Name calling doesn't change the fact that you were too lazy to check what you were buying ... not the company's fault.
Now, does Apple need to do something better with the Apple TV? Absolutely agree with you!
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Name calling doesn't change the fact that you were too lazy to check what you were buying ... not the company's fault.
Now, does Apple need to do something better with the Apple TV? Absolutely agree with you!
The notification can be swiped to the left to show view. Tap that and you input in the notification. The remote app isn't required to be on the device as it's built into iOS 10. It astounds me that no one can figure this out as it's literally the same way you can reply to messages in their notification.
That's straight up Amazon's fault. The Apple TV has a bloody App Store that anyone can develop for.
As far as universal search goes it's actually quite intuitive.
- Say, "show me classic movies with John Wayne directed by John Ford" and it'll take you to a platform agnostic view and give you a bunch of different choices you have immediate access to (including renting/buying them from iTunes).
- Say, "show me classic movies with John Wayne directed by John Ford on Netflix" and it'll slide up a view that shows just those movies on that specific service.
Siri is faster than on the iPhone and understands me perfectly fine even in a house with noisy small children. I like it a heck of a lot better than Roku's outdated UI with its massive 1/3 ad on the home screen. Can't speak about the Fire TV.
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Apple has to take some blame, too. Apple TV would be vastly better if it had Amazon Prime, and in a searchable form. There is clearly a reason why Amazon have held out. Tim Cook should get on the phone to Jeff Bezos and say, "Let's get this sorted."
Agree with this I constantly see those who say you don't need 4K because there is no content. This is so wrong of course but what is really strange is that Apple sell devices that record in 4K but you cannot play it back on the ATV. It is not dissimilar to the fact that they are selling a new laptop and a new iPhone 7 and it is impossible to connect one to the other without buying a separate dongle.
Yes ^^^.... Amazon video, vudu, Fandangonow, and the like have their apps all over the place but, they all just decided not to make 1 more app for Apple TV...that has to be it
Yes ^^^.... Amazon video, vudu, Fandangonow, and the like have their apps all over the place but, they all just decided not to make 1 more app for Apple TV...that has to be it
But then why doesn't Amazon support Chromecast in their app when it would be trivial to implement? Face it, Amazon doesn't want to put their apps on competitor's set top boxes. They want you to buy their FireTV. Apples cut of IAP and subscriptions is probably a factor, but isn't the only one, given the fact that they refuse chromecast too.
Amazon is on Roku who sells TONS of boxes but, for the most part I agree, they want you to buy their box. On the flip side how many boxes besides Apple tv have itunes? It works both ways and I think it's ridiculous. This is why my primary box is Roku, they except everybody, which gives them all of them except itunes.
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Amazon wants to play the same game Apple does, buy our box and use only our service to buy and rent movies. Roku is the winner with all this crap.
I think the main issue here is that the OP is from the UK and we've been let down by the likes of Channel 4 and ITV where they (for whatever reason) have decided that the ATV isn't worth creating an app for.
Had those apps been created then there might have been a chance, but as it stands it's dead in the water over here.
Slightly different picture for you fine folk in the US, but I do agree that the OP should have read the specs before buying.
Me-I grab a few US films here and there for the digital collection when they're cheap enough via the digital shops/forums selling them, but bar that-doesn't get used that much anymore.
Had those apps been created then there might have been a chance, but as it stands it's dead in the water over here.
Slightly different picture for you fine folk in the US, but I do agree that the OP should have read the specs before buying.
Me-I grab a few US films here and there for the digital collection when they're cheap enough via the digital shops/forums selling them, but bar that-doesn't get used that much anymore.
The ATV itself is great and 1080p is more then enough (more didn't exist till just a year ago and the whole world watched TV anyways). The remote itself, however is a piece of s**t. When watching a movie it is impossible to pick up without affecting the play. It doen't have a clear top or bottom, so you are always in search for the right end. An that (yes lets call it a touch bar
) completely sucks especially when used for typing. ATV very good Remote very BAD.But Apple deliberately keeping mail and browsers from the ATV and apparently most users excepting this is just the worst.
Personally, this isn't a problem. It seems natural to always place the remote facing the TV and so it's easy just pick it up by the bottom end.
Agreed, but I find speech recognition/Siri to be fine.An that (yes lets call it a touch bar
If you really can't get on with it, you could consider using the old aluminium or white plastic apple remotes, a TV or AV receiver remote, or a universal remote. All can work with the ATV, although it seems a shame because (IMO) the remote and its UI integration are great features of ATV 4.
No, it doesn't, as the old remote is IR and the ATV4 doesn't have an IR sensor, because it works on bluetooth now.
