes sense, iPhoto makes sense, iMovie is starting to push it, but iDVD made no sense to me unless Apple has changed "i" to mean "integrated" rather than "internet."

And then they went and did GarageBand. :confused:

iCalc iCaulk

They just use i because its popular - it no longer means internet for most (all?) Apple products...

iMac, iBook, all programs...
 
safari should have an i infront of it, idvd shouldn't.
someone needs some consistency with these names. i wish that they had named them all things like: music, browser, textedit, mail, chat, photo, calendar, etc. it is so simple when the name of the program is exactly what it does.
if this icalc is a spead sheet then i think the name sheets would be fitting.
 
awinn233 said:
Why not just keep the Calculator name?

Because it's not a calculator, it's a speadsheet. They were probably not done with it and wanted to get iWork out the door; but iWork is really incomplete without a spreadsheet application. AppleWorks had one, why wouldn't they include one with iWork? It's obvious that iWork is a replacement of AppleWorks.

Now all they really need to do is improve the word processing capabilities of Pages, add a spreadsheet, make Mail more robust, then who needs Office?
 
My two cents

I happened to have liked Graphulator as a name for a new graphing calculator app. This iCalc is far too similar to iCal. It makes sense to me that this iCalc name could be best applied to the Calculator widget in Dashboard.

Since I am abhorring this iCalc name, I suggest Abacus.

;)
 
iBarf.

I like the iApps, especially the new iWork suite, but iDon't know, iThink this is getting ridiculous. :rolleyes:
 
cc bcc said:
Apple needs a more professional naming scheme if they want to be taken seriously.
Yeah, like adding "Pro" on the end of their app names:
Graphulator *Pro*
That would finally draw the attention of enterprise.
"Wait, I'm professional, and the program is too!"
give me a break...

And for the record, I always thought the prefix "i" had to do with personalizing the device/software. iTunes means my music, iDVD DVDs I made, from my home videos that I arranged in .... iMovie. Fits the iPod naming convention as well. "i" it's mine, I personalize this device, and "Pod" generic device nickname.

Now, if this is truly something they're doing, then they won't name the calculator iCalc, not just because it looks way too similar to iCal, but also because it isn't a personalizable device. "These are my numbers," well maybe but... just a thought. And I'm biased because I think Graphulator is a cool name...
 
bcsmith said:
They could also be trademarking this so that someone else can not. iPhone jumps to mind, but I'm sure there are plenty of other words/phrases that Apple has trademarked, but is not actively marketing.

-- Ben

Personally i think your right on. It totally makes sense that apple doesn't want ppl rippen off on their "i" theme of things. Ben, you are one smart man.
 
TheWama said:
Yeah, like adding "Pro" on the end of their app names:
Graphulator *Pro*
That would finally draw the attention of enterprise.
"Wait, I'm professional, and the program is too!"
give me a break...

And for the record, I always thought the prefix "i" had to do with personalizing the device/software. iTunes means my music, iDVD DVDs I made, from my home videos that I arranged in .... iMovie. Fits the iPod naming convention as well. "i" it's mine, I personalize this device, and "Pod" generic device nickname.

Now, if this is truly something they're doing, then they won't name the calculator iCalc, not just because it looks way too similar to iCal, but also because it isn't a personalizable device. "These are my numbers," well maybe but... just a thought. And I'm biased because I think Graphulator is a cool name...

iAgree with you 100%

iLiked Graphualtor too! :D
 
I tend to think its a "don't let anybody else use it" trademark. I don't see it as a spreadsheet. Apple is too leery of angering Microsoft by making an "excel killer." If Apple had been looking to compete with Microsoft Office on the mac, Pages would have been a full featured word processor, not a low level consumer publishing app. Apple still needs macs to have a full fledged, 100% compatible office suite-- that is, Microsoft Office for mac-- if they are every going to make inroads into business. So I dont think you'll say any office-killers, at least not for a few years.
 
Those of you who were around Macs during the Pre-X days (System 7, etc.) may remember the "Graphing Calculator" app that came with all macs. It could even do 3-d graphing. Maybe they are finally bringing the Graphing Calculator back. If they did, hopefully they'd make it a full scientific calculator, maybe even with a basic CAS* like the TI-89. That'd be pretty sweet. (Not that I would care much, since I already have Maple 9.5 and Mathematica 5.1)

*Computer Algebra System
 
If this is true, no way they leave iCal named iCal.

