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Apple Trademarks iCalc

Cells

BWhaler said:
I have no idea if any of these are already taken, but:
Abacus
Digits
Cells
Rainman :)
Pi
Quant
Quantum
Quantify
Numerator
Integer
Pro Forma
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I like "Cells", but (as much as I like Abacus for something), the others are way too numbery. Why should numbers have all the fun? Apple pioneered the ability to put multi-media files and other non-numerical objects into cells. If they come out with a spreadsheet app, I can't imagine them marketing it as a number cruncher.

For the poster who mentioned a much upgraded version of Claris Homepage being added to iWork - that's a great idea. It fits right in with making a non-Office-copy productivity suite.

Honestly, I'd rather see the two-dim version of FileMaker added to iWork before a spreadsheet, with the tight integration between it and Pages that CW/AW had with its database.
 
Patrik_L said:
yeah, and all my classes in structural engineering is using mathcad. So it's not only that I am forced to use a crappy program, I can't even use my mac for my schoolwork. I have to sit and do it on the schools awful dell computers...
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My school relies on MathCAD for everything up to the Partial Differential Equations class, then they use Maple. I actually want to learn math so I do everything by hand and use my calculator to check my work or do some algebra that I don't want to do. I have tried to use MathCAD but the program just plain sucks.
 
iThink iAm iTired of the iWhole iThing, y'know??!?

if apple were the only company naming it's products w/ the "i" prefix, that would be one thing, but since everybody and their iBrother (oh, wait, that's already taken) use "i" for everything, it gets kind of iPlayed out.

good to have the graphing calculator back, though! i hate math, but it makes purty pictures... :p
 
Update says it's Tiger's calculator

The original story has been updated as follows:

UPDATE: An unconfirmed report claims that iCalc is the new name of the Calculator application in Tiger, which now handles scientific calculation, Hex, Bin, Okt, and Dec calculations.
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Finally!

I can't believe it took that many posts for someone to finally get this.

Back in the day (before 1-2-3 took off) Calc contained in most spreadsheets names. How's that for a little history.

iCalc, if it ever sees the light of day and is a spreadsheet, will be included in iWorks. With tight integration with Pages and Keynote. However, with that said, it really doesn't meet the naming convention already established by those other iWork applications.

Whatever!

sorryiwasdreami said:
The "i" never meant "internet." If that was the case, would iBook mean Internet Book? iMac, Internet Mac? iPod, Internet Pod? LOL

I believe the "i" was meant to signify "me" or "mine." Now it's definitely a marketing campaign, but still holds some water.
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Have you used Pages?

rosalindavenue said:
I tend to think its a "don't let anybody else use it" trademark. I don't see it as a spreadsheet. Apple is too leery of angering Microsoft by making an "excel killer." If Apple had been looking to compete with Microsoft Office on the mac, Pages would have been a full featured word processor, not a low level consumer publishing app. Apple still needs macs to have a full fledged, 100% compatible office suite-- that is, Microsoft Office for mac-- if they are every going to make inroads into business. So I dont think you'll say any office-killers, at least not for a few years.
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Pages is much easier than Word and it's a great v1.0 application. I know diehard Word users who have switched to Pages and you see some of their documents!

MS has basically locked themselves into their office file formats (they have to be backwards compatible), so Apple can easily create their own iWork apps and MS really can't do anything, due to the slow adoptance of the latest versions of Office in the Windows world.

What would be interesting is if Apple made iWorks available to Linux.

-Whatever
 
whatever said:
Pages is much easier than Word and it's a great v1.0 application. I know diehard Word users who have switched to Pages and you see some of their documents!

MS has basically locked themselves into their office file formats (they have to be backwards compatible), so Apple can easily create their own iWork apps and MS really can't do anything, due to the slow adoptance of the latest versions of Office in the Windows world.

What would be interesting is if Apple made iWorks available to Linux.

