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Disney plus have marvel and Star Wars, Apple TV got that morning show and Some future blind dudes running around

Exactly. I finished Apple TV+ in the first week but I have barely touched the Disney + service. They need to get some new content out ASAP or there is really little point in keeping the mouse.
 
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“They passed a law. Oh, it started very small. In 1999 it was a grain of sand. They began by controlling books of cartoons and then detective books and, of course, films, one way or another, one group or another, political bias, religious prejudice, union pressures; there was always a minority afraid of something, and a great majority afraid of the dark, afraid of the future, afraid of the past, afraid of the present, afraid of themselves and shadows of themselves.”

”...and with a screw tightened here, a bolt fastened there, a push, a pull, a yank, art and literature were soon like a great twine of taffy strung about, being twisted in braids and tied in knots and thrown in all directions, until there was no more resiliency and no more savor to it. Then the film cameras chopped short and the theaters turned dark, and the print presses trickled down from a great Niagara of reading matter to a mere innocuous dripping of ‘pure’ material.”

This was written MANY years ago. Prescient. Theres a lot that there applies to many opinions, but IMO Apple’s biases are seeping into their efforts in overt ways causing those twisted braids (in many areas not just content). Social justice force fed into stories will never approach good old, well written entertainment. Mando at 1/2 hour paid compared to free TV +? No contest.
 
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What isn’t available on the current AppleTV box that you’re waiting for, that other competitors have on theirs? It supports 4K content in all HDR formats, IIRC. What are you missing?

Homekit support. I have a switch in my recliner that turns off the ceiling lights, turns on the bias lights, closes the blinds, and changes my status to do not disturb... but I still have to reach for the remote to turn the Apple TV (and therefore the TV itself) on.
 
Disney has been an entertainment company for nearly a 80 years. They know how to make the whole package. And having Star Wars and the Mandolorian was some really good business decisions. Couple that with Disney being able to tie their streaming service with their other media and theme parks and you have a winner.
 
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Disney has been an entertainment company for nearly a 80 years. They know how to make the whole package. And having Star Wars and the Mandolorian was some really good business decisions. Couple that with Disney being able to tie their streaming service with their other media and theme parks and you have a winner.
Good on Disney. It takes a lot of foresight to recognize that combining something with an already massive, active, cross-generational fan-base with a heavy, mutli-targeted marketing campaign and a single point of sale will generate revenue. We don't let car manufactures sell their own cars, and we discourage studios from owning theaters, but this is totally different. Nothing bad can come from Standard Mouse Co. Inc..
 
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Aside from the fact that Disney+ has such a backlog of titles and top tier franchises... I just appreciate how everything is family friendly. I'm so sick of all the TV-MA content that is getting produced. So many good show concepts out there from other platforms that go too deep into the smut because they think they need all that garbage to make it an appealing show/movie.
Ned Flanders, is that you?
 
I have an older Apple TV, the one just prior to the one that includes the fancy new remote and it's abandoned. I can't sync it proper with my iMac anymore nor can I access certain streaming services on it.

The Apple TV was always a side hobby to Apple but if they are going to be in the streaming business now they need to put this thing back on their radar big time.
Irrelevant at, “fancy new remote”. :rolleyes:
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This.

Regards, splifingate
How many are paying for Apple TV+ ? I’m not.
Disney is getting something from Verizon. They’re not giving it away.
 
Unfair comparison.

The 28.6 million Disney+ subscriber number isn't just for North America. The number includes subscribers in the U.S., Canada, Netherlands, Australia, etc. whereas the 67.66 million (not 61 million) Netflix subscribers is just for U.S. and Canada.


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Didn't scroll down far enough. Now I see the 61.04 million U.S. subscriber number.

It should also be pointed out that "about 20%" of the subscribers are getting free 1 years subs courtesy of Verizon. Is anyone giving away a free subscription to Netflix? If not, then the Disney+ number is 28.6 million - 5.7 million (20%) = 22.9 million.
Oh, they’re paying for it...because Verizon is pay for it.
Nothing is free. Just included with what you pay...for now.
 
My wife and I happily pay for Disney+ and it works on all our devices. We got multiple “free” trials of Apple TV+ and we haven’t used it even once, and we STILL feel like we want some kind of refund, just for the principle of it not being supported on LG WebOS *and* they haven’t updated the Apple TV hardware in ages.

Reading this post was free and still I feel like I deserve some compensation.
 
And this is the problem atm. Apple doesn't have that water cooler show yet. The programming so far has been extremely odd in my view. They needed to hit broader strokes. I think the Video Game show, which is basically Silicon Valley, could be interesting. But why didn't they go after one of the big fantasy or sci-fi book series? That or go after an 80s franchise that is ripe for a reinvention like Amazon did with Karate Kid. There is no fluffy, fun, feel good show on Apple.
I would very much like to see Apple TV pick up firefly, hell any of them to pick up firefly
 
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I get both free (thanks Apple and Verizon!). Ignoring legacy content, both are clearly in need of content - hence drip-feeding their episodes on a weekly cadence. I loved The Morning Show and The Mandalorian so far, nothing else has super grabbed me from either.
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See I stuck with Servant but found it frustrating. I dipped out of See maybe five minutes in.

Episode 3 has one of the best fight scenes in anything, ever.

No BS. The concept of fighting blind and what he does in that scene is awesome.
 
