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Apple Tweaks iPhone 16 Pro Action Button Design as Early Development Continues

AndiG said:
That is why I left Apples Ecosystem more that 10 years ago. Now I’m FREE and that‘s an awesome feeling. I‘m still using iPone/Watch/Macbook but I‘m also switched lots of my work process to Linux und to other Software solutions. I ignore Apple Services wherever and whenever I can (Spotify over Apple Music/No Apple TV/Different Cloud Providers/Different Password Managers/Cloud Storage/… - just to name a few).
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There is still the benefits of airdrop, iMessages, continuity etc that can’t be touched outside of the ecosystem. I’m not suggesting you use them, but these are services that don’t require subs, that I find extremely useful that I would miss outside of the ecosystem.

The Apple Ecosystem makes things easy for those who want an easy workflow, or don’t have the technical expertise or desire to move around across several platforms.
 
killhippie said:
I looked at my iPhone and thought yep I can get that in an app with a subscription model that I detest, but this is the kind of thing that should be baked in, not a journal. Also get rid of the glass back use something else,try real better battery life thats not hinged on the CPU a redesigned camera set up so its not that ugly and hard to clean between the gaps three lens in a triangle look, just try something new without worrying about a button, I seriously don't care about a buttons shape, or its haptic feedback when haptics uses battery life. Buying a phone just for USB C when it still had USB 2 transfer speeds was an insult to many too. Apple just do something useful and different with that rectangle. Where's the true innovation, I mean how long till we get rid of the 'dynamic island which has so few truly useful features its almost useless as a design language. <sigh>
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Everything you’ve said is the exactly reason why I’ve contemplated dumping my Apple shares since the 15 released.
Apple doesn’t innovate anymore. Tim Cooke has brought profit margins up. But the company is going stagnant. Its competition is running rings around apples design language and the competition doesn’t shy away from trying something new.
The current iPhone design is stagnant. There are too many buttons. A Dynamic Island that’s only excuse for existing is they refuse to put a camera under a screen.
Not to mention the fine woven DISASTER that Apple has magically thrown money at and had the issue ….vanish …… The iPhone feels like an old man that keeps trying to reinvent himself. Each year he’s added something new but he looks pretty much the same. New teeth one year, hair dye the other. Maybe Botox last year with a fancy new watch. This year he’s getting hair plugs and a chin lift.
But it’s still efficient, boring a** old dad. Same white Nikes and the members only jacket with the apple lapel pin…..
 
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So we went from minimal buttons to now more extra buttons? Very unnecessary and not a good look at all imo.
 
Seems like it’s just a very slightly upgraded version of the last few generations

Guess I’ll see wait to see what the iPhone 17 ends up like 🤷‍♂️
 
thisMRguy said:
Can Apple get more ecofriendly and stop moving the buttons around so I dont need to fill the landfills with a new phone case everytime i buy a phone. I've thrown away 7-8 over over the years and luckily the iphone 12 case went to a good home.
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Eco friendly?


Heck how about take production out of china if you’re really worried about the virtuous things

Hope that’s not one of the forbidden apple topics here 😂
 
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Remember when they removed all the plastic buttons? Steve said that was the problem with those PDAs: updating a button hardware button and those phones “filling up landfills”
 
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Born Again said:
say again?

MY RESPONSES BELOW!

1. Touchscreen that works with wet hands. - that would be great. what about slimy hands?
2. 120hz VRR 4k DUAL Layer OLED display. - i prefer 240 hz
3. Solid State BATTERY ( they are smaller & hold longer charge) - nuclear battery is better.
We could get 24 hour + battery life.
4. Behind display speakers 🔊 (due to space saved from solid state battery). -why not in front?
5. Resigned with a phone that Flips with no creases ( like Galaxy Flip) -why flip when you can unfold?
6. Large Apple Logo with OLED display for when phone is folded. -glowing apple logo.
7. Fast Charging -FASTER charging
8. Behind display Face ID 3.0 & cameras. - FaceID 4.0 and 4 cameras
9. Zero Bezels. -zero bezels with screens on the sides. so every ANGLE IS A SCREEN!!!!
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3. Forget a solid state battery, how about a nuclear battery?? You never need to charge it, buy it from Apple and when you’re ready to upgrade a year or 2 down the road your battery is still at 99%.

Then they could get rid of the charge port altogether and for ultimate water proofing, no gaps or seams, just a slab of glass with screens on all sides and the hardware inside the glass. Not sure how they’d get the guts inside the glass but they’ve been putting pirate ships inside bottles for a long time so there’s gotta be a way.

www.tomshardware.com

Chinese-developed nuclear battery has a 50-year lifespan — Betavolt BV100 built with Nickel-63 isotope and diamond semiconductor material

The design uses China’s first diamond semiconductor material.
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If the big selling points are 0.2" screen increase and a new video capture button, they're going to be making a mistake going up against AI focused Galaxy and Pixels this year.

The action button was a utter failure of a gimmick that 2% of users even bother with.

iPhone 17 pro is getting under display Face ID but the island won't be shrinking, if anything I image they're going to push more info into the island now it has more space.
 
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Pretty soon the buttons will take up the entire side of the phone like the cameras on the back do...
 
SmugMaverick said:
The action button was a utter failure of a gimmick that 2% of users even bother with.
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Only Apple knows how much it’s getting used, but I’m thinking only ”regular” consumers share system analytics with Apple and that most MR readers go into Privacy and Security and toggle everything off.
 