-Whatever
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Think that idea opens up a whole new can of worms about mac software on other machines. My current view is that it wouldn't work (at least I kinda dont want it to!) Mac on Mac...100% clean and pure.
 
i really like Graphulator. it explains what it is really well, a graphing calculator. but this might confuse some people, but then again, HELLO, there is a calculator on dashboard that would be far easier to access than running a program (like calculator now, which i hate having to launch and quit it.). iCalc does sound WAY too much like iCal, and considering how much Pages has been a flop, i really hope that they don't release an excel clone, despite their history with excel.
 
Lumol said:
Maybe Apple plans to combine Mail, Address Book and iCal into a single application? And then be free to use iCalc for whatever they want -- be in a spreadsheet or a graphing calculator.

Not that I don’t think that this is a totally awful idea.
:)
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i wish they would. mail on 10.3 is horrible, extremely buggy, always forgets my passwords, spends hours of a day "Sorting Mailbox..." on my junk mail (why?), it doesnt have HTML mail creation, it is extremely befuddling to use, the junk mail filtering is atrocious, it has a hard time connecting to my email accounts (when others connect fine and very fast), the IMAP support is really bad, the search never finds what i need (come on spotlight), and it does not integrate with iCal. i think an all-in-one app would be amazing. entourage sucks too. apple mail is only slightly better than Outlook Express for windows. and dont go thinking this is flamebait, i am an avid mac user for many years. the only things that make apple mail better than OE is that its an apple product, and its not as vulnerable security-wise. otherwise its just as much of a shoddy product. here's to hoping that Tiger's Mail program will be better.

but while i do think the i in iMac was for internet originally, that lost it's meaning really quickly. like iPod, iTunes (which wasnt originally an internet product), iDVD... etc. not worth the argument.
 
Trowaman said:
I thought Graphulator was kinda cool. Oh well, so long as the graphing calulcator returns in OS X and brings its friends: Dictionary and Thesaurus . . .
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Yess... coughcoughwinkwink. I suspect an ADC member! :D

The is also a widget for both.
 
CUPERTINO START YOUR PHOTOCOPIERS!

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so... :cool:
 
I like that Apple is making consumer-level applications in the tradition of AppleWorks. But make no mistake...if Apple is truly serious about maintaining (and furthering) its prescence in corporate America, Microsoft Office is an absolute must-have. Promises of "compatability" with Word, Excel, & PowerPoint won't cut it - for better or worse, many people take comfort in that seamless compatability. While my colleagues are wowed by iLife, they always turn a skeptical eye when I send them Office documents.
 
avalys said:
The best graphing calculator app on the planet, Curvus Pro X, was bought up recently by an unnamed international company, and distribution of it was suspended.

My theory is that Apple wanted to replace the Graphing Calculator app that comes with classic, and bought Curvus Pro to replace it. Maybe iCalc will be the app's new name, instead of the abysmal Graphulator. I've been hoping that they'll include the app with Tiger...
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It's a near certainty.
 
whenpaulsparks said:
...considering how much Pages has been a flop...
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What?!?!

I think Pages is great. Certainly there are plenty of features they could add for 2.0, but the only thing I really need it to do that it doesn't do right now is word count for selections (and they might even add that in a 1.1 update, if there is one). I use it for all of my word-processing needs now--which, I suppose, aren't very significant, but I think there are plenty of people like me who need quite a bit more functionality than TextEdit can provide, but don't really need all the crap that comes with Word. And Pages, unlike Word and more reliably than TextEdit, supports all the Cocoa text-handling features, which IMHO makes fonts that support them (like my favorite, Hoefler Text) look fabulous. Automatic ligatures and cool alternate glyphs, great kerning...

However, one of my TAs (technical communication) has "suggested" that we use Word's Track Changes on group projects. I'm kinda worried about that...I don't really want (or otherwise need) to pony up the $150 (unless Amazon's having a sale) for Office. If I'm gonna buy software for school, I'd rather get Matlab.

