Yikes! I started out on 68K Macs and am kinda feed up with transitions. Also, as I'm a cross platform developer, I rather strongly dislike loosing hardware compatibility to anything relevant.
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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year
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Some (notably cross platform) apps are likely to take a while to transition. An Intel Mac released in 2020 is likely to still get software updates for 4 years, if not the full ~7 they’ve averaged lately.
if you make money with your computer and need a new one, you’re likely to replace it again before intel support is completely dropped in macOS.
given the huge unknowns there’s probably an increase in demand from some users wanting to get a known platform secured for the next few years.
I keep wondering how people get the idea that "Apple announcing first Arm Macs this year" means "so my 2019 Macbook Pro just became obsolete". Maybe they should have repeated "new versions of macOS will continue to support Intel Macs for years to come" a few more times.
Now give me *insert a list of unrealistic expectations* for *unrealistic price*!!!!
Now give me *insert a list of unrealistic expectations* for *unrealistic price*!!!!
Will I be able to use Xquartz and Comand Line tools via Terminal?
I think I have to switch to Windows, ****!
I think I have to switch to Windows, ****!
No more Bootcamp/ Windows, though? Only virtualization?
That's correct. You heard Tim mention Linux etc but never Windows. Not more native Windows support.
That's correct. You heard Tim mention Linux etc but never Windows. Not more native Windows support.
Not even close. No way they ever go back to X86 ever again. This is a really dumb take, sorry.
I am old enough to remember the PPC > Intel transition. They backed that up because PPC was garbage in terms of performance compared to Intel. They're going to have to give us all some serious benchmarks to prove the performance is there. Especially graphics.
How is your Mac obsolete? It still does everything it did 4 hours before you posted?
How is it an "enlarged ipad" when it is running macOS and apps not available on the iPad like Maya (if that isn't "pro" enough for you, what is?)
Enough with the doom and gloom already. If you are on the bleeding edge of performance, you aren't keeping your computer for the 5-6 years it would take to actually end the life of the Mac you bought this morning. If you are a pro, you don't care about the silicon, only what it can do for you. Do you really care about Intel, AMD, PowerPC, or A12Z if it delivers your product to your clients faster than the last one with fewer bugs? If so, why?
I would have liked to see more specific benchmarks, and I suspect we did not because they were not impressive enough.
A12Z might be a placeholder for A14Z, for the really "wow" numbers.
How is it an "enlarged ipad" when it is running macOS and apps not available on the iPad like Maya (if that isn't "pro" enough for you, what is?)
Enough with the doom and gloom already. If you are on the bleeding edge of performance, you aren't keeping your computer for the 5-6 years it would take to actually end the life of the Mac you bought this morning. If you are a pro, you don't care about the silicon, only what it can do for you. Do you really care about Intel, AMD, PowerPC, or A12Z if it delivers your product to your clients faster than the last one with fewer bugs? If so, why?
I would have liked to see more specific benchmarks, and I suspect we did not because they were not impressive enough.
A12Z might be a placeholder for A14Z, for the really "wow" numbers.
I don’t know man, I’m kind of optimistic about this. It might mean something of a renaissance for the mac after being neglected for almost a decade in favour of the i-devices.
So gaming on Bootcamp with Windows will be over?
He doesn't want to Osborne the entire existing range. Hence his comments about Intel Macs for many years to come.
So Catalyst apps become obsolete long term.
Welcome back to the world of mess: catalyst apps, fat binaries, new and old architecture apps....
Here we go again....
Welcome back to the world of mess: catalyst apps, fat binaries, new and old architecture apps....
Here we go again....
Bonus. Finally new apps for the Mac (IOS and new native ARM based). The OSX Mac Store has grown pretty stale recently....
Dont worry, it won't be their last mac. People love coming out with their hot takes after major platform announcements.
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An iPad on MBP batteries would easily last 18–24 hours.
Let's just hope they tune the right balance of power / efficiency.
Intel has failed as they remain on 14nm. Apple's move was inevitable and is welcomed!
Custom chips for the Mac will obliterate Intel.
Let's just hope they tune the right balance of power / efficiency.
Intel has failed as they remain on 14nm. Apple's move was inevitable and is welcomed!
Custom chips for the Mac will obliterate Intel.
By my understanding, they were using the same A12z chip, not a maxed out mac pro.
Believe me, I have more questions after watching that one as well. I would imagine when the first consumer and commercial ARM Macs get announced, we should know more. The fact they have kits available starting today is pretty good sign, plus all those iOS apps will now just work...?
Again, I have more questions as well, so I'm sure the blanks will get filled in as we go through this transition. I'm still comfortable with my late 2018 Mac mini for now and my early 2015 MBP.
I mean technically windows on arm is a thing, but it sounds like office will be native on macOS on arm before it’s native on windows on arm, which says a lot about Microsoft’s commitment to windows on arm just <checks notes> ten years after they first started down that path.
It should be interesting to see what the first Apple Silicon Macs are that roll out, and when. They're taking a couple of years for the transition so it'll probably just be consumer level stuff at first. I can't imagine we'll see any this year beyond the Dev Mac mini.
So that the stock and Apple users are NOT put through a 2yr shock! Also, and more significantly not to hurt their partnership with Intel.