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Apple TV+ Shares Trailer for Oprah and Prince Harry's Mental Health Docuseries
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The comments on this thread are a great reminder of how selfish people are and how they lack empathy. Someone's net worth does not equate to them not having to deal with the struggles of life and having their mental health suffer.
In essence, mental health is the same as physical health - so what you're saying is "I don't care these people have suffered pain or illness - they have so much money they should just keep quiet".
It's comical because often people think "if I had more money I'd be happy, I'd be fine" and that's far from the reality. I'm sure many of you can relate to that. Just because you have financial resources doesn't mean everything in life is perfect.
Perhaps instead of moaning and groaning about something you're not interested in, you keep quiet and learn to have a little empathy for others regardless of their celebrity status and net worth. It's called being a decent person.
In essence, mental health is the same as physical health - so what you're saying is "I don't care these people have suffered pain or illness - they have so much money they should just keep quiet".
It's comical because often people think "if I had more money I'd be happy, I'd be fine" and that's far from the reality. I'm sure many of you can relate to that. Just because you have financial resources doesn't mean everything in life is perfect.
Perhaps instead of moaning and groaning about something you're not interested in, you keep quiet and learn to have a little empathy for others regardless of their celebrity status and net worth. It's called being a decent person.
But this series looks like it's just going to be another way for celebs to assuage their guilt of being hyper-rich by showing that they too have human problems**. That's true, but not useful.
It's as if I went to my psychologist and they started to tell me about their marriage problems, their dead-beat parents etc. There is little indication that being more open about about mental health issues actual solves any thing in the long run.
They would be better off with a 5 hour lecture series on Stoicism or Buddhism or even one of the major Abrahamic religions, rather than this presumably self-indulgent celeb-fest.
**I have never wanted to be rich or famous - just competent and respected in my work and life.
I watch TV mostly to escape from reality of life for those 2 hours. Can Apple TV entertain people ever?
Well, here comes another compelling reason why many people are not going to get convinced to subscribe to Apple TV yet.
They're still duke and duchess, but lose the HRH (His/her Royal Highness) as they are no longer working royals and thus representing the queen. He remains a prince.
I would actually be quite interested in this... except for Oprah. And Harry. So yeah, hard pass.
WHATEVER. Mental illness is extremely misunderstood by most people, and needs more transparency. Money cannot always buy a solution to the struggles that come with mental illness. If high profile cases draw attention and help people understand, perhaps it can help pave the way democratically toward better and more accessible mental healthcare for everyone.
I didn't say I don't care, but you need to put things in perspective. He is likely getting paid to discuss these issues, someone will make money off of this show.
The truth is that he has access to help that others don't, the best in the world. It is very hard for the average person to be made to have concern about the issues of people who have the means by which get help, when they don't.
Also, his help doesn't come in the form of an interview Oprah, it comes in the form of professional help. If there was an article published "Prince Harry sees Therapist Regularly for Help with Mental Health Issues" I would say "good for him for getting help" and I think it would inspire others to seek professional help.
When the headline is instead: "Billionaire non-doctor Oprah talks to Millionaire Prince Harry about his mental health issues for television and profit" I'm not as interested.
I can’t explain people’s fascination with royalty or the rich but it’s definitely not anything new. Shakespeare, Homer, and all of the fairy tales are either centered around Royalty or on some clever commoner and their interactions with Royalty.
Many people don’t pay attention to a problem until and unless someone “Important “ comes out and says that it is a problem, even if the conditions themselves are known by a lot of people beforehand.
Requiring royalty, which in the US means the extreme rich, to publicly say that there is a problem before even something feeble is done about it isn’t new, or peculiar to just Europe and North America. Most societies around the world have and continue to act the same way.
Maybe Oprah can do a series about how our leaders have no clothes, just so everyone else can quit pretending.
Many people don’t pay attention to a problem until and unless someone “Important “ comes out and says that it is a problem, even if the conditions themselves are known by a lot of people beforehand.
Requiring royalty, which in the US means the extreme rich, to publicly say that there is a problem before even something feeble is done about it isn’t new, or peculiar to just Europe and North America. Most societies around the world have and continue to act the same way.
Maybe Oprah can do a series about how our leaders have no clothes, just so everyone else can quit pretending.
Money can't buy a cure. but it can buy them not having to work and going to a high-priced spa resort to get individualized treatment from the best providers in the world, without having to worry about caring for their family and cooking dinner and mowing their yard and repairing their fence and feeding their pets and hundreds of other things that normal people have to deal with while also struggling with mental illness. people want stories they can relate to, not a celeb PR tour.
They still have their HRH, they just by agreement don’t use them. They had all of their patronages yanked and honorary military titles also removed. Which is kind of amusing in light of the new scandal of the Queen’s cousin.
But Harry has retained military honors he earned from his active combat service.
