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I would seriously wait on Apple TV till probably holidays if rumors of high end “Pro” version of Apple TV is coming with A14 (or even M1) processor for professionals that demand more (like high powergaming, 8K output, higher storage capacity) is true. Then it would make a worthwhile upgrade.
I must have missed those rumors. It's A$249 base model so the pro model sounds like it will cost A$699.
 
The difference between the latest and previous 4K model is ludicrous, given the time between release dates. No matter how sexy that woman was announcing the new 4K ATV in the the Apple Event, I am not buying the new AT4.
 
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Only Apple can still sell a 5 year old overpriced outdated device. 😂 sad part is people will buy it.
 
Only Apple can still sell a 5 year old overpriced outdated device. 😂 sad part is people will buy it.
I can see a use case. Eg. Bulk enterprise purchases to power digital displays that don't need 4k and fancy features.

But yeah, from consumer perspective, it's not a good buy.
 
Apple Employee here who worked a few years in the department that supports the Apple TV. There was not a lot of huge demand for optical port so I am going to venture out on a limb that was why it was removed. However, you have been able to get these below that will take the hdmi and break the audio and video out. Video into hdmi and audio into whatever you need. They start at about 25$.
Indeed. I stuck with an old Apple TV just because it had an optical port. I bought one of these splitters and tried it out on something else. It worked perfectly, so I could at last upgrade my Apple TV.

You can also direct the sound output of an Apple TV to another Apple device - so you could have a new Apple TV playing through your old unit and carry on using its optical output. I've not tried this scenario, I just know it works.
 
I bought a 4K Sony TV, the OS is slick, I have installed the Apple TV app and Amazon Video, no need for either my Fire Stick or Apple TV anymore, both in the drawer.
 
The SmartTV has definitely gotten better and competing boxes have gotten cheaper, so I agree. But I think there’s still a few good of reasons to get one:

Apple Fitness+ (Airplay from phone doesnt show watch HUD)
Siri
HomeKit (Doorbell/security cam. Home control)
Apple Arcade
iCloud Photos
Remote.app
AirPlay
Nice screensavers


Its a solid device, but still I find this release to be a bit lacking considering how long we’ve been waiting for an update. Overpriced, no “FindMy Remote”, no new features, no spatial audio and not much of an upgrade over last gen. I really wish they integrated more stuff into this like But I’m buying one anyway because I prefer it over any other box/smartTV.
Would add to this that Apple provide OS updates for several years, unlike smart tv manufacturers (2 or 3 years?)
 
Seriously, I don’t see why anyone should buy these things if you already own a high-end TV.

Maybe they should add Safari to tvOS. This will probably attract a lot of buyers.
I have a tv that was high-end when I bought it. The smart part is getting slow, doesn't have airplay, infuse or podcasts, and I generally dislike android. But the panel is still superb.
 
So its worth just buying the new remote if you already have the 4k version?
 
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Seriously, I don’t see why anyone should buy these things if you already own a high-end TV.

Maybe they should add Safari to tvOS. This will probably attract a lot of buyers.
Even though I don't have a 4k tv, I find the newer models just snappier and better to use overall.. The HD model, which I have also.. Is just much slower overall in menu launches, etc.. I also like the idea of the TV power button, sometimes the apple tv doesn't kick on the display..
 
I would appreciate a detailed comparison of the first gen 4K and the new second gen one. I gather that there probably aren’t many enhancements but I’m sure many people are considering an upgrade as well.

New remote (yay!) and better performance for Apple Arcade (if you use that on your AppleTV) are the main differences.
The streaming apps will behave the same way - some different HDR standards supported, but if you already got Dolby Vision working you're fine.

There's also better connectivity, but it's not like wifi5 isn't fast enough - or just use wired.

If the new one would be able to stream surround sound to my AirPod Max headphones, I'll get them - if not, I'll just stay with my existing AppleTV 4ks.
 
Does anyone know the supported resolutions and frame rates for mirroring or extending your desktop. Is 4K finally supported unlike previous version? Btw it's crazy this is not mentioned in the article.
 
Like many others I’m surprised the HD is still around. I was expecting the 4K to become the budget option and perhaps a new M1 based more gaming focused model for £250 or so
 
Seriously, I don’t see why anyone should buy these things if you already own a high-end TV.

Maybe they should add Safari to tvOS. This will probably attract a lot of buyers.

Let me explain. I watch lots of streaming catchup TV as well as other streaming services. Apple TV collates what I've been watching on the Play Next screen. I'm in the UK and have TV episodes from BBC iPlayer, All4, BritBox, Acorn TV and many other services and they all all show on that screen. I can select an episode and carry on watching it. The next episode is automatically queued. If I had to go to each streaming service I would forget what I'd been watching and which service was streaming it. That feature alone is worth the money to me.
 
Seriously, I don’t see why anyone should buy these things if you already own a high-end TV.

Maybe they should add Safari to tvOS. This will probably attract a lot of buyers.
We have a 40 inch 1080p TV in our bedroom my wife primarily uses.

There is no room for a larger TV on the walls and 1080p at, I don't know, 15 to 20 feet, is fine and the 4K resolution difference is indiscernible (to us anyway).

In our basement we have a 4K 65 incher.

We use two Apple TV's because we want a consistent user experience on both TV's.

Hence, the 1080p Apple TV from 2015 is fine for us for one of the televisions.

I dislike the price of the 1080 Apple Box, but if you want a consistent user experience and you have an older and newer TV, there's no other choice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Because non of the things I frequently use on my AppleTV (AppleTV+, Youtube, Airplay..) work on my LG TV nearly as good as on my AppleTV. In fact all these features are unusable on the LG
Even if you had the AppleTV app on your LG (and perhaps you do), the box is a better experience.
 
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I have the Apple TV HD 64GB. The article forgets to mention that the HD models have a usb-c port as well.

It was much appreciated, when I jailbroke on tvos 13.4.5.
 
I was actually surprised that in the 3 and a half years since the first ATV 4K came out the only thing they changed was adding an A12 chip over the A10X which isn’t a large difference overall. They should have added the A12Z or A13 at least. Weird move by Apple.
Typically the even numbered A chips are "long term" support in more devices. Other than A5 which was the huge one for iPad 2/iPhone 4s era. It's always been evens in more products A8, A10, A12.
 
The one exception to smart TVs not receiving updates are Roku TVs.

I stopped using my Apple TV HD a couple of years ago because it seemed like all of the apps were half-baked. I bought this Apple TV in 2015 when it was released. There were some okay apps at the time. Since then most developers of apps I use have abandoned their tvOS apps. Some still work, but haven’t been updated in 4+ years.

Because of that, I really only used the Apple TV for video streaming, so I ditched it and starting using the built in Roku on my TV, which has the exact same apps (and an infinity better remote). It even has AirPlay. It’s nice to have less clutter on my tv stand. Maybe the video app situation is better if you live in the US.

I guess the Apple TV is just not for me.
 
For a lot of people including me the distance I watch TV from and with my eyesight I can't tell the difference between the 4K and 1080p (or even 720p in some cases). No real need to upgrade for that. As I stated earlier I did buy the remote for my HD. Even if I do decide to upgrade later, getting the remote has the benefit of making that HD useful to whomever I hand it down to. I actually have two HDs. The other was for my parents but they absolutely hated the remote so I switched them to Roku.
 
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