Conclusion on all 3 counts: the ATV4 remote is horrible. I do have to say, that the bluetooth however is far better than the IR it used to have. Now you can just click, while with the IR Remote you had to be a sniper.
Strange: have of my reply is in the original message.
This is incorrect. The AppleTV 4 WILL WORK with IR remotes. I have a Harmony 650 that works with the ATV4. Although, I personally like the ATV4 remote, and use it 95% of the time over the Harmony.
As I and many others have suggested, adding a very inexpensive case to the remote does wonders. Try it out. I bought 5 silicone cases for $6 on eBay and have them on my 3 ATVs with 2 to spare. Good $6 spend for sure.
I think you missed the tech specs. The 4th gen. has an IR receiver and the Siri remote also supports IR in addition to Bluetooth.
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP724?locale=en_CA
Overall I don't think the ATV is bad, but pretending it doesn't have some things that could be improved is sort of putting on the blinders. The OP has a valid point... the remote is a black rectangle with no discernible way to tell which way is "up" in the dark without picking it up and feeling. The unfortunate part of that is while you are figuring it out based on feel, if you pick up the trackpad end, it starts scrubbing through whatever your watching. During the day, less of an issue. At night when watching a movie in the dark, this is a problem. The strap loop/case isn't a bad idea but a little goofy to have to use for a remote IMO.
Another complaint - and maybe its just me - but when I scrub through a movie looking for a particular place, when I find it and go to click/play, I have to be very careful my finger doesn't "roll" or right as I click it will scrub further back or forward. But maybe that can be fixed by changing the sensitivity, I haven't tinkered with it yet.
Another complaint - and maybe its just me - but when I scrub through a movie looking for a particular place, when I find it and go to click/play, I have to be very careful my finger doesn't "roll" or right as I click it will scrub further back or forward. But maybe that can be fixed by changing the sensitivity, I haven't tinkered with it yet.
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I've tried 4 different IR remotes with the ATV4 and all work. It has Bluetooth and IR.
I'm happy enough sideloading the tvbrowser app for now. The only thing I want it for is to be able to easily log into those idiotic hotel wifi logins.The ATV itself is great and 1080p is more then enough (more didn't exist till just a year ago and the whole world watched TV anyways). The remote itself, however is a piece of s**t. When watching a movie it is impossible to pick up without affecting the play. It doen't have a clear top or bottom, so you are always in search for the right end. An that (yes lets call it a touch bar
But Apple deliberately keeping mail and browsers from the ATV and apparently most users excepting this is just the worst.
But, yeah. Why not allow it on the app store? User experience I suppose. Mail would be a horrible UX IMO. At best it would be extremely limiting.
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That's not proof. That's just speculation. Bezos is just as alpha male as Cook is. If he thinks it's a bad business move then he won't do it. Heck, Amazon pulled ALL of Apple's iDevices and Apple TVs from their own listings.
One-post wonder. Buy something that better suits your expectations but do your homework first. Sheesh.
Didn't know that. thx.
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I sure did.
ThxI had AppleTVs 3 and 4, and cannot figure out what the hell you are talking about. Are you sure you own it and not just saw at a friend? And the remote/app stuff, the issue is on the couch
Don't be too happy though, as IR remote is severely limited compared to original one. Try going forward/backward in Netflix or YouTube video for example, or skipping to end.Didn't know that. thx.
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I sure did.
ATV4 does not really have anything over ATV3. The apps are bad, remote is bad, no bitstream audio, no auto frame rate, etc etc. IMHO it is the worst product from Apple by far. Third party app support did not do anything to make it better. Netflix and YouTube are prime examples. I use Infuse sometimes, but it is nothing special. It's slow, does not really support metadata from .m4v, etc etc.
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wow sounds like someone didn't do any research before making a decision and now wants to blame Apple. Seems like that's all this forum is anymore...
I love my aTV4 and use it constantly all day. None of the issues you have, then again, I know how to manage my expectations
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But you see, Apple didn't make this device catering to pirates. It's for people who just want to sit down and put something on. Not torrent files, convert formats, store on NAS server, etc...I've found the 3rd party apps to be pretty great personally, remote works fine.
wow sounds like someone didn't do any research before making a decision and now wants to blame Apple. Seems like that's all this forum is anymore...
I love my aTV4 and use it constantly all day. None of the issues you have, then again, I know how to manage my expectations
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But you see, Apple didn't make this device catering to pirates. It's for people who just want to sit down and put something on. Not torrent files, convert formats, store on NAS server, etc...I've found the 3rd party apps to be pretty great personally, remote works fine.