Apple TV Turning off TV over HDMI-CEC

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  1. gman36, Nov 4, 2015
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    gman36 macrumors regular

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    My ATV4 seems to be able to turn on my TV when I wake it with the remote. But it doesn't turn off the TV when I put it to sleep. Is this the case with everyone else?

    Can everyone post their TV make and model, and if your CEC Turns ON/OFF/ON AND OFF, so we can get a list going for other members on the forum?

    Apple TV Turns BOTH ON and OFF
    Samsung Smarts
    JVC 55" LED (2015)
    Vizio E series
    Vizo M-Series (As of Sep 2016, OTA Firmware Update)

    Apple TV Turns ON (But NOT OFF)
    LG65EF9500
    LG OLED
    Vizio P-Series

    Apple TV Turns OFF (But NOT ON)



    TV Brand CEC Naming

    • AOC: E-link
    • Hitachi: HDMI-CEC
    • LG: SimpLink
    • Mitsubishi: NetCommand for HDMI
    • Onkyo: RIHD
    • Panasonic: HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, or VIERA Link
    • Philips: EasyLink
    • Pioneer: Kuro Link
    • Runco International: RuncoLink
    • Samsung: Anynet+
    • Sharp: Aquos Link
    • Sony: BRAVIA Sync
    • Toshiba: CE-Link or Regza Link
    • Vizio: CEC
     
  2. ikenstein macrumors member

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    I'm actually having the opposite problem. My remote turns off my TV when i put ATV4 to sleep, but doesn't turn the TV back on when I wake the ATV4. My TV is a Panasonic Vierra Plasma from a few (5-6) years ago.
     
  3. 3square macrumors regular

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    ditto. same for me. mine is a Philips tv, they use EasyLink. It's another name for HDMI-CEC. i'm gonna have to poke around in the setting later and see
     
  4. PilotWoo macrumors regular

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    On my Sony Bravia, it powers on the TV when turning AppleTV on, and powers it off when I put it to sleep. It works well, and I like it.
     
  5. mrklaw macrumors 65816

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    That is how it should work. The problem I have is that if the TV is already on, then I use the Apple TV, then put it to sleep, the Apple TV turns my TV off. That is incorrect behaviour - it should not turn equioment off if it didn't turn it on originally.

    My other equipment with HDMI CEC behaves well enough. For now I'm doing the workaround where you leave the Apple TV on and manually change inputs. Then when the ATV sleeps automatically, it doesn't power off your stuff. Not great though as one of the benefits of HDMI CEC was hopefully to not have to manually change inputs. I wanted to be watching my DVR, power up Apple auto switch HDMI, watch something, sleep Apple TV and auto switch back to my DVR input.
     
  6. revokin macrumors member

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    Mine is same w/ Vizio M70-C3. I have it going through Denon receiver though. It turns off the receiver but not the TV. May be something with receiver turning off before TV gets message though.
     
  7. cardsdoc macrumors 6502

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    HDMI-CEC can be a little tricky and doesn't always behave as intended I have found. On your TV or AV receiver you have to find the correct settings to enable HDMI CEC. Additionally there may be a separate setting to allow the device to be powered off by CEC. If CEC is enabled but not the power off setting it may behave as you describe where it powers on your TV but not off. My initially did that too until I changed the power off setting.
     
  8. machpost macrumors 6502

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    I have an 8-year-old Panasonic Plasma, and you can change the settings in the TV's setup menu for whether you want external devices to turn the TV on or off. You can enable or disable either one. I believe the feature is called EZ Sync on this model. It's called Viera Link on my newer Panasonic.
     
  9. ikenstein macrumors member

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    Thanks. I'll check when I get home later.
     
  10. Marcus-B- macrumors newbie

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    I have the same problem with my Panasonic Vierra Plasma. The frustrating thing is the Apple TV turns itself on whilst I am watching Sky and then puts itself to sleep, turning the TV off, whilst I am watching something else. One of a few bugs I am experiencing at the moment sadly.
     
