LOL... Agreed!
I love the Apple TV and want one really bad, but I have to wait until I have the extra $300
Nonetheless, all these topics do seem a bit much to me too... So you're not alone, heh. 
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LOL... Agreed!
I love the Apple TV and want one really bad, but I have to wait until I have the extra $300
Nonetheless, all these topics do seem a bit much to me too... So you're not alone, heh. Wireless chipset
I find it bizarre that the Apple TV is using a Broadcom-sourced wi-fi card. Up until now, the Intel Macs have all used Atheros chipsets (both the original G and pre-N). The original PPC Airport Extreme cards were from Broadcom though.
Especially for draft-spec equipment like this, compatibility is best with the same chipset in every device. Does anyone know what the new pre-N AirPort Extreme base station has in it?
I find it bizarre that the Apple TV is using a Broadcom-sourced wi-fi card. Up until now, the Intel Macs have all used Atheros chipsets (both the original G and pre-N). The original PPC Airport Extreme cards were from Broadcom though.
Especially for draft-spec equipment like this, compatibility is best with the same chipset in every device. Does anyone know what the new pre-N AirPort Extreme base station has in it?
Actually, I'm wondering why everyone keeps mentionning DivX and XviD. Those are simply MPEG-4 + MP3 inside an AVI container, and in a lot of cases the MP3 is VBR and that breaks the AVI specs.
Why not do the right thing and (finally) drop DivX/XviD and switch to MPEG-4/AAC (.mp4). Or even better, switch to H.264/AAC (.mp4 again)
AnandTech Dissection
AnandTech's dissection is probably the most comprehensive we will ever get.
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2951
AnandTech's dissection is probably the most comprehensive we will ever get.
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2951
If the
TV doesn't do 5.1 it soon will..Realtek ALC885 Codec Chip :
http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=28&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=138
From the quoted article via Realtek's website ..
The reason people are fanatic about AVI containers is the fact that it uses AC3 audio (retaining the ORIGINAL audio in full glorious surround sound as it was intended) This is the sole reason I use AVI containers, instead of MP4s I really wish MP4s could use AC3s so I coulds actually use the Apple TV
Isnt the Mac Pro's card the same as the AppleTVs 2-pronged connection?? I think the MacBook/MBP's have a 3-pronged connection (for the 3 antennas).
Nonetheless, all these topics do seem a bit much to me too... So you're not alone, heh.
Ok, I propose we appease you folks by not talking about the Apple TV.
So tomorrow's feature story can be "Nope, no new MacBooks announced yet". Followed by "Nope, no new iMacs yet." Followed by "Apple Stores report no stock issues on any iPod models". "Wall Street Journal didn't write any articles about Mac products today". "Nothing new in Software Updates today". "No new iTunes version released yet."
Apple TV's in the news because it's news.
Interesting - they think it's a custom version of the "Dothan" Pentium-M CPU's, proabably at 1GHz.
Engadget also has some photos of the AppleTV internals:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/apple-tv-dissected/
http://www.engadget.com/photos/apple-tv-dissected/
If the
Realtek ALC885 Codec Chip :
http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=28&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=138
From the quoted article via Realtek's website ..
People are already getting 5.1 output on handbreak's forum. Its a developer release so you need to svn and compile the code. They are using a 6 channel AAC audio format.
I wish there were more pictures of this bizarre cooling system Apple is using...
Has anyone figured out how they are doing it from the pics provided?
Has anyone figured out how they are doing it from the pics provided?
Hmmmm $300...seems more then a little high considering the design being a pretty vanilla setup. And please don't throw out R&D. Forget a killing. Apple must be making a genocide on each system.
What cooling is needed? Seriously. The only reason a fan is even needed it to get the heat out of the box. The specs leaked say what is in the thing is a 1ghz Pentium M (Not even core.) CPU with an underclocked FSB. The GPU is a Nvidia G72M which is a so so GPU EDIT: Its a Go 7300...a laptop vcard. Definitely will run cool.
All in all it should be a pretty cool running system.
That's what the rumor mills have been saying since Jan.
OK now I'm waiting for someone to clone the drive and use one of these...
On the TV
The real question is has Apple neutered the capacity that the system can see. If not...slap a 500GB HD in a home brewed cage under the TV, cut out a slit in the back bottom side of system and call it a day.
On the
TV The real question is has Apple neutered the capacity that the system can see. If not...slap a 500GB HD in a home brewed cage under the
TV, cut out a slit in the back bottom side of system and call it a day. Attachments
Container issues aside (dont really know much about it) a lot of people use to use DivX because it was the smallest format at the time, a few years ago when I still used PC's (yes Im ashamed of those days) DivX was the best way to encode my DVD's.. sure now I can do everything in h.264 but what am I suppose to do with my old library? Re-encode all my DVD's?
Personally everyone says is so easy to open.. but all those screws... I know how i will work.. definately a screw loose after I get into a
TV Yup, that everyone includes me.
Been burning up the wireless N in my MB Core Duo for weeks now.Uhh, most G3 Macs can run Tiger just fine, chief. The only requirments are a G3 with firewire & 256MB of RAM.
Does anyone know, FOR SURE, if the Apple TV will play x264 files?
Yes, I've read the tech specs. Yes, I know it plays h264 and protected h264. If that's all you've got, please move on to the next topic.
For anyone who can actually answer this question with a real response, I thank you.
Yes, I've read the tech specs. Yes, I know it plays h264 and protected h264. If that's all you've got, please move on to the next topic.
For anyone who can actually answer this question with a real response, I thank you.
Increase cost? The OS is certainly less than 1gb (and probably less than 256MB). The cost for that amount of flash is trivial. $3 or $4 later, they've got a system that will run even with a dead hard drive (and be able to tell you that the drive is dead), not to mention the obvious benefits of running an embedded OS from a controlled environment isolated from casual prying eyes.
It probably is running a variant of the iPhone OS X--which is all the more reason to conclude it's stuffed into a flash chip. No smartphone-class device runs an OS bigger than 64MB or so.
