I haven't watched Black Widow either, but I can understand the story before seeing it.
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Apple TV+ Shares Trailer for Comedy Series 'Mr. Corman' Starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt
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If they spend enough money, they'll eventually get a hit. It will happen. Sort of there with Ted Lasso.
Apple really needs a show like The Sopranos, or Breaking Bad--something culturally significant--to pull away from the other streaming offerings.
I am holding out hope for Foundation.
It’s an interesting point in life when we discover that we are not the target audience anymore.
Well said. The usual complainers waste no time to let us know how not interested they are.
Sure is. I learned this with music many years ago.It’s an interesting point in life when we discover that we are not the target audience anymore.
"people feel the need to explain in excruciating details why they don’t pay/plan to pay for it."
You're on a fanatic site where people discuss RAM speed and the revolutions per minute of hard drives (or the lack thereof, these days). That you're complaining of people detailing their feelings of the ATV+ product is surprising.
Hmm. Strange touchy-go-feely type music for the ad has me not interested. Well that and another movie with Joseph in slo-mo in mid-air, at least he's not grinning doing it this time, lol.
An interesting view for this subject tho, I think I'll watch it.
There’s plenty of threads where people already discuss why they don’t like Apple TV+ and/or why they think Apple shouldn’t even bother. The article is about a new show and its trailer. Let’s discuss that. At most say “Not something that’ll convince me to subscribe”, but no need for a nth diatribe. It’s as if anytime MacRumors posted on the front page that there is an iPadOS X.X update, I went on about why I haven’t bought an iPad yet.
I do not think that is going to happen simply because Apple is making shows based on a business market study. Its very obvious in their offerings, its like they are trying a soup recipe.
"What brings viewers? Big stars? ok add that. We need some current social/political issue to stir interest ok add that too. Scifi has a strong following right? Ok lets make a SciFi WITH big star names , surely that will sell"
this doesn't work with film/tv because I believe there is still an element of art to it. Apple is treating it like a business product.
By that explanation Netflix should be out of business as they clearly do the same thing, just on a different scale.
You said: "based on a business market study."
Interesting you say that. I was reading this article from NPR that has an interview with Barry Diller and he also mentioned how TV shows and ideas are "algorithmic."
Is that what its happening here? Streamers are just creating series based on marketing studies and algo's?
If so, that is awful. A show is art. II'm not sure you can make great art with an algo or market study.
"It’s as if anytime MacRumors posted on the front page that there is an iPadOS X.X update, I went on about why I haven’t bought an iPad yet."
People do that all the time. All. The. Time.
Just part of an Apple forum.
Correct, the inability to stay on topic is strong with some. I don’t think however this is specific to Apple forums, it’s just the nature of some.
Jesus. Keep justifying it all you want. People seem to be annoyed by it all the same.
Why are we going back to the one-episode-a-week schedules??
it’s so annoying, we’re going backwards… streaming services are now becoming tv channels.
it’s so annoying, we’re going backwards… streaming services are now becoming tv channels.
Yes and no. Some shows failed misrrebly but they had few with a strong following and were not in need of big name stars to sell the show. AFAIK the following are successful show without big star names:
Orange is the new Black, The Crown, Stranger Things, Narcos, Black Mirror, Money heist
But, Just like Apple tv+, that is not enough to subscribe to Netflix. Netflix also has a huge catalogue of other shows and movies people like to watch. If Apple did the same I am sure they will get a lot more subscribers. If it was just Netflix Originals I can see them going out of business.
Well... obviously. If you watch current movies and tv show you can spot the exact formula or algorithms if you might. Its no surprised we are on Transfomers 17 and Fast and Furious 19. Some movies and tv show move out of that space but many of them are just copy cats of the previously successful one.. Remember the zombie craze when everything was about zombies, now we are in the super hero craze every film/show maker is making multiple super hero content.
If you go back in time say around pre-2005 films and shows were closer about finding a great idea and making money of that. You can go back and just see how much things were creative and different back then. There was much more risk taking. Now it seems they start with a budget like $30M and say "Okay, how can I make this return the most money back to me?"
Of course, I do not blame them. Making shows/films is extremely expensive and a long process. I think one episode of a show like Friends reached $10M budget. Who is willing to pay $10M/episode out of his own pocket money for the love of tv or cinema? Its a business after all and profit comes first.