With "Mail" and "Address Book", my money is that they change the name to "Calendar" :)
 
Object-X said:
Because it's not a calculator, it's a speadsheet. They were probably not done with it and wanted to get iWork out the door; but iWork is really incomplete without a spreadsheet application. AppleWorks had one, why wouldn't they include one with iWork? It's obvious that iWork is a replacement of AppleWorks.

Now all they really need to do is improve the word processing capabilities of Pages, add a spreadsheet, make Mail more robust, then who needs Office?

I don't see where people are getting the idea that Apple is creating a MS Office replacement with iWork. iWork is not, and won't ever be, an Office Suite. I can't imagine that Apple will ever try to compete with Microsoft directly in that department. All the reviews have said that Pages is NOT an alternative to Word, but IS a really fantastic application for laying out publications with ease. Apple is creative. It makes complex design tasks easy - just look at iMovie, Garageband, Keynote, Pages, iDVD. Apple does not create the base products, like a simple spreadsheet application. If it adds something with this functionality to iWork, then it will be in true Apple style and be a useful tool for specific needs, not just a generic Excel-like spreadsheet application. Excel and Word are just too good and well-rounded to bother going after. Yes, Apple could probably do it better....eventually, but word and excel have been MS products for years and are constantly being improved. Just look at how patheticly maintained AppleWorks was. It was a joke that in no way compared to Office.

Geez, way too many MS compliments in this post......quick.....um....Tiger will trounce Longhorn. ahhhh, that feels better.
 
anubis said:
Those of you who were around Macs during the Pre-X days (System 7, etc.) may remember the "Graphing Calculator" app that came with all macs. It could even do 3-d graphing. Maybe they are finally bringing the Graphing Calculator back. If they did, hopefully they'd make it a full scientific calculator, maybe even with a basic CAS* like the TI-89. That'd be pretty sweet. (Not that I would care much, since I already have Maple 9.5 and Mathematica 5.1)

*Computer Algebra System

This is what I am really hoping for. Looking at the feature set for Curvus Pro X I can only assume that it will be so. I love my TI-89 but sometimes I want to look at a larger graph with an application that supports tangent lines, derivative points, intersections, tracing, etc. and I have not been able to find a good, free, program like that for the Mac yet.

Oh, and the TI-89 has a CAS that is at least better than the crap that MathCAD uses ;)
 
Curvus Pro X

I agree with avalys above, Curvus Pro X was the first thing I thought of when I read this. However, I agree that iCalc may not be the name of Apples next graphing calculator, just trying to keep others from taking the name. Hopefully they did buy Curvus Pro X and plan to release their version of it soon, Curvus pro was awesome and I would love to see an update to it.

lebnjay

The best graphing calculator app on the planet, Curvus Pro X, was bought up recently by an unnamed international company, and distribution of it was suspended.

My theory is that Apple wanted to replace the Graphing Calculator app that comes with classic, and bought Curvus Pro to replace it. Maybe iCalc will be the app's new name, instead of the abysmal Graphulator. I've been hoping that they'll include the app with Tiger...
 
A rather embarrassing error occured in the original post...it should have read:

Macrumors said:
MacOSXRumors notes that Apple has trademarked the word "iTalc" under the category of Baby Powder .

The trademark application was filed on March 28th 2005.

The rumor site speculates on a possible baby powder application, but it may also be an alternative name to the previously trademarked 'Babypowderulator'.
Sorry for any confusion.
 
As much as I'd like an Apple spreadsheet, I wouldn't like it as much as I don't like the name Graphulator, so here's hoping for no spreadsheet...
 
I hope Apple brings back Graphing Calculuator in Tiger. Personally, I like the name Graphulator. And why would a Dashboard widget be named iCalc, it looks too much like iCal and all/most of the other "i" apps are applications and not like widgets. It would cause too much confusion.
 
evilbert420 said:
So what does the "i" signify? Some sort of sharing of data?

I always thought iDVD was misnamed. iTunes makes sense, iPhoto makes sense, iMovie is starting to push it, but iDVD made no sense to me unless Apple has changed "i" to mean "integrated" rather than "internet."

And then they went and did GarageBand. :confused:

iCalc iCaulk

The "i" never meant "internet." If that was the case, would iBook mean Internet Book? iMac, Internet Mac? iPod, Internet Pod? LOL

I believe the "i" was meant to signify "me" or "mine." Now it's definitely a marketing campaign, but still holds some water.
 
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