I don’t know jack squat about Oprah, but from my own work in mental health advocacy, as the daughter of parents who suffered with war-related PTSD, one as a refugee and the other as a soldier, I am aware of Prince Harry’s work and he doesn’t whine about his problems for the sake of whining. He shares to erase the stigma, especially for veterans.
He’s thus far been sensitive to the fact he has advantages most people don’t, and from what I have seen has been humbly self effacing. His involvement in organizations always stresses and highlights and credits the work other people are doing. Again, this is merely my perspective. I don’t know what everyone else has been seeing over the years.
That’s not to say this project won’t suffer from sensationalized editing. Again, Oprah is a big question mark for me. My friends who are more familiar with her productions than I am have very mixed opinions of her work.
She's not quite to the "look up the definition of virtue signal and her picture is there" level - but pretty close
Imagine thinking so highly of yourself that you believe that people enjoy watching you go through therapy. That's the type of narcissism that I cannot defend. I get it that you need some minimum amount of self-centredness to be a successful artist, but this isn't about their art, this is just sheer, unadulterated egomania.
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That was my first and last time paying any heed to Oprah Winfrey other than watching the interview she had with Harry and Meghan. I thought she interrupted again. And later I saw excerpts of the interview that were left out that were more informative and cohesive than what was left in, so I seriously question her editing skills. She tends to sensationalize everything like most of these talk show hosts do.
I don’t know what substance we are going to get out of this special. I hope for the sake of mental health advocacy it is substantive. But I’m not expecting much unless Oprah has evolved a LOT since that interview with that woman I described. This subject requires some measure of empathy and the willingness to get out of one’s own media mogul head. I don’t know if Harry can exert enough influence enough to pull that off or will he get sucked into the virtue signaling flavor that does seem to pervade the best intentioned work these days. Which is understandable, it’s a normal human failing.
I once saw her interview a woman who had a severe memory impairment. She constantly interrupted the woman and then said she envied her because there were some things she would like to forget. The poor woman didn’t know what to say to that. She had just detailed how her life was a living hell.She's not quite to the "look up the definition of virtue signal and her picture is there" level - but pretty close
That was my first and last time paying any heed to Oprah Winfrey other than watching the interview she had with Harry and Meghan. I thought she interrupted again. And later I saw excerpts of the interview that were left out that were more informative and cohesive than what was left in, so I seriously question her editing skills. She tends to sensationalize everything like most of these talk show hosts do.
I don’t know what substance we are going to get out of this special. I hope for the sake of mental health advocacy it is substantive. But I’m not expecting much unless Oprah has evolved a LOT since that interview with that woman I described. This subject requires some measure of empathy and the willingness to get out of one’s own media mogul head. I don’t know if Harry can exert enough influence enough to pull that off or will he get sucked into the virtue signaling flavor that does seem to pervade the best intentioned work these days. Which is understandable, it’s a normal human failing.
I just think back to the days when she started as a weather forecaster on the news who managed to land a talk show in the golden age of trash tv talk shows. I do give her credit for being able to parlay that into her existing empire. If people didn't pay attention to her she wouldn't be where she is so she has figured that much out.
Agree, and it always staggers me how people harbour so much bitter resentment and envy for those who have more than them, whilst conveniently disregarding their own privilege. I'd assume that everyone on this forum has a roof over their head and enough disposable income to own a Mac or an iPhone, so there's far more people on this planet who have less than us than there are who have more - yet our mental health issues are just as real and valid.
Who the hell cares? Watching a bunch of ultra rich people talk about “mental health”? Pure trash. I wouldn’t watch it if you paid me. Why even put this garbage out in the first place?
I bet it bombs.
Edit: BTW, this kind of trash content is why I don’t have and never will have an Apple+ subscription.
I bet it bombs.
Edit: BTW, this kind of trash content is why I don’t have and never will have an Apple+ subscription.
Exactly. Mental health problems can spring up out of seeming nowhere in anyone because it’s not just caused by environmental stressors but can also arise from spontaneous changes in biochemistry. Otherwise many mental illnesses wouldn’t be treatable with pharmaceuticals.
I do understand people on this thread are put off by the manner in which celebrities discuss their problems. That is definitely a factor that anyone who puts together this kind of program needs to be aware of and sensitive to. I can only hope they did a good job with this. The subject matter is important. So is the handling.
these TV docu shows are very intentional.
they want dumbasses to buy expensive bicycles,
cough up extra money they need to enter these rigged "cure for" tours.
so they feel better about a planet they cant figure out.
these participants dont have the strength, proper training or DNA to ride all those miles.
they want dumbasses to buy expensive bicycles,
cough up extra money they need to enter these rigged "cure for" tours.
so they feel better about a planet they cant figure out.
these participants dont have the strength, proper training or DNA to ride all those miles.
