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They are indeed on a good track. I find their shows statistically better than the average Netflix show which is often a waste of time. I did not see everything, in fact we don't watch TV daily and don't binge either, but these impressed me: Ted Lasso, Mythic Quest, Trying -actually Apple seems to do really well with comedy- , Tehran, Defending Jacob, All for Mankind, The Morning Show. Partly seen and liked were See, The Long Way Up, Losing Alice and Dickinson. Still to sample: Lisey's Story, Servant and Mosquito Coast. There is more that didn't immediately conceptually appeal to me. But, pretty good quality so far. I mainly keep Netflix for the cartoons for my kids, I only occasionally watch something to completion there, like Queen's Gambit. There is more but usually not as watch worthy to me.
I also wonder, how important is back catalog really? Yes, cinephiles may browse through 1970s movies. But I have the impression that most people mainly watch new releases.
 
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It’s going to take Apple about 5 years to build up a library and new show momentum to make TV+ worthwhile subscribing to.

How long did they support Ping?

Why are they so keen on becoming a TV producer?

Imagine if they took the same deep-pockets / get the best talent approach to gaming or even application software?
 
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I'm not currently subscribed but probably will be again at some point when enough new stuff has amassed to make it worth my while. There's some great content but not enough to keep me endlessly pumping my money into it. For those who don't watch the pennies it's a worthwhile service with good content and stellar image quality. Not much else to say.
 
I've found 10 to 15 tv shows, that I liked so far. I'm paying less than €2,10 per month and get 4K picture quality for it. Seems like a bargain to me. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I’m not surprised by this at all. There’s, I believe, about 2000 voting members that have the power to propel a streaming service show into the highly coveted awards circle. With ATV+ being first rate on its audio and video quality, and with the content it has provided so far, it’s become a streaming service loved by about 2000 😀.

To each their own but ATV+ content seems frequently aimed exactly at that “about 2000” audience and those that would be within similar circles. ATV+ content, so far, IMHO, is not often aimed at someone who likes BBQing a brisket, regularly shops at Target, owns a 19$ coffee maker, likes the original Star Trek series, who likes to build/rebuild his Linux servers (that’s umm no resemblance to me, lol).
But as I’ve said in other posts, ATV+ studio is working on their very first production called Masters of the Air. It’ll probably be one of if not the most expensive single season television production ever. And it will likely do big at the awards (it’s predecessors Band of Brothers and The Pacific did very well) plus it’s unquestionably aimed at a more, ahem, blue collar audience. (Blue collars, I’m sure, some probably like ATV+ content as is).
If this new expensive series is an anomaly and ATV+ continues the current content route it has been on, IMHO it will win lots of awards but unlikely ever to be close to a major streaming player.
ATV+ suggestions:
1. go hire a few people from Netflix, learn to make a few wider appeal series
2. buy a library. Put up some movies/free content from years gone by to give viewers something to watch other than ATV+ originals. I mean who wouldn’t tune in to watch Welcome Back Kotter for free 😀
 
How many of those awards did Apple pay for? How many of the awards ceremonies did they subsidize or buy seats at?
 
And I can still hardly find anything I want to watch besides Ted Lasso
I was the same, but now just watched the 3 available episodes of the 80ties dance girl (or whatever the name of the series), pretty good! Reminded me of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jane Fonda, and how they made video fitness a huge business.
 
They are indeed on a good track. I find their shows statistically better than the average Netflix show which is often a waste of time. I did not see everything, in fact we don't watch TV daily and don't binge either, but these impressed me: Ted Lasso, Mythic Quest, Trying -actually Apple seems to do really well with comedy- , Tehran, Defending Jacob, All for Mankind, The Morning Show. Partly seen and liked were See, The Long Way Up, Losing Alice and Dickinson. Still to sample: Lisey's Story, Servant and Mosquito Coast. There is more that didn't immediately conceptually appeal to me. But, pretty good quality so far. I mainly keep Netflix for the cartoons for my kids, I only occasionally watch something to completion there, like Queen's Gambit. There is more but usually not as watch worthy to me.
I also wonder, how important is back catalog really? Yes, cinephiles may browse through 1970s movies. But I have the impression that most people mainly watch new releases.

They are statistically better because they have no back catalogue and limited options.

If you put Apple’s best 10 shows against Netflix then maybe there’s some doubt who wins based on personal preference. Put the best 20-30 shows against each other and Apple is blown away.

Back catalogue doesn’t mean just things from the 1970s it’s shows like Breaking Bad and Parks & Recreation. These are shows you should watch before you bother with anything on Apple TV if you haven’t seen them before.
 
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The immaturity of the average poster really comes out in these Apple TV threads.:rolleyes:

Good for them. Everything I've seen has been top notch.

(Patiently waits for the downvote from the 7 year old playing on Daddy's Mac)
 
The more I think about it, the more you're right.

Apple's problem is their culture. Under Steve Jobs, they wanted to be at the intersection of Technology and Humanities.

Under Tim Cook, it seems like we've swapped that to Expensive and Entertainment. They're willing to do Expensive - they bought Beats and they're buying their way into TV, but the Entertainment is half-hearted. They're not willing to do anything remotely controversial. Instead they've got this awkward thing of "ok, I need to be with this actress in the picture, but I can't let a single soul think that anything at all is happening. There cannot be a single tabloid article about this picture."
It's more than that. Cook has radically corporatized Apple, changing the ethos to a pure focus on profit regardless of the impact on users or the human or social costs. Look at the battles the company is fighting to maintain slavery in its supply chain or against regulation or control, or the easily disproved corporate claims of probity... Apple today is a stereo-typically "evil corporation", it's a really dark company.
 
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despite having it free for more months than I can count, I have never had the slightest urge to watch it.

Disney+ is the way.
 
Disney+ is the way.

Besides the Mandalorian and Loki there is not a single show on Disney+ I am interested in. I like the Starwars films but I have seen them all before. I guess it is great if you have kids, but not for me.

I have not watched everything on Apple TV+, but what I have seen I liked, the average quality is very much fine with me.

Last week I watched Teheran, I was a bit skeptical because based on the description I was not sure if I would line it. But the show immediately got me hooked, maybe ma favorite on Apple TV+.
 
That pic just shows you that Tim Cook is a god small g. His company controls everything, they can do as they please.
 
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