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Just like Apple TV box, the TV+ contents will always be a side hobby for Apple.
Only difference is, making TV+ costs Apple hundreds of millions of $.

But you know what they say, hobbies can be expensive. ;)
 
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I started typing a list of all the disney+ content my family and I have watched, and was going to compare it to the list of appleTV+ content we have watched. The Disney list grew too long, and I grew too tired, but here is the appleTV+ list:
4 episodes of Snoopy
7 episodes of Ghostwriter (which we have enjoyed)

(we have netflix, and prime (regular))

And as an aside for those complaining about AppleTV as a platform - we love the AppleTV and as a family play jackbox games, and Sketch party.
 
Truth be told, Disney+ is garbage. I'll be canceling ASAP. I need some meet and potatoes versus cartoons and super heroes..... The subscribers will drop hard after 2 years.
 
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I don’t really have anything for Disney after they deleted all my Disney points! They say they deleted by accident but wouldn’t replace them without proof I had them? I was few hundred away from getting the Burbank tour trip.. You can just use Windscribe and pull some Disney content from Netflix international. Netflix even shows the Titian’s part of the DCUniverse streaming service and Big Bang Theory part of the CBSallaccess streaming service. A yearly Windscribe subscription is just over $4 bucks a month..a whole lot better than $7-16 per service.
 
We'll see how this plays out. Both platforms suffer from very limited content, so subscribers may grow weary of shelling out the money.
 
Disney+ has great catalog to be sure.

But to sustain its growth, it needs more originals (not docuseries) and quick.

Beyond Clone Wars due in 2-3 weeks, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier due in August is the next big original. And from then on, we start to get better cadence of new originals. But 5 months of no major originals is a pretty big gap.
Isn't nearly everything on there original, which is why people buy it? The website itself is definitely worse than Netflix, but it doesn't really matter.
 
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Content is king, and Disney+ has been worth every penny of the year I paid for already.

Keep in mind, it does not replace Netflix, but with those 2 together, plus all the free apps in the FireStick 4K (RedBull TV keeps me entertained for hours), I have everything I need.

Star Wars, Pixar, Marvel...Disney Plus has the top 3 of my favorite franchises OF ALL TIME. The fact that I get National Geographic thrown in is a bonus (I love nature shows). When you add all of the Netflix content, including truly fantastic first-party shows and back-catalogue series, I have WAY more content than time to watch it.

I actually have Hulu and Prime as well, but will cancel those two when my paid month is up due to lack of time to watch what they got.

If WB ever did a service similar to Disney+ (and roped in all the DC stuff, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Matrix, their HUGE back catalog, etc in there), that would be IT for me. I'd need NOTHING else aside from the other 2 services I already have and AIN'T giving up.

I could imagine first-party shows set in Middle Earth, the Potter-verse, or inside the Matrix with ease. Combine that with all the classic Looney Tunes, Merrie Melodies cartoons, Cartoon Network and Adult Swim shows, and I'd almost, ALMOST would pay whatever they wanted.

WB, you listening??

I'm seriously not interested in a SINGLE AppleTV+ show. Not one. So this service isn't even on my radar.
 
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Aside from the fact that Disney+ has such a backlog of titles and top tier franchises... I just appreciate how everything is family friendly. I'm so sick of all the TV-MA content that is getting produced. So many good show concepts out there from other platforms that go too deep into the smut because they think they need all that garbage to make it an appealing show/movie.
Yeah, Disney makes the most consistently good content I think. The MA stuff is a total copout in most cases, and I can only think of Rick and Morty seasons 1-2 and early 2000s South Park doing it well. Still, the Marvel stuff is bland.
 
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“They passed a law. Oh, it started very small. In 1999 it was a grain of sand. They began by controlling books of cartoons and then detective books and, of course, films, one way or another, one group or another, political bias, religious prejudice, union pressures; there was always a minority afraid of something, and a great majority afraid of the dark, afraid of the future, afraid of the past, afraid of the present, afraid of themselves and shadows of themselves.”

”...and with a screw tightened here, a bolt fastened there, a push, a pull, a yank, art and literature were soon like a great twine of taffy strung about, being twisted in braids and tied in knots and thrown in all directions, until there was no more resiliency and no more savor to it. Then the film cameras chopped short and the theaters turned dark, and the print presses trickled down from a great Niagara of reading matter to a mere innocuous dripping of ‘pure’ material.”

This was written MANY years ago. Prescient. Theres a lot that there applies to many opinions, but IMO Apple’s biases are seeping into their efforts in overt ways causing those twisted braids (in many areas not just content). Social justice force fed into stories will never approach good old, well written entertainment. Mando at 1/2 hour paid compared to free TV +? No contest.

Hmm, I feel that labeling something you can opt-out of as "force fed" is a stretch at best.

Combine that with the voicing of an objection to social justice and this smacks of otherism, something which I personally despise almost as much as the Jedi. What is bad for some of us, is bad for ALL of us.

Interestingly, I feel social justice is AT THE CORNERSTONE of MOST art, and DEFINITELY cinematic/televised art. It challenges conventions. Stan Lee did it somewhat subtly with the X-Men, and many of the Best Picture Academy Award winning films did it as well. This is NOT EVEN CLOSE to new. Apple is actually quite LATE to the game.

But perhaps you really intended to express that you don't like the social justice causes that Apple is "force-feeding" it's audience, which is completely your prerogative and another matter entirely.
 
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