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Not just for letting Roku beat them to it, but because of the big **** up that he allowed to happen today. Moron let Samsung beat them to the market with a SmartWatch.

He's got to go for his incompetence. He is killing Apple!

You have no clue what you're talking about.

Samsung beat them to the market with a smartwatch?

***** IT, the first usable model of the Galaxy Gear will be the one released AFTER the iWatch!

Apple was beat to the market on MP3-players by Rio and iirc also Creative, they've been beaten to the market on tablets by Microsoft and HP and on smartphones by Nokia, HTC and RIM.

Rio is dead and Creative is worth less than what Apple is earning in revenue per day.

Microsoft just fired their CEO for ******** up their mobile strategy and HP failed even with their SECOND generation of tablets, the TouchPad.

Nokia and HTC both have become only shadows and RIM - now Blackberry - is circling the drain.


It doesn't matter who does it first, what matters is who does it BEST!

EDIT: I just realized that i forgot Palm when mentioning the companies who sold smartphones before Apple entered the market.
I guess that i simply forgot them already states the point i would have made about them.
 
Right now I have an AppleTV for the living room and a Roku 3 for the bedroom since we can watch and AmazonPrime videos so we're not limited to just what we've bought in iTunes (and digital copies through iTunes) and HuluPlus.

The main thing missing that I need on the AppleTV is Amazon Prime...then I'll ditch the Roku 3 since I would LOVE watching/listening to my iTunes purchases and AirPlay. I could care less about TV as I can watch live TV on the FiOS app on my iPad.
 
Maybe this is what Steve's big idea was. Everyone could access only and exactly what they want to see, pay for only those channels, and get them streamed directly. Add to that some PVR or on-demand scheduling/streaming, and you've got the perfect way to watch whatever you want, whenever you want.

I think Steve's big idea goes a bit further. Because this is still a tad cluttered.

I think his big idea is getting everything into the iTunes Store, right away and even perhaps global. Hopefully also with digital versions having the same features as physical.

Doing this would give you one interface not a few dozen. And would hopefully include same time streaming of items. Perhaps even a streaming only option. They might even work out a system of bundling that streaming like they do sets of movies. Imagine say that you love CBS and you watch Hawaii five 0, elementary, CSI. They might be up for streaming only viewing for the season at like $5/month a piece or $10/month on a bundle. You can only watch the current season though. You want the old ones you have to buy them. But the streaming is same time as OTA. And if you buy the season pass you can chose for say $2-3 more to add that streaming. Letting you watch it same as OTA or download it starting the next day at noon. And perhaps say a week/month later our overseas friends can download etc

Something like this plus better quality, parity and pricing could put a dent in torrents even
 
If $99 burns your wallet when they charge over $1000 for computers you can get $400 elsewhere, then WOW you have your priorities messed up

Where can I find a $1,000 Mac for $400?

Its not about the content deal that has me pissed off the most

Its the SmartWatch **** up.

What, exactly, do you expect him (or anyone else) to do? Somehow stop Samsung from launching a watch? Samsung chose a date to precede Apple's planned event (notice this was announced after the Sept. 10th date was rumored/leaked?). Is Cook supposed to hold an "emergency product launch" or something?

The usual morons said the same thing when HP and MS showed off their "slates" at CES shortly before Apple launched the iPad. I think you'll notice that this didn't turn out to be an issue for Apple.

No one, aside from a few Samsung fanboys and Apple-haters, are going to care that Samsung will launch a watch before Apple. Sony already has a watch out there, as do others.

What people will care about is which watch is better, and critically, which watch works with their phone. iPhone users won't be buying a Samsung watch, and Samsung owners won't be buying an Apple watch.

So, there will be a week where a handful of people might buy an S4 instead of an iPhone 5 because of Samsung's extra week? Big deal. :rolleyes:

And yes, I should have saved it for the thread which shall come later
Please, don't waste our time with such rubbish.
 
That is true I guess. We can navigate and watch the show on our own time.

If a cable provider would allow us to pick and choose single networks and build our own package. I'd be more willing to get cable but as long as they continue to shovel 100 channels for every 1 I want then I won't touch it.

will never happen
TV is like insurance. lots of people pay and you only use a little at a time.
 
Apple is only offering curated apps because they're carefully setting the tone for how apps should behave on AppleTV, building the foundation for how networks can offer their content on AppleTV and setting the stage for competition to flourish once they introduce a TV app store. Curated apps also happened on iPhone with the YouTube app and Weather offered by Yahoo. There's no doubt now that we're seeing Steve's vision for television starting to come together.

