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Then they can direct their anger at the EU for meddling and forcing changes. Those hobbyists were better off before than they are now.
They don’t need to publish on alternative app stores, they can stay on the current terms. This hasn’t made anyone worse off, it just offered more options. And the options will increase further once the EU hits Apple hard for their malicious compliance.
 
They don’t need to publish on alternative app stores, they can stay on the current terms. This hasn’t made anyone worse off, it just offered more options. And the options will increase further once the EU hits Apple hard for their malicious compliance.
You continuing to call it "malicious compliance" doesn't make it so. Not liking how something was done doesn't mean it was malicious. Otherwise, with that bs logic, I would absolutely say the EU mandate is malicious!
 
If the EU says you have to make all wallpapers on the iPhone pink, Apple will do it if it makes them money. It's not about morals (privacy, security etc etc), it's only about the financials.
Correct, for any publicly traded company they have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders, as companies like Apple are not non-profits. It is about privacy and security and money, their approach to privacy and security and design values are what have made them so profitable vs other companies with different values. Apple is able to focus on those values and make money. Vs say Google whose business is primarily advertisement which is at odds with privacy, and thus they also do the values that make them the most money. There is certainly a line that Apple would pull out of EU but since they haven't we're not there.
 
You should keep the pitchfork handy, because this thing is far from over.
You're right. We just need to wait for the EU to "make up" something new to be upset about. Wonder how long that'll take. They're pretty good at making things up and twisting things around to "fit". As evidenced by having to use "gatekeeper" because "monopoly" didn't stick, apparently.
 
You continuing to call it "malicious compliance" doesn't make it so. Not liking how something was done doesn't mean it was malicious. Otherwise, with that bs logic, I would absolutely say the EU mandate is malicious!
Pretending it’s not malicious doesn’t make it not malicious. You’re clearly unfamiliar with the EU’s modus operandi. They always start with softer terms that generally push companies to do the right thing. Sometimes it doesn’t work and stricter regulation follows. Look what happened with the USB charging ports l: their initial requirements were a lot more vague and were maliciously interpreted by Apple who just put a usb port on their charger and not on the actual phone. Unsurprisingly further and stricter regulation followed and Apple had to comply. The same will happen with DMA.
 
There are many examples of software like that. Not everyone does things only for money, and many software efforts are community-driven.
Here is the thing: if you are doing this for fun, there is no reason to change from the current terms and move from the App Store.
 
Pretending it’s not malicious doesn’t make it not malicious. You’re clearly unfamiliar with the EU’s modus operandi. They always start with softer terms that generally push companies to do the right thing. Sometimes it doesn’t work and stricter regulation follows. Look what happened with the USB charging ports l: their initial requirements were a lot more vague and were maliciously interpreted by Apple who just put a usb port on their charger and not on the actual phone. Unsurprisingly further and stricter regulation followed and Apple had to comply. The same will happen with DMA.
Apple has always planned to go to USB-C. Only a fool would think otherwise, and more regulations will not improve the process; it will just worsen and become more confusing to the point that deves will not even make apps.
 
Pretending it’s not malicious doesn’t make it not malicious. You’re clearly unfamiliar with the EU’s modus operandi. They always start with softer terms that generally push companies to do the right thing. Sometimes it doesn’t work and stricter regulation follows. Look what happened with the USB charging ports l: their initial requirements were a lot more vague and were maliciously interpreted by Apple who just put a usb port on their charger and not on the actual phone. Unsurprisingly further and stricter regulation followed and Apple had to comply. The same will happen with DMA.
Maybe if the EU put some effort into getting things right the first time, this wouldn't be an issue. If the EU was somewhat competent, they wouldn't leave so many exploitable loopholes, which would mean there's no room for "malicious" compliance.

Much like my own government, things would be much simpler if they did their jobs right the first time...
 
Apple has always planned to go to USB-C. Only a fool would think otherwise, and more regulations will not improve the process; it will just worsen and become more confusing to the point that deves will not even make apps.
Sure it’s only a coincidence they didn’t do it for years and they only do the same year as it becomes compulsory 😂
 
Maybe if the EU put some effort into getting things right the first time, this wouldn't be an issue. If the EU was somewhat competent, they wouldn't leave so many exploitable loopholes, which would mean there's no room for "malicious" compliance.

Much like my own government, things would be much simpler if they did their jobs right the first time...
This is a deliberate strategy. Regulation should be kept minimal. Further regulation should only be involved if a bad actor like Apple is involved, but doing it when not needed would be a bad practice.
 
There is. Many apps categories are not allowed on the App Store.
So if you think you have an excellent app that isn't allowed to do it, and also just because you are doing an open source or community project, there is nothing to say you can't cover your cost by charging a small fee. There is this myth that open-source or nonprofit software has to be free.
 
Sure it’s only a coincidence they didn’t do it for years and they only do the same year as it becomes compulsory 😂
Except they didn't. The deadline is the end of 2024 (you know...THIS year. Not last year). iPhone 15 could've come out with Lightning last fall and Apple would NOT have been in violation of the legislation.

Get your facts straight, because making things up like this now brings your past posts on this thread into question...

EDIT: Interesting that you have chosen not to address the facts correcting your false claim...
 
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So if you think you have an excellent app that isn't allowed to do it, and also just because you are doing an open source or community project, there is nothing to say you can't cover your cost by charging a small fee. There is this myth that open-source or nonprofit software has to be free.
Sure they can charge a small fee if they want to do so. And they can also protest and lobby until the eu does the right thing and outlaws Apple’s behaviour. More than one strategy can be pursued at the same time.
 
There is a point where a company can decide the regulatory framework imposed by the state is just too restrictive, and leaves.

We see it all the time in the US, when a company leaves one state for a “business-friendly” state.

I don’t think we’re close to this with Apple and the EU, but if the EU fines Apple for their App Store then fines them for things like FaceTime or iMessage being closed, or the phones not being user friendly, or some other reason… and it becomes tens of billions of euros or more, Apple may just throw up their hands and say “we’re done here”.
 
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