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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year
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AMD would have been the absolute worst choice of the three.
Only because the iPad Pro can't do as much as my MBP. Anything with Netflix is going to benchmark awesomely LoL.
You sound like someone who has never used Windows for ARM. Virtually nobody has any need or desire to run a Windows ARM VM. That's not why people care about virtualization at all. People want virtual Windows machines so they can run the Windows applications they care about. And basically none of those apps exist for Windows ARM.
That was with Rosetta. It'll be better native. Microsoft's x86 emulation on ARM isn't even close to this.
Well, and there was similar question regarding running Linux for ARM natively. My bet is, Linux - NEVER, while Windows - POSSIBLY. Why: T2 security chip in recent Macs already disallows anything but macOS and Windows. Apple had clear chance to totally destroy Boot Camp by not allowing T2-equipped Macs to load Windows, and for the reason. Yet they chose to let it load.
Nice. It's probably also a bet how fast the developer switches to Apple-only.
My MBP is from 2013 and the new 16'' with the 5600M is the perfect machine for my needs. Now I'm not sure whether to wait for the first Apples or take the last Intels...
Anyone who wants/needs native Windows 10 via boot camp might want to stick with Intel for now. I will be holding on to my 2018 MacBook Pro 15”, it’s awesome with my eGPU for playing some games in Windows 10.
Apple has a ton of experience with ARM, probably more than any other company in the world, so I don't think it's true that ARM Macs will be in any way flakey or problematic. It's possible, but I think the transition will be smoother than you think.
Yes. People here are forgetting that the A13 in an iPhone outperforms a Mac Pro from 2012.
Imagine what they can do without dealing with the constraints imposed by the need to put those CPUs inside of a phone.
And here you have it...Apple has officially ended their 'personal computer' line.
The other times Apple had a platform switch it was to address glaring shortcomings or avoid dead-end architectures. That is not the case here.
And do they really expect us to believe they can design a SoC that competes with a discrete CPU/GPU combo? They want me to believe that the A12Z GPU can outrun the 5600M?
Apple currently gets a performance bump per cycle because they don't have to go off-chip for GPU tasks. When they do (and they will have to), expect their performance to line up with everyone elses. Except now, I am locked in to macOS.
I just repurposed my 2011 13" MBP as a Unbuntu file server. Can't do cool stuff like that anymore with the Apple Silicon.
Anyone else remember using apps under Rosetta? The whole 'launch it multiple times until it works'? I really thought we were done with that crap.
The other times Apple had a platform switch it was to address glaring shortcomings or avoid dead-end architectures. That is not the case here.
And do they really expect us to believe they can design a SoC that competes with a discrete CPU/GPU combo? They want me to believe that the A12Z GPU can outrun the 5600M?
Apple currently gets a performance bump per cycle because they don't have to go off-chip for GPU tasks. When they do (and they will have to), expect their performance to line up with everyone elses. Except now, I am locked in to macOS.
I just repurposed my 2011 13" MBP as a Unbuntu file server. Can't do cool stuff like that anymore with the Apple Silicon.
Anyone else remember using apps under Rosetta? The whole 'launch it multiple times until it works'? I really thought we were done with that crap.
Same as the intel development kits, though they gave people replacement machines or let them buy them cheap - can't recall.
x86 has much wider support in terms of software and platform. If I want to use an iOS device, I got an iPad Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max for that.
Also with this announcement, the MacBook Pro will be dead in 5-10 years as the iPad Pro has replaced it (as they can run the same apps basically).
No, he didn't say Apple would stop supporting Intel Macs after two years. He said all new Mac models will have switched to Apple silicon by the end of two years. Software support (OS upgrades, etc.) of those Intel Macs will continue for "many years to come."
I don't think with Adobe we will have to worry about ARM. They will be available quickly. My concern is rather the other way around, when will the Intel-Macs or the software be supported only half-heartedly?
Apple appears unprepared for this. Two years to transition is one year too long. No ARM-based Macs until the end of the year. There was no information about I/O ports or actual performance. The demos were weak and short.
I remember the last transition (to Intel). There was a lot more information provided at WWDC at that time. I have no confidence in this transition. I will watch from the Windows in my new home. Best wishes to y'all.
I remember the last transition (to Intel). There was a lot more information provided at WWDC at that time. I have no confidence in this transition. I will watch from the Windows in my new home. Best wishes to y'all.
Apple today confirmed its widely rumored plan to switch to custom processors for its Macs, promising "incredible" performance and features.
Building on its industry-leading A-series chips for iPhones and iPads, Apple wants Macs with its custom silicon to have the highest performance with lower power usage. Apple says the vast majority of Mac apps can be quickly updated to be "universal" with support for both Intel-based Macs and those with Apple's custom silicon.
Starting today, developers will be able to apply for a Mac mini with an A12Z chip inside to help prepare their apps for Apple's custom silicon. The special Mac mini will be running the macOS Big Sur beta and the latest version of Xcode.
Apple said that it expects its first Mac with custom silicon to launch by the end of 2020, and it expects to transition its entire lineup within the next two years.
Article Link: Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Within the Next Two Years
Me too.. I assume the hypervisor is ARM based, and so you can only run ARM-based Linux distros.. Which is why they didn't mention Windows running as VMs.
Lots of folks. I just bought a new refurb 16” MBP specifically because it will be one of the last Intel macs available and I like running boot camp on it.
Yes. Because they can. CPUs are a LOT harder to design than GPUs, and their CPUs are the best.
Either they pulled the official arm64 .iso for the demonstration, or precompiled their own special version to run on their chips.
That was Debian 10 running the GNOME 3 desktop environment.
My question is, what did macOS 11 remove this time? They killed telnet and ftp in High Sierra, removed all OpenGL libraries in Mojave, and erased Dashboard, iTunes, and 32-bit support in Catalina. What's next? Does it even still have Console, or Terminal?
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