Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Apple Tweaks Mac OS X Lion UI In Response to Criticism

smitty97 said:
major kernel version

1,2: 1.0 and 2.0
3: 3.0, WfW3.11, NT 3.51
4: 95, 98, NT4
5: 2000, XP
6: Vista
7: Windows 7 (but really 6.1):confused:

So the answer is, "marketing"
Click to expand...

That's not the reason if I remember. They started count at 3 as 1 & 2 were "not real Windows". It was 3, 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7; or something like that. It is kernel 6.1 because they didn't want the incompatibility problems of jumping a large kernel version (ie XP 5.1 to Vista 6.0). But yes, it mostly is marketing.
 
did they copy the old style of sliders?

The idea of having a slider for changing tabs, having the active tab lighter in color than darker, reminds me of the interface of my LED Machines app, where you have to choose between music from the itunes collection or sound for the alarm.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/led-machines-led-flashlight/id384295424?mt=8

alarma.png



Its being there since August. Do you think it was a source of inspiration for them?? ;)
 
Last edited:
ironsienna said:
The idea of having a slider for changing tabs, having the active tab lighter in color than darker, reminds me of the interface of my LED Machines app
Click to expand...

That's interesting. The way you used a capital letter at the start of the sentence reminded me of my new project, available soon etc,,..
 
I have only one phrase

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

That sliding what ever they call it was a no show. Buttons are everywhere in our word, where are the slider stuff. :rolleyes:

To Apple "if its not broken don't fix it!" :cool:
 
ten-oak-druid said:
btw- does anyone know why the current version is named Windows 7? Why 7?
Click to expand...

Are you just kidding?

Oh well I will just answer it just in case.:rolleyes:

Vista = version 6 :(

Windows 7 = version 7 :) No blue screen ever just in case anyone is wondering.

Windows 8 = version 8 :D When it comes out, 2015?
 
Last edited:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3 like Mac OS X; en-gb) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8F190 Safari/6533.18.5)

Aw, the sunken buttons aren't as cool as the slider.
 
I hope they go back to the rounded buttons. The new square ones are too windows-like. Also that new iCal interface looks like crap.
 
MorphingDragon said:
The Graphics design artist in me just had an aneurysm.
Click to expand...

And what is exactly your point? The specific app is not intended to be a part of the OS interface. It is using a more immersed, recreational interface, which makes it fun to use. (Have a look on the review here to see what I mean: http://www.inews24hs.com/2011/03/15/led-machines-–-led-flashlight-for-iphone-4-review/ ) Users enjoy the animations and sound effects. They are using it for the whole experience, not just for the usability of it.

On the other hand, OS interfaces are belonging to a different category. And although there is a trend to make the native OS apps more immersive (take as an example the new iCal. It uses an interface that tries to emulate a real object, a real leather Calendar), users could have given the option to switch between a more abstract UI style. The main reason of using native OS apps (such as ical, mail, etc) is more task centred rather than experience oriented. The ideal would be not using any interface at all and just have a personal assistant do all the hard work for us accepting voice commands. Hopefully we are not far away from something like that though…

It is interesting to notice that there are two different trends for the interface design criteria of the OS apps. Two different schools. One is the school of immersive interface, such as iCal, garageBand for iPad, iMovie for the iPhone with all the eye candy on the movie selection menu. The other is the minimalistic approach: the new Mail interface, the iPhoto, e.t.c. It is as there are two different interface design teams working in parallel, doing their experiments on UI usability, each following a different direction.

A bit out of topic though!! Lets get back to the slider conversation!!
 
Last edited:
bushido said:
more like late 2012. milestone 2 already leaked
Click to expand...

Late 2012??…. I think we finally found what the cause of the doomsday will be…!

And even if they are not the cause, they have to be 2012-end-of-the-world proof safe :D
 
LagunaSol said:
Agreed. I thought we were well past the days when computer applications had to emulate their analog compatriots. Leather, wood, paper, stone = not for computer UIs please! :mad:

Speaking of bad iCal, why is it I can't flip pages in the Calendar app on my iPad by actually flicking the pages (a la iBooks)? Instead I have to tap on arrow buttons? What's up with that???
Click to expand...

I like this; it shows the world is still in motion. "apps shouldn't look like their analog compatriots but they should behave like them. "
 
They could have ..

They could have actually done both ... making the active perspective a sunken button (darker) with a slight raised frame around it and kept the inactive perspective raised (lighter). You could still push or slide depending on your whim.
 
Went into this thread expecting the leather-bound version of iCal to be dropped, was disappointed.
 
allpar said:
Great news. Now if only they'd kept Rosetta, I'd upgrade happily. As it is... I'm going to have to stay stuck in Snow Leopard.
Click to expand...

I totally agree.

I really don't need to purchase new software that is still functional because Apple deems it obsolete.

Keep Rosetta, it can't be very hard to implement.
 
Whatever on these changes, iCal/AB is what's horrible

aeaglex07 said:
I noticed most of the criticism stems from the changes in iCal and Address Book which are both disgusting. Sadly they havent changed yet
Click to expand...

I positively loathe the look of the "new" iCal and Address Book. It looks like a design from the mid 90's. I cannot comprehend how a company who goes for a clean, smooth, modern aesthetic could produce a faux leather interface and think that meshes with that aesthetic. This is something I would expect from Palm or Microsoft. But Apple? I'm amazed by how off the mark this is. :confused:
 
jrtc27 said:
I don't get why everybody hates this UI change - I personally think it looks a lot better and people will not get confused:).
Click to expand...

Do you mean you like the change, or the reverse of the change?

You only have to look at the second screen shot to see why the slider was potentially confusing…

162642-lion_subpane_slider_old_500.jpg


When there are only two options, the inactive option looks a lot like a depressed button.

Apple's always fiddling with this. You have to wonder why they didn't just stick with the old tabbed interface, which is arguably the most instantly recognisable way of switching window views. I guess there's a bit more flexibility in buttons, in terms of their placement… or maybe they're just trying to think different.
 
iluomo said:
I positively loathe the look of the "new" iCal and Address Book. It looks like a design from the mid 90's. I cannot comprehend how a company who goes for a clean, smooth, modern aesthetic could produce a faux leather interface and think that meshes with that aesthetic. This is something I would expect from Palm or Microsoft. But Apple? I'm amazed by how off the mark this is. :confused:
Click to expand...

Where were you through the whole brushed metal saga? I was so glad when that finally died in Leopard!

Don't worry… Apple does its fair share of kitsch. Just look at the bookshelf UI of iBooks. Meanwhile, Microsoft did some pretty slick design on the Windows Phone 7 UI. What's the world coming to, right?

But you know, it's kitsch done pretty well at least, and it's kind of fun if you don't take things too seriously. And thankfully, OS X still looks a damn site better than Windows Aero. Gosh, most backyard Windows skins look better than Aero! We still have a lot to be happy about. :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back