  11. darknyt macrumors 6502a

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    Tricky is an understatement - I entered HDMI switching hell last night setting up my ATV 4. Just put in place of the ATV 3 and worked fine at first via Denon to Mit 73C9, but then mistakenly switched audio to source from Denon ( so it tripped Airplay on Denon) and it went downhill from there. Any button press on Apple siri remote switched the HDMI away from current input.

    I had to go into Denon HDMI settings and try to fiddle with the CEC settings. Still not sure it's right. May just factory reset Denon.
     
  12. gman36 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I forgot to mention, my tv is a Vizio M43-C1.
     
  13. d21mike macrumors 68040

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    Not sure I have the same VIZIO (70" 4K) but it has a setting to AUTO POWER OFF if no signal for 10 minutes (had to active that option). What happens (in my case) is the SIRI Remote will POWER on the VIZIO which will then POWER ON the Samsung Sound Bar which SIRI Remote will start to control for volume. Then when I put ATV to Sleep it will POWER OFF the sound bar and not the TV. BUT, then the TV will power off because of no signal. Works really nice. This actually solved a problem I was having where the TV would POWR ON and POWR ON the sound bar but I would have to power cycle the sound bar to get the TV Remote to control the Volume which was strange. Now with the ATV SIRI Remote I do not have that problem. I love my new setup.
     
  14. machpost macrumors 6502

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    And of course after trying it, my new Apple TV still turns off the TV when I put it to sleep, despite the fact that I've disabled CEC Power Off on the TV. Turning off CEC entirely was the only option.
     
  15. madKIR macrumors 6502

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    Just created a separate thread as I didn't see this one.

    I got a new Apple TV last Friday. Everything had been working fine up until last night when I noticed that switching off the Apple TV didn't turn off my TV. I had to switch it off and back on again a couple of times in order to register that. Turning off the TV manually wakes up the Apple TV.
    This morning I got the same thing. Restarting the device hasn't solved the issue.
     
  16. Ray2, Nov 5, 2015
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    Panasonic Plasma with Viera Link here. Initially, same issues as others have noted. For me it was a combination of Panny settings and user education.

    You need to go into the Panny's Viera settings and turn on functionality. There's about 3 settings.

    ATV on, Panny switches on, you then need to sleep the ATV. Hold Home button down for a second or 2 then sleep. Panny will turn off.

    It's been flawless for 4 days now.
     
  17. Xxexilexx macrumors newbie

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    Same issue... Vizio P series
     
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    It's working perfectly on my Samsung LED TV... so far any ways ☑️
     
  20. LiveM macrumors 6502a

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    Another good thing about Bravias is that when paired with your PlayStation controllers you can control ATV with them - but alas, not play its games.

    Also the best 4k scaling...
     
  21. rneglia macrumors 6502

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    I have a Sony Bravia TV and receiver. Apple TV keeps turning everything back on after 5 minutes, even when I put it to sleep.

    Help!
     
  22. gman36 thread starter macrumors regular

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    This is what mine is set up to as well. But since my ATV is in my bedroom, the blacklight bleed from the "No Input " screen, is kind of annoying lol
     
  23. gman36 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Im guessing this specific issue is a vizio software setting. I wish we could have more control over the hdmi-cec settings.
     
  24. shk718 macrumors 65816

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    i have the LG OLED TV and can't seem to get the Apple TV remote to shut it off - grrrrr. i have the ATV connected to the receiver and the receiver connected to the TV. Turns the TV on fine but won't turn it off and i can't find anything that will turn the tv off if it doesn't receive a signal after a period of time.
     
  25. madKIR macrumors 6502

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    In the same boat.
    I also have an LG TV. However, the Apple TV does turn it off most of the time. Unfortunately it's not a given! The first five days it had been working just fine. It started happening a couple of days ago. I can't find anything in the TV settings that would make it automatically shut off when there is no signal. Ridiculous!
     

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