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lkrupp said:
iPhones already have superior battery life over the competition. Battery technology has been stalled for years worldwide. Lots going on in laboratories but nothing new in the supply chain yet. Li-Ion batteries can only put out so much power for so much time. The improvements have come by developing more power efficient SOCs and the A and M series of Apple Silicon is best of class at that.

So I’m not sure what you want.
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lkrupp said:
iPhones already have superior battery life over the competition. Battery technology has been stalled for years worldwide. Lots going on in laboratories but nothing new in the supply chain yet. Li-Ion batteries can only put out so much power for so much time. The improvements have come by developing more power efficient SOCs and the A and M series of Apple Silicon is best of class at that.

So I’m not sure what you want.
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Improved battery can mean more than “better than the competition” or “better technology”. Notice how battery life improves when the phone is put into low power mode? There’s just so must complexity (and maybe even redundancy?) in today’s iOS compared to yesteryear. Can you imagine the current SOCs running iOS 6? …. But each year Apple introduces a new power-performant SOC whilst adding more demands (features) from the operating system, resulting in marginal battery life improvements. Furthermore, the Apple metrics like 20+ hours music playing time are woefully outdated. Who uses their phone solely like that anymore?
 
Oooh, very minor iterative update. And the YouTube tech influencers will hail it as the best iphone ever even though it’s been basically the same since iPhone 12.
 
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steve09090 said:
There is still the benefits of airdrop, iMessages, continuity etc that can’t be touched outside of the ecosystem. I’m not suggesting you use them, but these are services that don’t require subs, that I find extremely useful that I would miss outside of the ecosystem.

The Apple Ecosystem makes things easy for those who want an easy workflow, or don’t have the technical expertise or desire to move around across several platforms.
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Apple Ecosystem, just avoid to build your business on top of Apple. iCloud Copy&Paste is a nice gimmick I use, but it is not something I really need. iMessage and facetime are disabled.
 
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AndiG said:
Apple Ecosystem, just avoid to build your business on top of Apple. iCloud Copy&Paste is a nice gimmick I use, but it is not something I really need. iMessage and facetime are disabled.
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I think it just goes to show we all have different uses and different preferences. No one persons wants or needs, is the same as another persons wants or needs. There’s hardly a single aspect in the ecosystem I don’t use. Apple Watch, Fitness+, AppleTV+, Airdrop, AirPlay, HomeKit. The list is nearly endless. Between my HomePods, Apple Watch, iPad & iPhone Pros, Apple TV's, Macs. It just works so well together.

It’s hard to impress some people, but even my brother who is solidly Android/Linux/PC and a computer programmer writing code for Destroyer class warships is impressed at the integration Apple has. He'll never use it, but he knows it’s much more than a gimmick and more of a workflow choice.
 
steve09090 said:
I think it just goes to show we all have different uses and different preferences. No one persons wants or needs, is the same as another persons wants or needs. There’s hardly a single aspect in the ecosystem I don’t use. Apple Watch, Fitness+, AppleTV+, Airdrop, AirPlay, HomeKit. The list is nearly endless. Between my HomePods, Apple Watch, iPad & iPhone Pros, Apple TV's, Macs. It just works so well together.

It’s hard to impress some people, but even my brother who is solidly Android/Linux/PC and a computer programmer writing code for Destroyer class warships is impressed at the integration Apple has. He'll never use it, but he knows it’s much more than a gimmick and more of a workflow choice.
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Just imagine being in a situation, where Apple kicks your a**. This happened to me once, but it won‘t happen again. Apple does what Apple likes to do. It cancels hardware, declares superb running hardware vintage. It cancels (at least it announced to) OpenGL, it refused to build Macs with more than 16GB for a looooong time. Finally things like Apple TV used to run on Apple HW only.
Apple watch refuses to share its heart rate monitor with bicycle computers or anything else that doesn‘t implement Apple Gymkit.

Remember me, sooner or later you will face a similar situation. It took me years to get rid of Apple and change my workflows. But now I‘m the situation that I still use Apple and use it the way it was designed - nice little toys. But when it comes to e.g. tracking sports or training like a professional, most professionals with choose a garmin watch over an Apple watch.
 
AndiG said:
Just imagine being in a situation, where Apple kicks your a**. This happened to me once, but it won‘t happen again. Apple does what Apple likes to do. It cancels hardware, declares superb running hardware vintage. It cancels (at least it announced to) OpenGL, it refused to build Macs with more than 16GB for a looooong time. Finally things like Apple TV used to run on Apple HW only.
Apple watch refuses to share its heart rate monitor with bicycle computers or anything else that doesn‘t implement Apple Gymkit.

Remember me, sooner or later you will face a similar situation. It took me years to get rid of Apple and change my workflows. But now I‘m the situation that I still use Apple and use it the way it was designed - nice little toys. But when it comes to e.g. tracking sports or training like a professional, most professionals with choose a garmin watch over an Apple watch.
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A couple of things.

There is nothing there that worries me. I have no desire to try and link my watch to a bike computer and the M1 Mac has ample RAM and storage for my photo workflow. If Apple stops supporting a particular software package, this would be absolutely consistent with any other ones out there. Did you not see what Adobe did to Photoshop when they stopped supporting stand alone versions? And that’s photoshop!

With regard to Professionals using Garmin. I don’t know that that is true. Is there actually any data on this or is just opinion based? It’s not that I don’t believe you, I just haven’t seen the data. Either way. I’m not a pro athlete.
 
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