WM
 
whenpaulsparks said:
i wish they would. mail on 10.3 is horrible, extremely buggy, always forgets my passwords, spends hours of a day "Sorting Mailbox..." on my junk mail (why?),
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I don't have any of these problems, for whatever that's worth...

it doesnt have HTML mail creation,
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This, at least, will be fixed in Tiger.

it is extremely befuddling to use, the junk mail filtering is atrocious, it has a hard time connecting to my email accounts (when others connect fine and very fast),
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Okay...

the IMAP support is really bad, the search never finds what i need (come on spotlight),
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Mail doesn't index messages from IMAP accounts if they're not also stored on disk. For some reason, it also doesn't seem to index messages that have been moved to disk because you've read them and you have "Keep copies of messages for offline viewing" set to "Only messages I've read". I haven't tried this myself, but I'm reasonably sure that you can make Mail index all your emails by changing that setting (in the Advanced tab for your IMAP account in the Accounts pane of Preferences) to one of the "All messages" options.

I don't think the search algorithms will necessarily be all that different with Spotlight. It's just that it'll be faster, better-integrated, more featureful, etc. If Mail's search just plain isn't finding something that it really should, you must have some other issue. Don't hold out false hope for Spotlight finding stuff that the current search isn't (unless they change it so that Mail indexes messages that it currently doesn't).

FWIW
WM
 
WM. said:
What?!?!

I think Pages is great. Certainly there are plenty of features they could add for 2.0, but the only thing I really need it to do that it doesn't do right now is word count for selections (and they might even add that in a 1.1 update, if there is one). I use it for all of my word-processing needs now--which, I suppose, aren't very significant, but I think there are plenty of people like me who need quite a bit more functionality than TextEdit can provide, but don't really need all the crap that comes with Word. And Pages, unlike Word and more reliably than TextEdit, supports all the Cocoa text-handling features, which IMHO makes fonts that support them (like my favorite, Hoefler Text) look fabulous. Automatic ligatures and cool alternate glyphs, great kerning...

However, one of my TAs (technical communication) has "suggested" that we use Word's Track Changes on group projects. I'm kinda worried about that...I don't really want (or otherwise need) to pony up the $150 (unless Amazon's having a sale) for Office. If I'm gonna buy software for school, I'd rather get Matlab.

WM
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I think the truth is somewhere in between. Pages certainly is not a "flop," it is a great rethinking of the stale ol' word processor. But it is a v1 product which needs quite a few core pieces of functionality to be usable.

I like the promise of Pages, but do not use it since it is missing too many key features. With that said, I hope that Apple is pouring money and resources into it so iWork 06 allows me to dump word forever.
 
my two cents:

this dillema is quite odd.
graphulator- close but no cigar, apple (actually quite far)

icalc- i'm having a tough time invisioning this as a name for a spreadsheet app. 1) doesn't follow iwork trend and 2) why would a spreadsheet app be named icalc????
 
BWhaler said:
I think the truth is somewhere in between. Pages certainly is not a "flop," it is a great rethinking of the stale ol' word processor. But it is a v1 product which needs quite a few core pieces of functionality to be usable.

I like the promise of Pages, but do not use it since it is missing too many key features. With that said, I hope that Apple is pouring money and resources into it so iWork 06 allows me to dump word forever.
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I agree. My biggest complaint about apple's whole word processing platform is the quite pathetic spell-check/lack of grammar-check. For designing reports and such, I found that Pages is much more useful than word because I can use the iLife features, and i think that Keynote is way cooler than powerpoint anyway.
 
d.perel said:
I agree. My biggest complaint about apple's whole word processing platform is the quite pathetic spell-check/lack of grammar-check. For designing reports and such, I found that Pages is much more useful than word because I can use the iLife features, and i think that Keynote is way cooler than powerpoint anyway.
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I agree with your first point - the main appeal of Word to me is its excellent spell and grammar check, and the auto-correct features. Track changes is something I use, too.

Personally, I think a word processor should be just that, and not try to be a half-baked page layout program.
 
Philsy said:
Personally, I think a word processor should be just that, and not try to be a half-baked page layout program.
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My dream word processor would let me create, edit and organise paragraphs as plain old text, and would then do all the page layout for me at print time. Like a cross between iTunes and Tex.
 
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