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Great article. ESP like the quote "everything in life is built upon what came before it. If you look hard enough, nothing is original, and everything has been inspired by something else."

Yes it was a good read. I got really fed up of listening to all the whiners here... x2 - iOS and Mac Pro - I wonder how people ever get anything done, sitting on forums all day complaining - I mean, how can they know how good or bad something is, if all their time is on forums, instead of using things in the real world in REAL LIFE?
 
A question on the Keynote

So, I had a question and I didn't know where to post it so I put it here. Mods, please redirect if I screwed up. Thank you :)

Anyways, did anyone notice the strange looking frame for the iOS7 demos on the screen during the keynote? It looked like a very thin bezeled iPhone with no Home Button. Maybe I'm ignorant of what the Dev Tools in the iPhone dev kit look like, but I was just curious...
 
lol... with a cup of coffee that looks like that, I'd have guessed you were encouraging him to leave :D :p

Haha!! :D

No, I would actually like him to stay; I'm not the kind to force people, but yes - encouraging is always a good thing to do :)
 
I care about those features. That's why I have a choice.

1% of users actually use the features demo'd today? I don't have percentages but based on Apple's stock falling today and all the reviews I've read as well as Apple faithful user comments I think you may be underestimating what the "average" user is in 2013.

Multitasking, widgets and other crap like that are why Apple who revolutionized the mobile market in 2007 with something new but they stopped giving users what they want and lack "crap" like that.

But be consoled. You have another 4" inch retina screen to look forward to with an iOS that is still at least a year behind the competition.

Smart move would have been to short AAPL before the close of the market today in my opinion and that's what I did.

It's a long time until the Fall when it does get released and the rest of the market is just going to keep pushing the envelope.

At least you will know by next May what iOS will look like. All of the "crap" features that are introduced on competitors OS's will be copied by Apple.

I hope Jony Ive keeps ups with the tech blogs (I'm guessing he does by the copy that was shown today) because that's what you have to iLook forward to.

Today was a fail for Apple and mostly for Ive because there was nothing but a Xerox copy of every mobile device on the market today and if Jony Ive is the future for Apple. Welcome to 1984.

Be smart and short AAPL because you have a long summer and fall before anything gets released.

Obviously I made it clear I am not a fan. If you need multitasking on a phone please tell me why? What are you running in the background that my Mom wants to use?

Also, Apple just copied, and that is likely true. Did they copy the parralax feature? I cannot get an answer to that.
 
So... what's new?

Ha! Seriously! The new control thing...will I be able to choose which type of setting to put on there like I can with sbsettings or will it be limited? Will it come with "quick notes" like sbsettings? And does it come with the user agent faker toggle like sbsettings?
 
Terrible interface, looks sterile and lacks the Apple vibe.
I've tried to like it but just don't. A step backwards towards mediocrity.
Jobs must be spinning in his grave at how Apple has been handled since he left us.
 
I like the update except the ultra white theme. If there was a darker theme it would be great.
Don't like the auto update apps though. Some updated apps are released broken or remove functionality. I prefer a choice. I usually wait for reviews of an app to see if it still works before updating.
 
Also, Apple just copied, and that is likely true. Did they copy the parralax feature? I cannot get an answer to that.

Already answered when I predicted a parallax background in this post the night before WWDC.

It was about this 2009 3D demo from The Amazing Tribe (who were bought by Blackberry to work on their OS)...


There's probably more, but I didn't have time to look.
 
Already answered when I predicted a parallax background in this post the night before WWDC.

It was about this 2009 3D demo from The Amazing Tribe (who were bought by Blackberry to work on their OS)...


There's also a parallax live wallpaper for Android here in the Play Market. Uses any background image. Looks best on a tablet. Video below:


And here's another one, called GyroSpace 3D, with (I think) its own dedicated background:


There's probably more, but I didn't have time to look.

I find it interesting (do you?) that while skeuomorphisms are now "shunned" by Apple - that "3D" gimmicky views aren't.

I still think it looks fun/cool/interesting. I just find it interesting. I never had a problem with skeuomorphisms though. I can appreciate both a clean design but also ones that have some realism.
 
I find it interesting (do you?) that while skeuomorphisms are now "shunned" by Apple - that "3D" gimmicky views aren't.

Haven't had a chance to try iOS 7 yet, but isn't it just a way to emphasize the way the UI is built up in iOS7, with the different layers?

With iOS 6, different new layers appeared over and under the basic layer of the displayed content, without any order. Notification center was on top of the homescreen, multitasking bar under the homescreen layer.

With iOS 7, everything has a certain layer, with the wallpaper at the bottom, the icons floating over the wallpaper and things like control center on top.

The parallax effect is probably meant to make this clearer.


And i dunno if it has been brought up:

While there have been claims of Apple copying from Android or WebOS - isn't the new way to display multitasking - WebOS users refer to it as "Cards" - not just the same way that tab management in Safari is handled on the iPhone applied to apps instead of tabs?

And that feature, with that interface, was shown during the presentation of the original iPhone!
 
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Haven't had a chance to try iOS 7 yet, but isn't it just a way to emphasize the way the UI is built up in iOS7, with the different layers?