Eddy Cue is busy working on deals and we're beginning to see the floodgates opening. The rate at which these apps are being added is increasing from a new app every couple of years, to now months and probably soon to weeks -- before Apple opens it up to an app store, probably introduced early next year ahead of a big reveal in Summer 2014.

I anticipate that this is all building up to a new AppleTV box and a a TV in the form of the new Thunderbolt Display in sizes up to 60" and an iMac both with AppleTV built in.
 
I don't see AP headed to ATV anytime soon, but I totally agree (our two main TVs at least have a native AP, though I'm sure I'd much prefer the ATV experience).



Amazon prime is a direct competitor to the iTunes store. Very unlikely, especially after the iBook rulings.
 
I'm starting to see an urgent need to redesign the ATV UI. It's going to start getting very clumsy to get to stuff.
 
It's a fact

No it isn't. Because it's not a fact until Apple says it. Until then it is rumor or even an inference.

What is a fact is that Apple has, via Tim Cook, expressed that wearables are an interesting area.
It is a fact that they have done some research in this area and established some patents

It is not a fact they are currently working in such a wearable to take to market or even that they are continuing their research. They may have decided that this was an issue best left to third party folks for the moment, perhaps period. They can get their cut of the profit via those patents. Wouldn't be the first time.
 
Apple has got to be working on opening up the AppleTV to user-installable apps.

Then again, if they really were, they would have held onto these apps and announced them at the next media event.

I am sure there will eventually be an API. At least I am sure that's what these companies are using to create these "apps". It's probably just not ready for public consumption.
 
Apple tell Charter Communications to activate HBO Go for Apple TV already.

They can't. Any more than Time Warner. Apple doesn't have the power in this game. The cable companies do. They have contractual deals affording them exclusive rights to broadcast in their areas. Until Apple can get the content providers to change the terms of their deals to allow direct access. It's a no go

Apple also finds themselves in a tough spot because they can't just go and try to get themselves defined as a cable company because of the government approved oligopoly that is the cable companies. In many areas only one company is allowed to operate via cable and the cable companies could try to argue that that includes their cable based Internet feeds and shut Apple out that way. So first they would need to get some kind of legal judgment splitting the two feeds up and barring the cable companies from blocking or throttling based on type of data or source. And they can't get that until a company does that kind of blocking and why bother until the first issue of the content contracts is solved.

All of which I think is what the rumored talks are about. Both for these apps, the iTunes stores etc
 
Not Bad still need UV and Amazon

Not too bad, they still need to have an UV service like Vudu and Amazon Prime. After that it'd be great to see more Network only apps like the Fox TV one, CBS, SyFy (although there's never anything on there), etc.
 
How long

Will we have to wait for apps on Apple TV for even just TV channels? Why is Roku so much further ahead of apple on this? I want one, I just cannot justify until they allow some channels I can get other ways and some apps so that I can play all my iPhoto videos on the TV.
 
No it isn't. Because it's not a fact until Apple says it. Until then it is rumor or even an inference.

What is a fact is that Apple has, via Tim Cook, expressed that wearables are an interesting area.
It is a fact that they have done some research in this area and established some patents

It is not a fact they are currently working in such a wearable to take to market or even that they are continuing their research. They may have decided that this was an issue best left to third party folks for the moment, perhaps period. They can get their cut of the profit via those patents. Wouldn't be the first time.

So doing research and patents is not to be working on it. Ok then...
 
Is Miley on Vevo or Disney?

YouTube :D

This is great. Now if we can simply eliminate the cable subscription requirement, as with HBO. I'm really ready to dump Time-Warner if they can figure that one out..

I don't need or watch 200 channels! If I could pick out 10, I'd be good with that. Why must I pay for and subsidize channels I have no intention of ever watching?

Partially because the channels you don't watch subsidize you. It's part of a package deal. ESPN would be expensive a la cart because it they could get away with charging a lot. The Food network would be expensive because it would have very few subscribers. /Just had this same conversation with a co-worker yesterday.

There seriously should not be this much rage over a TV content deal.

Damn, I have to agree with a Dawg. ;) Go Jackets!
 
YAWN: I want a partial refund

Seriously Apple need to do some work on getting material for non-US customers. Here in the UK we pay considerably more for the ATV but do not get access to the services available in the US. I know that the contracts will be territory based, but really they need to put some effort into offerings and agreements here in the UK, or they need to seriously consider selling the ATV at half the price as it is now nobbled in comparison to the US box!
 
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