Maybe the EU should have written the law in such a way that wouldn't have left room for this. If they did their jobs right the first time, it wouldn't have been a problem.
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In your example, by company "leaving" you mean the company moves their headquarters. The company rarely if ever actually stops doing business in the state they "left".
Maybe that's exactly what EU did? Apple is offering their interpretation just like they did with Spotify case. Just like with the Spotify case, EU may fine Apple and explain them that their interpretation is wrong.
It still costs the losing state millions in tax revenue when large companies leave.
You don’t think Apple pulling workers out of the EU wouldn’t send a message?
EDIT: we’re nowhere close to this happening. This is just a thought experiment.
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The revenue from the EU is much higher than the worldwide revenue from the App Store, including all fees and ads. Apple is kicking and screaming to delay these changes and get some more profit, but eventually Apple will comply.
Apple could do it. But how should they react, when the next country enacts similar laws? Leave that market as well? I think Japan is looking very closely at what is happening with the DMA. Apple has a much more dominanat position in the Japanese smartphone market (50%), so there's even more reason for the government to look after local companies.
Google has recently drawn a lot of ire from the Indian government for kicking out a dozen of popular apps from the Play Store. I would not be suprised if they too take a deeper look into app store marketplaces.
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imagine if apple took 50 cents every time you downloaded an app from the internet on mac 😂
I fail to see how this is even posited as a parallel. When these desktop OS systems were released, was digital distribution even a conceivable path? Are these features, or the nature of how distribution had to be handled? In the years since digital distribution has become the *only* method, have they tried to reel it in and do the same things? Those answers are no, no, yes. They’ve spent decades course correcting these very obvious holes to their security. This law has nothing to do with you, a consumer, and instead is trying to pick winners in the corporate world - written, as we’ve seen from court documents, with two companies hands on the pen.
What message though? I mean, Apple has a whole lot more to lose money wise than the EU does. That would truly be cutting their nose off to spite their face. I mean, they’re kind of doing that anyway with their malicious compliance, but still.
Not necessarily. Apple pulled out of Russia. There's no Apple employees in Russia anymore. You can, through an official distributor, buy an iPhone, however.
My parents have no idea what a Web Browser is. There is no chance they are going to be able to choose Safari from the list of possibilities. So they're going to inadvertently download some random browser, have a bad user experience, or be tracked, or possibly worse.
After getting new iPhone 15 first thing had to do was go out and buy new cables and chargers. Whilst figuring out which lightning stuff still needed to keep for other purposes. Total Environmental mess. And every night when I plug in that USBC (and also every time I get into the car) am reminded how much more fiddly it is than the lightning (which accepted a wider range of angles). Yeah USBC has some advantages but the EU should stay out of product design and concentrate on fixing themselves. Which actually means firing themselves. We don't need more regulation.
After getting new iPhone 15 first thing had to do was go out and buy new cables and chargers. Whilst figuring out which lightning stuff still needed to keep for other purposes. Total Environmental mess. And every night when I plug in that USBC (and also every time I get into the car) am reminded how much more fiddly it is than the lightning (which accepted a wider range of angles). Yeah USBC has some advantages but the EU should stay out of product design and concentrate on fixing themselves. Which actually means firing themselves. We don't need more regulation.
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It's required for products released after Jan 1, 2025. Apple could have waited until iPhone 17.
They have been transitioning to USB-C for years now. First Macs, then iPads and now iPhones. Lightning is too slow for today's requirements and wouldn't have made sense keeping.
The only reason apple is doing this petty thing is because of the revenue stream that appstore brings them... as simple as that...
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I think Apple knows this is less than the bare minimum or what constitutes "compliance". They are slow playing until the EU forces full sideloading, which I fully expect to happen after Apple's proposal.
Did you forget the /s flag? Because th Microsoft Store is a thing... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Store
I don’t see any malicious compliance here. I see EU is the one who is a malicious bully to Apple only. Your disagreement with me is kindly accepted. No need for further reply, this thread is uselessly long enough.
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