With iOS 6, different new layers appeared over and under the basic layer of the displayed content, without any order. Notification center was on top of the homescreen, multitasking bar under the homescreen layer.

With iOS 7, everything has a certain layer, with the wallpaper at the bottom, the icons floating over the wallpaper and things like control center on top.

The parallax effect is probably meant to make this clearer.

I haven't tried it either - so I don't know. And I do hope/expect it to be subtle. If it's like one of the videos posted by kdarling - then again - I question the "3d" effect as being the right way to go (if that makes sense)
 
I have to say I absolutely love the look of iOS7. It looks like something that Apple would design, it looks truly modern and fresh. That's about where my praise stops though. It is still lagging behind what Android is offering at the moment, and other than the look, iOS still is a bit stale as far as functionality is concerned.

I just now ordered a Galaxy S4. Sad, as this will be my first non-iOS daily driver phone in quite a long while. All of my friends love their Galaxy and Nexus devices, and I love my Nexus 10, so I'll give it a test run.
 
Face Palm

I have no problem with the translucency. I think many of the new features hold lots of promise. I'm fine with the new control center, honestly should have been there years ago but I'm not complaining over a few extra seconds to navigate to bluetooth or wireless controls. I'm overall content with the new design.........however..........

Those icons look like the result of a one night stand involving an iPhone, a Windows Phone, a box of Crayola Crayons, Abenthe and Ecstasy. <begin rant> why in holy ******* would make the game center icon look like blobs of color? What the **** do blobs of color have to do with people playing mobile phone games with each other? Don't get me started on that safari icon. Jesus H ****. These icons have more bright green and off color gradients in them than a 1998 microsoft word clip art collection. Seeing these new app icons gave me an idea for a new drinking game. Who can stare at these icons the longest without punching a small child in the face...loser chugs a Four Loko..and has to call the parent of the small child.</end rant>
 
Haven't had a chance to try iOS 7 yet, but isn't it just a way to emphasize the way the UI is built up in iOS7, with the different layers?

That's the way most UIs are. However, most hide it from the user.

Showing the layers makes me think that a developer demo'd it as a debug tool to a boss, and wham! it got included ;)

Btw, HTC also used the layer trick in their tablet homescreens. As you rotated through each home page, you'd see the various text label or clock or weather cloud layers go past in 3D.

While there have been claims of Apple copying from Android or WebOS - isn't the new way to display multitasking - WebOS users refer to it as "Cards" - not just the same way that tab management in Safari is handled on the iPhone applied to apps instead of tabs?

The idea of showing miniatures of active windows goes back a very long time, probably at least to the early 1990s.

So neither Apple nor Palm were first. But Palm did such a beautiful job of making it fun to use. For example, swiping up to kill the app. (Safari has close buttons instead.)

If only Palm hadn't done an exclusive with Sprint at first, and if they only made a big screened phone like everyone asked, and if they had not wasted their advertising budget on weird ads... well, who knows :)
 
Ha! Seriously! The new control thing...will I be able to choose which type of setting to put on there like I can with sbsettings or will it be limited? Will it come with "quick notes" like sbsettings? And does it come with the user agent faker toggle like sbsettings?

No, no, and no.

The only thing you can configure for Control Center is whether it is accessible from the lock screen or not. That is it.


Michael
 
The idea of showing miniatures of active windows goes back a very long time, probably at least to the early 1990s.

I don't want to say that Apple was the first to use something like that, I just wanted to argue that Android definitely wasn't first, because Apple had something similar almost two years before Android was released.
 
Innovation and new, fresh ideas drive change. What would you prefer - to be stuck in the past and never have anything new? Would you wear the same trousers and shirt for six years? seriously?

Let's be totally frank - it's not as if Apple have refreshed the UI every year for six years; this is the first AND ONLY major UI/UX overhaul since 2007. Consider if you will, what kind of company Apple is; a DESIGN company - it is their business to make stunning, controversial designs, and you are not being forced to like them OR to buy them, but look at it logically - it's not like they've made the icons triangular and arranged them in a ring on the screen - the layout is the same, but with some useful improvements to functionality and a refreshing look. Yes, I loved the old iOS interface, but I also love the new one a lot. Just as in personal relationships, love doesn't always come immediately - you need to be patient and have fun being together, learning all the little quirks and nuances, the subtle details and intricacies... and NONE of that is even close to happening yet, as only a TINY fraction of the iPhone user base has iOS 7 installed yet, and even they have *Beta* versions which are naturally going to be buggy and crashy, slow at times and unresponsive, so anyone who has not got the full and final release on a physical device in their hands and used it daily for two months at least, who complains and says "I hate it", is quite frankly unbelievably short-sighted and rash, to say the least.

Give it time - new shoes feel tight and restrictive until you have grown into them, too! :)
 
I like all of these android comments. Android wouldn't exist without the iPhone. Everyone would still be using a stylus with there "smartphone..."

Anyway, iOS 7 "cards" idea is proper form. iOS6 is the mess. Look at the home screen; what are they trying to prove with the OSX style dock? That screws any idea of layering effect on the home screen...

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A good read...

http://frankchimero.com/blog/2013/06/generosity-of-perspective/
 
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