Apple TV Generation 6 in 2020

cmaier

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There are already references to it in the latest tvOS beta, so yes, we know there is a new Apple TV coming shortly.
 

BODYBUILDERPAUL

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Yes and it's exciting!
HDMI 2.1 for that flawless switching of frame rates & SDR, HDR and Dolby Vision, WiFi 6 and 120 fps playback / Ui possibilities :)

120 fps will become very interesting. Gemini Man is filmed in 120 fs and shown at selected cinemas in its full glory.
Now imagine if this film was available in iTunes Extras at the 120 fps rate.

Exciting times. AND I must congratulate Apple with their Apple TV+ service offering both 4K Dolby Vision AND Dolby Atmos for their titles. What a great starting point!
 

T'hain Esh Kelch

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Well, it has been a sufficient amount of time since the last release, that I am waiting for a new release before buying one to match my new 4k TV. So a 2020 version would be excellent.

HDMI2.1 is more than worth waiting for if your TV supports it IMHO.
 
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cynics

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We need to put our business hats on. Apple will need to offer a function or feature they can market. Without that its dead in the water. The marketing has to apply to the average user (not just us geeks) that effectively separates the device from what's currently available (or owned).

HDMI 2.1 is awesome however with no content or limited functionality its unlikely they will be able to recoup from the development cost associated with manufacturing vs just continuing to manufacturer the current AppleTV 4k. If they can't convey to the masses why they NEED HDMI 2.1 it would be just like them selling a new AppleTV 4K only difference being a new case color. Some people would buy it but not many because people won't see the value in that.

Time really isn't that relevant with Apple. We've seen Apple update product lines in under 6 months for very valid technical reasons and we've seen them not update products for 4+ years due to technical limitations. Overall the longer they can sell the AppleTV 4k the better it is for them.
 

BODYBUILDERPAUL

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We need to put our business hats on. Apple will need to offer a function or feature they can market. Without that its dead in the water. The marketing has to apply to the average user (not just us geeks) that effectively separates the device from what's currently available (or owned).

HDMI 2.1 is awesome however with no content or limited functionality its unlikely they will be able to recoup from the development cost associated with manufacturing vs just continuing to manufacturer the current AppleTV 4k. If they can't convey to the masses why they NEED HDMI 2.1 it would be just like them selling a new AppleTV 4K only difference being a new case color. Some people would buy it but not many because people won't see the value in that.

Time really isn't that relevant with Apple. We've seen Apple update product lines in under 6 months for very valid technical reasons and we've seen them not update products for 4+ years due to technical limitations. Overall the longer they can sell the AppleTV 4k the better it is for them.
I'm not convinced that the masses buy into Apple TV. It's a true quality product. Here in the UK, the masses tend to be conservative with crappy Sky TV boxes OR Amazon stick or simply their TV smart apps. They want everything hardware wise for free or cheap - many are truly ignorant and know nothing about their data security - pretty clear when so many use Windows computers or Android phones. I'm convinced that these people - and there's many of them are simply not Apple TV customers nd will never be Apple TV + customers.
From what I can see with ATV+ is that Apple aren't going on the Amazon or Disney or Netflix path, they are setting their own standard and my gosh, it's actually 'intelligent' diverse and quite libel TV - quite the opposite from the Murdoch far right Sky TV here in the UK for example.
It's not going to be mass market and it's clear that for now, Apple knows that. But maybe, it's going to be on demand TV for the next generation - the ones who whilst staying at university had iPhones and dreamt of owning a MacBook Pro for their travels.

As a non conventional TV viewer, the Apple TV was always perfect for me - it's an extension of my MacBook and iPhone that I simply love - my only two gadgets!!!!!! - that I travel 9 months of the year with and run a business from as well as using for photos, videos, vlogs, music production in Logic Pro X and Audacity and 4K 60 fps video creation in Final Cut Pro X. The Apple TV is the perfect compliment to the iPhone, MacBoo and iTunes Store and now, Apple Arcade. Personally, I feel that we'll see a Apple TV Pro offered with A13X chip and storage options of 64GB, 128 and maybe 256GB for the Arcade users.
I don't want it to appeal to the masses - they are not into that - they want cheap Firesticks or 'free' Sky TV boxes with their £50 a month TV subscription of dribble filled with badly produced TV ads! That's the 'masses' market here in the UK for TV. It's old, it's traditional and it's pretty dire as in last century.
Apple doesn't fit into that category. They have their own style and it grabs people by the heart, impulse and passion. Cheap or cheaper really does not fit into that ethos instead offering the ultimate user experience with ease of use and beautiful design is their path. BUT many people are not interested in that - that's why they buy Android, Windows basic stuff etc. You can't please everyone. You've just got to follow your goal and path and that's something that Apple has done incredibly well from day 1 and still does 100% in 2020.

On a side line, I feel that HDMI 2.1 is perfect for the seamless auto frame rate switching which is so essential with internet streaming and its huge variety of frame rates. Maybe people don't need to know about it, but it's essential that we have it!
 
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I agree with previous posters - I'm not sure how they would market a spec bump on a set-top box unless it served a purpose that the existing unit can not. Their next hardware "revision" may have actually been the smart TV integration.

I do want that spec bump though so I can play higher quality x265 videos w/plex!
 
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BODYBUILDERPAUL

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I agree with previous posters - I'm not sure how they would market a spec bump on a set-top box unless it served a purpose that the existing unit can not. Their next hardware "revision" may have actually been the smart TV integration.

I do want that spec bump though so I can play higher quality x265 videos w/plex!
Don't worry there will ALWAYS be the Apple TV. It's the highest quality window for iTunes/Apple TV+/AirPlay/Photos/iCloud/HomeSharing etc etc. It compliments EVERYTHING in the Apple portfolio!

Just wait 18 months until current Smart TVs software is not updated and is laggy as hell and wait for the naive moaners!

With Apple TV+ in 4k Dolby vision and Atmos the need for a top quality streaming media centre box is even more important!
 

George Dawes

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I’d like to see graphics comparable to the best iOS games

The arcade games I've played remind me of a SNES , I want a PS4

With a bit of tweaking I’m sure Apple can do this